I'm assuming their relationship will take a larger step now that she's been forced to recognize that this isn't just a game anymore and that real people aren't necessarily like their game versions. I'm looking forward to how that change in perception affects her decisions from now on.

Actually I think that's slightly off.
I don't think that "the real people aren't like their game versions" necessarily, I think it's more a case of "a game can only show you so much of a character and the real them have sides she couldn't see through the game's medium."

Basically, less "these are different people" and more "they all have depths and nuances to them that the game didn't convey."

I think the real "message" she learned was that nothing and no one is as simple as she thought it/they was/were just because she was familiar with the game versions, and she needs to be more open to the idea of things deviating from her expectations.

Finally we're getting somewhere!

she robbed him of the chance to take responsibility and fix things like a proper king should.

This part here is what I believe I'm taking issue with in your logic, because it hinges on the assumption that the prince truly believes and accepts that Serina was injured and just so happened to perform a medical miracle out of nowhere, in order for it to then make any sense that his outburst was solely because of being denied the ability to "fix his mistake."

I don't believe that he believes that in the moment, and consequently it makes no sense in my mind to assume that his anger isn't completely genuine because he really does believe that Serina was trying to scam him into being in her debt; he's part of the royal family, that stuff probably does happen to him every day.

That's not to say that his confidence issues don't go into his angry outburst, but IMO they're clearly not the cause for it and therefor doesn't reflect them.

My read of him at this point is that he's ultimately well intentioned but rash, a tad ignorant and has trouble dealing with things that are completely foreign to him.

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Ah yes, the classic "I don't have any proper argument so I'll just say you're wrong and pretend that arguing is beneath me." method! The hallmark of people stuck in their ways and refusing to even consider the notion of anything else.

No, I'm just not gonna put the cart before the horse and argue about his actions afterwards if we can't even agree on the basic premise of the incident. What's the point? Your entire defense is predicated on him being scared for his life. But he wasn't, as the author has made clear repeatedly. I have quoted the manga and provided images to prove point and you have whined about misandry that doesn't exist when nobody gave Lord Sil shit for being hostile to Almelia in earlier chapters.

You have not proven a point, you have proven that the previous incident went through his mind at the time and motivated his actions.

That does not in any way shape or form contradict my take on the situation; that he panicked and did the first thing that he thought to do without thinking it through.

Even then, in the interest of engaging with you honestly on this and assuming you've not just dug your heels in, whether he did truly panic or not actually doesn't change my ultimate point that he explicitly acknowledges that he screwed up and will both apologize and make amends for it to the best of his abilities.

If he was truly the ego-monster you accuse him of being, he wouldn't have acknowledged his mistake, wouldn't have decided to apologize when he really isn't under any real pressure to do so and he most certainly would not have "lowered" himself to work on the amends personally rather than have his serving staff just whip something up for him like literally any other noble would have.

He messed up, acknowledged his mistake and has objectively gone farther than what he could've gotten away with and still, you people are somehow seeing this as a negative indicator of his characters.

That is why I call you misandrist, because I can think of no other motivation to the laughable amounts of hate and black-and-white shade being thrown at him for actually having reacted very reasonably to his circumstances.

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No, he didn't have a life or death panic, he literally flashed back to when he was humiliated, which by the way, was not a life or death situation. As in, he was remembering the time he looked incompetent next to Almelia. Do you just literally not look at the pictures the author drew? Like I don't understand how you can miss this literal fact.

https://i.imgur.com/wtEXBti.jpeg

Like come on he literally was thinking about Almelia killing that cockatrice right there lmao. Why would he be thinking about that time she made him feel like he has a smol pp if it wasn't about his ego? Like seriously the author went and made it expressedly clear that he had no reason to react the way he did and you're still trying to do mental gymnastics to make excuses about how he's just a scawed poor widdle boy.

That honestly goes for the rest of the nonsense you wrote anyway. Do you think the author had Almelia point out that he didn't care to check up on the person he mortally injured for 10 days for fun? That his offhand comment "let me handle it i can handle it myself" to the steward was just a throwaway comment? Or perhaps the author is trying to indicate something!!!!

Ffs media literacy is dead.

You're the one making mental gymnastics to justify a position of outrageous bigotry and judgment lol.
You honestly arguing that getting attacked by a giant monster is not a high-pressure situation provoking a reaction you haven't had time to think through just because said reaction had previous events build into it.

That honestly goes for the rest of the nonsense you wrote anyway. Do you think the author had Almelia point out that he didn't care to check up on the person he mortally injured for 10 days for fun? That his offhand comment "let me handle it i can handle it myself" to the steward was just a throwaway comment? Or perhaps the author is trying to indicate something!!!!

Oh look, a point we can agree on! I do agree that the author was trying to show something actually, it's just completely the opposite of what you're thinking.
You think it somehow shows him as being condescending. (Somehow??)
I think it shows he's actually being genuine about the effort since, you know, he's a literal prince who doesn't need to do anything but he's doing this personally anyway even when his servants themselves are arguing he doesn't have to.

I don't see any point in addressing anything else you wrote when you cannot accept the very basic facts of what occurred.

Ah yes, the classic "I don't have any proper argument so I'll just say you're wrong and pretend that arguing is beneath me." method! The hallmark of people stuck in their ways and refusing to even consider the notion of anything else.

Whatever I will ignore that as well as accept the concession from you then. I can tell you don't even know the origin of 'misandry' or by who started to spread it. I don't even know who you are fighting for, a dumbass prince in a yuri manga or for yourself. If it's for yourself, then buddy, I don't care that much about you to even attack you no matter your gender, go take a walk.

Oh look, another one right there! Must be in season.

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So much misandry in here, sheesh

This has to be a joke. Misandry? Did you really read any of these comments or is the prince's tendency to overreact and misread situations shared? I'm really not sure how we're not getting what the author is communicating. This chapter doubled down to make things even clearer, even more blunt, yet still? He has major character flaws, and they were the focus of these two chapters.

The fact that you think this chapter made his character less nuanced is absolutely wild to me.

Man sees a monster attacking and panic-attacks it, accidentally injuring a bystander in the process.
Man acknowledges that he screwed up and pledges to apologize and make amends however he can.
Man (rationally) thinks he's been scammed when the victim is suddenly magically healed of an injury that is widely known for a fact to be impossible to recover from and (rationally but incorrectly) assumes it must have been a ploy to garner influence over his family, the ROYAL family.

"Wow he's such a toxic person!"

Are you serious?

Trying to pretend misandry isn't real.
lol

Can you think of examples where so called misandry has shaped laws, institutions, or systemic practices in a way that disadvantages men? Do not include the ones that are born from patriarchal ideals and toxic masculinity, but purely from believing men are less than women. I am gonna wait.

And what part of "misandry" says that it has to be part of a system of government in order to be misandry?

Are you just dumb?
Do you not understand the basic concept of "If you assume a thing about someone exclusively because of their gender status as a man, not because there are any facts supporting the assumption, that is misandry."?

friend, i know you think you're rolling with the punches but you're actually just making yourself look more foolish. maybe take a minute to reflect why everyone is disagreeing with you. here's a hint, it has nothing to do with the specific details of the characters' actions in this fantasy story.

It doesn't matter how many people shout that 1+1=3 it's still not true.

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As I already discussed and was emphasized by the maid this chapter, no he was not in a life or death situation, his guards had it under control, not to mention Almelia. You do not start thinking about your wounded pride like he did if you are about to die, you think about your impending death. His disproportionate response was all about proving himself strong and capable.

I didn't say he was in a life-or-death situation, I said he had a life-or-death panic, which is not the same thing.
He saw a giant monster show up out of nowhere right in front of him and had a perfectly normal fight-response to a perceived threat against his person and the people around him.

Yes it resulted in disaster and yes it wasn't a good solution, but spur-of-the-moment panic reactions seldom are.
Furthermore, the story does explicitly state and show that he acknowledges his mistake and fully intended to both apologize and make amends in whatever way he could, to such an extent that he wouldn't even allow his servants to take over the responsibility of arranging it even when requested to do so by said serving staff.

The fact that you lot somehow are under the delusion that this is in any way indicative of deep callousness and narcisissm on his part is absolutely wild.

Not out of a sense of guilt or compassion. Because in his words, he is capable of "clearing up the mistakes he caused." Since he was surprised by the regrowth, he evidently not once bothered to actually have someone tell him about Serina's condition and how she's doing given that she had her arm obliterated by him.

This is literally just you leaping to random assumptions to validate your irrational judgment.
You don't know if he felt any guilt, and the mere fact that he is apologizing and working on the compensation personally despite being a literal prince who could've just not bothered and been just fine is evidence to the exact opposite of what you're supposing; he clearly does understand that he messed up and does sincerely feel a need to make genuine amends.

You can't simply "assume" he doesn't care just because he hasn't asked about the specifics of her health in a few days, he's a literal prince ffs, he's got shit to do and he already knows she lost an arm and has no reason to think anything about that has or would change.

You'd think her mental and physical condition would be on his mind, but it wasn't. (probably because he didnt give a fuck, but what do I know.) So once again, it's about his ego - which was why he wanted the steward to not get involved or assist him, so he can prove himself strong and capable.

This is literally just more assumption bullshit.

So instead of being happy that nobody got maimed, he assumed he was fooled by, in your words, a ploy. Which in his own words "makes a fool out of [him]," indicating that his rage is the direct result of looking neither strong nor capable.

There is no choice being made in this situation lol, he lives in a medieval society that, while yes it has magic, it's well known and established that regrowing limbs is simply not possible.

Therefor, when someone he believes he has maimed by mistake shows up with their limb magically back, how would it in any way make sense to assume she just happened to randomly performed a medical miracle?

How does it NOT make perfect sense to instead assume something much more rational and possible?
For instance, that the person was clearly never actually injured in the first place, since healing said injury should be medically impossible. But why would they then have lied about being injured? Oh right, he's a crown prince of the f***king kingdom who probably gets people trying to scam their way into the royal family's influence on the daily.

His assumption makes complete and utter sense from his perspective, it just so happens to not be true, and does not in any way actually indicate any undue ego beyond what would be required to hold his station in the monarchy.

He is garbage. And you are making excuses for him when it is literally all about his ego to prove himself strong and capable. Is it a human response? Oh yes, I've met many people like him in the past. They're the type of scumbags that bludgeon their wife to death with a golf trophy over their feelings.

More baseless assumptions of malicious intent completely disregarding any and all context and the specifics of the situation. I'm beginning to see a pattern here.

Misandry
lol

Trying to pretend misandry isn't real.
lol

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Misandry isn't real.

And like that, you've invalidated everything you could possibly have to say about the matter.

Seriously, how do people say things this crazy and not hear it themselves?

So much misandry in here, sheesh.

The prince attacked a monster in a moment of life-and-death panic and someone got hurt by accident, a perfectly human reaction, and then he went out of his way to apologize and try to make up for what he caused.

He only got angry with Serina because he assumed the injury must have been staged or something as a ploy to get the royal family indebted to her since no one can regrow limbs, he made a perfectly logical deduction that simply happens to be wrong in this particular case.

Jesus, some people here are so quick to cry "garbage" at male characters just for being male and making mistakes.

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H-Holy crap Raimu is stacked!
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/im_the_only_one_for_miyaji_miyuki_ch05#17

First chapter had be iffy because it felt very unfocused but 2 and 3 have been great fun and digestible.

For instance, why the (still unseen) king has gone out of his way to order by royal decree that the Black Knight has to marry someone.

That's an incredibly unusual and suspicious decree, certainly not something a ruler would ever do outside of extreme- or specific circumstances, and strongly suggests that either the King has a personal relationship to Frost or she is of truly immense importance.

See this page: https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/i_want_to_make_black_knight_fall_in_love_with_me_ch02#19

Basically the king didn't want the high ranking noble house (and the associated territory) to go without an heir. How this matters when Frost was able to succeed the previous Black Knight is unclear.

That's not really a sufficient explanation imo.
I don't think I'm getting across just how outrageous it is for a king to have ordered the "patriarch" of a seemingly unrelated noble house to get married by royal decree no matter what. Not married to anyone in particular, just married.

It doesn't matter to a king who rules any particular territory and a noble house's succession prospects are none of their concern. Whether a noble house goes extinct or gets replaced by another doesn't matter to a ruler unless it's either their house, a house they care about for personal reasons or a house of immediately vital importance either to the royal family or the kingdom.

IE: Either Frost is objectively incredibly important to the kingdom or they have some kind of relationship with the royal family.

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That sounds metal, but I do not think that it's very plausible, for two reasons: first, the dragon was said to have been red, not black. I know it sounds somewhat silly, but color-coding is traditionally important in henshin plots. Secondly, while this page clearly shows that the BK armor corrupts its wearer in some way, it's quite a leap from there to turning into dragons. If the previous BK turned into that dragon from wearing the armor, I do not see a plausible sequence of events of how that armor ended up with Frost. IMO it still makes much more sense that the prev. BK was defeated by the dragon (possibly weakened by the corruption), and Frost took up her armor in her honor. She did not have to kill her mentor with her own hands to be traumatized by her sudden and gruesome death.

None of that is much of a narrative obstacle imo, nor is it particularly contradictory to my proposed theory.
Given that Frost summons her armor and it appears bonded to her beyond being simply something she wears, it's not unlikely it can change/is defined by the wearer to some extent, possibly even being a literal manifestation of the wearer in some way. (Curse? Hereditary power? A seal against great evil passing from vessel to vessel?)

Her predecessor's armor may simply have looked different from hers, such as incorporating more red into the design, because she was a different person; or it may have even been a different armor "set" altogether and each "Black Knight" manifests their own design.

Furthermore, it's also possible that turning into a dragon made it more red to be further representative of the wearer having lost control and becoming "corrupted" by literally shifting the color scheme, and her actual armor wasn't as red as the dragon.

Your other "points" are indirectly already explained with the above possibilities.

Actually, the more I think about it, the more I'm starting to think I might be onto something because pieces fall into place quite nicely. For instance, why the (still unseen) king has gone out of his way to order by royal decree that the Black Knight has to marry someone.

That's an incredibly unusual and suspicious decree, certainly not something a ruler would ever do outside of extreme- or specific circumstances, and strongly suggests that either the King has a personal relationship to Frost or she is of truly immense importance.

Like, for instance, being a Barrier Maiden holding off an evil force and thus inherently requiring an eventual successor... for example an offspring?

Calling it now: Frost is a Jinnchuriki.

Can we just appreciate for a moment how handsome the two leads look in casual clothes in this chapter? Also, the new pairing (Violet x Shion?) are very easy on the eye, too. I am assuming they rep the Graat company?

My guess is that the previous Black Knight was the woman whom Frost keeps seeing in her flashbacks. Frost must have picked up her armor after her death, which explains why she is so clumsy in using it.

My theory is that the "dragon" that attacked is the previous black knight and that's why the "Black Knights" are special compared to other knights. They have a unique power (The armor?) but it comes at the risk(?) of losing control and turning into a dragon and that's what happened to the last one. It's also why Frost is so closed off, because she had to fight (and kill?) her predecessor whom she cared about, and she's worried about getting close to anyone in case she ever transforms herself.

Fujiyama is truly peak girl failure and needs to be protected!

I can't read runes, is she exactly 2 meters?

Also, they are exactly the perfect height difference that Clarice could literally use Frost as a bed and her enormous chest as pillows.

Protag has big Kazuma energy only without the insufferable attitude, I love it!
Speaking of lovely things, BIG MUSCLE MOMMY KNIGHT, YES PLEASE.

I love that Frost is actually gigantic. Even in stories where the protag and love interest have a size difference it's typically because one is excessively short, but protag here is normal height and Frost is just a MOUNTAIN of a woman.

This "kyousuki" stuff sounds more fucked up than reality TV usually is. Teenagers?! I guess in a country where the "idol" garbage is acceptable I shouldn't be surprised, but still ...

...What's wrong with teenagers dating teenagers?

Wingman is winging it in more ways than one I see!

Should this be tagged “age gap”?

Not unless it turns yuri at some point.

Oh god. Nothing would ruin this more for me.

She's fucking TEN YEARS OLD. The other one is fucking THIRTY. That would be so fucking disgusting. Just gross.

Well you can thank the editor for that one because originally the Author wanted her to be a teenager which is still weird but still better than loli

I mean, as of right now, barring any future unknown changes, her being an impressionable young kid actually makes story more enjoyable.

It's also really the only thing keeping the basic plot together since an older person would've absolutely seen through Fujiyama's laughably obvious bullshit. Her naivete is literally a plot point that's much easier to accept thanks to her age.

Moving on:
New girl once again proving her chest bindings are the fabled chest bindings of legend, capable of binding even the most badonka of donkas!
Fujiyama tripping trying to get between them, she really is the ultimate adorable girl failure isn't she?

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I would not have guessed this was yuri if it wasn't for the tag. I didn't see a hint of attraction between the two, even while they were bathing.

I'm only worried that if they started anything that they would be burned at the stake for being lesbians, or unmarried, or literate.

I’d honestly be more worried about the fact that the witch lady almost certainly isn’t Christian. You could get away with a lot in the Middle Ages depending on where you lived and who you’re local leaders were, but religious differences? That was the kind of thing that got your house burned down by an angry mob. Especially during the plague, when people were especially desperate to find a scapegoat to punish for their suffering.

Also, I’m still not sure where the idea that it was illegal for medieval women to be literate came from. Nuns and nobles were oftentimes literate, and as far as I know there were never any laws prohibiting the lowborn people of either sex from learning how to read, even if it was uncommon. I don’t think there were ever any laws about women being unmarried either (although they did have fewer rights than even their married counterparts). Lesbianism, on the other hand… yeah, that could be an issue, but hey, maybe the lord in this story is cool with that kind of thing.

I doubt lesbianism would be held as an issue considering several other factors shown just in chapter 1 alone.
Firstly, the local Lord is so remarkably friendly and open that he's apparently out and about chatting with random commoners in town, even regional outsiders, and encouraging open-mindedness towards the supernatural.

If you've ever read a single page of medieval history, you'll know that's comically unrealistic for a medieval nobleman to even consider doing like this; showing that he's clearly (to the point of caricature) an idealized modern image of a "good nobleman" with few of the prejudices, fears or restrictions that a real one would've had. He's clearly there to smooth over some of the rougher parts of medieval society that the story doesn't want to deal with, at least yet. (That's not criticism mind you, I don't mind it, I'm just pointing it out)

Secondly, seeing as witches were believed to literally copulate with Satan and that all magic was derived from his favour, the fact alone that the locals and Lord are explicitly accepting of the "witch" despite presumably being faithful Christians and honestly believing her to be a witch already kinda renders lesbianism inconsequential by comparison. Being a lesbian at that point would be orders of magnitude less heretical, like accepting someone committing murder but then getting upset about jaywalking.

Holy crap, a HISTORICALLY ACCURATE isekai that actually teaches you real things about medieval europe!?

-And so, they were both tops!

A cute tomboy hothead in jeans, chest bindings and a leather jacket?
IS IT MY BIRTHDAY ALREADY!?

(Also those chest bindings are putting in WORK.)

they very much THINK is toxic

what

I don't see the confusion.
They think she was knowingly three-timing them behind each others' backs, which most people will agree is a very bad thing to do and quite toxic. She wasn't, but they think she was, that is their POV of the situation. The entire premise of the plot so far is that she fails to clarify this so disastrously over-the-top that it's supposed to be funny.

Not sure if I like how MC handled the situation, but grumpy girl is HOT so I'm in.
Seriously, the hair over one eye and the prominent fangly teeth, then the blush...

The fact that the MC is handling things poorly (an understatement tbh) could've been narratively fine, but the real issue imo is how all of her love interests are essentially (unintentionally) charmed into engaging in a relationship that they very much THINK is toxic but they're convinced to be fine with it because they "love her" enough to ignore the huge red flags.

Usually you want to make relationships with a start like this one work by clarifying that the red flags were imagined or a misunderstanding, but so far this story seems to be running on the premise that the girls still believe the red flags to be true and just choose to ignore them out of blind faith, which is absolutely NOT a healthy way to approach relationships.

This is literally how plenty of real abusive relationships start, ignoring someone's red flags until you're too emotionally attached to leave even after they become explicit and destructive. They're essentially just getting lucky the MC isn't actually a scumbag and won't actually take advantage of them knowingly.