You can twist and turn it every way you want with those high-sounding phrases, but outing someone to their immediate family without their knowledge and consent is never justified, and she is not that young of a kid for the label to shield her.

Actually, when being in a high-drama melodrama drama drama melodrama, it is always 100% justified and the superior action over any other action you could possibly take.

This is not a realistic story with realistic characters. It's a faux incest slightly rapy story from chapter 1, ripe with tropes, melodrama, and plot twists straight from a mexican telenovela, just more gay.
This is also not a story attempting to give life advice to people. If THIS is what offends your sensibilities in citrus, I really don't know what to say.

Other than "You should have bailed 38 chapters ago"

In real life, you shouldn't out people. You also shouldn't forcefully push people down and kiss them.

Screw the dad though. He can scram.

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I really disagree with this. It felt more like Hana steamrolled into Machi's life like this. Hana might be the one foolishly building this fantasy and just dragging Machi along with her during a time when Machi is dealing with something big. The whole premise of Hana makes me feel like she's someone who's taking advantage of the situation. I know it's hard to see a lesbian not get her happy ending, but putting all the blame on Machi isn't really fair.

I feel exactly the same way. Hana expecting something from this when she pushed someone that clearly can be pushed this way is really unfair.

Talk to her properly, don't do it like this, girl. You can get a girlfriend, just don't be so friggin pushy.

Ok so I'm here to quell all the anger

TBH, the only anger I'm seeing is from people angry that other people didn't like this particular story much. Which seems a bit silly.

I'd say more accurate translation would be "Don't lump us together." or alternately you could go for "Don't even compare us."

I'd probably translate her line as "Our relationship's a bit different than yours", then. Still a somewhat unpleasant thing to say (since she's directly contrasting her purity to other relationships that, therefore, have no or notably less purity), but with less of an edge.

I've only ever heard "don't lump us in with someone like you" with negative connotiations, it's almost always used in a way to distinguish oneself. Ie, if I say "Don't lump me in with that group", I'm usually implying I'm better than these. It's actually a line that English translators I work with actively avoid, because of these connotiations in colloquial use.

Case in point: Were I to post "don't lump me in with straight people" on twitter, I'd have 50 angry responses rather quickly :P

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Exclamation mark spam is usually exactly what the character thinks. That!

And yeah, poking tropes is what makes this oneshot so odd - it's suddenly taking one trope to 11. Some may take it as fun, to others it's not so fun.

Difficult to know the real intent, though. Couldn't find the raws. I trust the translators, but it'd be nice to know!

People seem to be reading something in the tone that I'm not getting:

I would actually say that you are reading irony into it that really isn't there. Tamamusi's style is usually not ironic when writing like this.

I'm not condemning her or anything, it's just the obvious reaction to this story - and, by the way, the reaction would be the same regardless if the narrators final comments are ironic or not - the biggest unpleasant feeling I had wasn't the narrator's textbox, but the "don't lump us in with someone like you" panel. That's the one that feels bad, less what the narrator thinks.

I have not seen the original words, and am not sure if the page would come across as even half as judgemental in the original text, of course, but...

@Sezter94:
While I wouldn't go so far to see Tamamusi different over this, you seem to overreact more to a negative opinion in a forum than Cryssoberyl to the story. If someone reads this story in such a way as to suggest certain hangups on part of the author, thinking back on cheery amnesia might find those hangups there too. Go back a page and you'll see others note that parts of cheery read really weird. So please stop that.

This is probably, genuinely, the most unpleasant manga I've read on this site. Whoa.

The tags did nothing!

People seem to think a dark storm is coming

I actually, genuinely, think no storm will come, because the author didn't notice the writing has various ways to read it. It'll be a scene that in a larger context will fall aside and be forgotten.

Would be my guess, anyway.

While I didn't read it the way many people did (as in Kase negging her), I do absolutely understand why several people read it that way. A shame, this scene really could go both ways, and that in itself is a bit of a failing in the storytelling if it isn't intended to be read that way.

Some Kase-faces do seem a bit unsettling there. Intentional? Forgot to color the blush? I'm not sure.

Either way, thinking on it and talking with a friend about it, the "she is negging" is probably the more reasonable reading here. ESPECIALLY couple with some of the facial expressions. Quite possibly caused by the author using poor romance tropes uncritically. Kase and Yamade sometimes did fall into heterosexual romance tropes before, and this may stem from simply mimicking stuff there.

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It's like one of those stories that could have been resolved in one page if one character just speaks their mind already.

You mean 90% of yuri?

I will never understand people. Why the hell hiding something like that?

I would genuinely argue that this stance would be the immature one. There are plenty reasons for people to hide that kind of thing, very legitimate reasons in fact.

Though, I think the tag Het should still be added to this manga.

It shouldn't. The opinion of someone that admits to not even reading it fully aren't really relevant, for one.
Read "Yuri na Watashi to Akuma na kanojo" instead, it seems to be more the kind of thing you're into.

I thought that they "lived" for a long near eternity, but it was only 86 years. The moral seems to be that casting off the body is incompatible with a human existance, and that they yearned to have that back, to change over the years as the couples they watched do. But I feel that reading is a bit, how to put it...

"this is how we are, so it is the best way"

My take is that that was more a bad decision on their end, deciding that they had to do so to emulate other humans
And since they were connected, whoever thought it probably infected the other with that thought

But overall their situation was anything but horrible. The mere fact they had enough control to effectively commit suicide shows that they had all the freedom. If anything, there was only one mistake in this story, really:

Keeping the sattelite pair near earth to record humanity

What they should have done is send them out instead, to record back to humanity at large. That would have been useful, would have allowed them to see things no human ever will, and never have this worry of "static" experience while comparing themselves to living humans

It is not a bad story, but philosophically, I disagree with the human status glorification it does. In that way, what this reminded me off was not an outer limits episode, but all those "regular person in fantasy world" stories where the human, in the end, discards all the magic to return to ordinary life. That mere thought is anathema to me, I suppose I'm transhumanist in that way :P.

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Robot might kill me because a pressure sensor was gummed up and the welcome home hug contained 10000 newtons of hydraulic force.

It's like people being scared of self-driving cars (or trains etc): nearly all car accidents are happening because of human error; same for trains. Yet we are far more scared of some mechanical/Ai failure, which ultimately would be or will be far less likely ;)

It's not entirely about the actual risk level. It's also about the perception . . . and reality . . . that you have some control over that risk. People like to feel in control of what's going on. If you drive a car and don't want to die, you can drive defensively; it won't necessarily work, but careful drivers do have far fewer accidents. If your car drives itself the risk level is what it is--high or low, you are helpless to make a difference. Blank Mage was just saying that robot risk leaves you less in control than people risk, and I'd say it's true--we've evolved to estimate and counter people risk; robot risk, not so much.

I'd say the opposite is true: People are uncomfortable because people SUCK at estimating and countering risk. Humans are TERRIBLE at judging probability. That's why it is so easy to manipulate people on that front (and why people get angry if they see a 90% probability and fail 10% of the time - people see 90% and expect 99%)

Yes, in a vacuum the driving car does allow the driver fewer decisions, and thus less control. But the baseline risk is still below that of a human driver, regardless how careful they drive. Meaning the overall risk is much, much lower.

The human just feels less in control about it, because of the error in perception when it comes to probability.

I'd say the real issue with sexbots is one of slavery. If the bot has an actual mind, buying one would quite simply be slavery. If the bot doesn't, it's nothing to love, it's a thing.

A title like that and no sex?

Oh well, adorable as hell.

There was hardcore Tail touching though.

Given their trajectory in the last panel, there's more opportunity for Lion to get further hot and bothered...

Yuri physics!

Still an old favorite. So cute, and mutual <3

I can't wait for one of the girl to get in an accident, run over by a car/truck/bike/bus, or even stabbed/raped by an ex.

It's a Korean webcomic. It's bound to have contrived drama.

eyeroll

If only every story was a story where two girls blush a bit, barely touch hands, and that's all there is. The extent of yuri.

There are also readers who demand every single work on this site to be "yuri" first and foremost, while challenging everything that isn't outright lesbian porn in regards to whether it is "even yuri" in the first place.

Haha, I'd expect Type A stories to be first on their chopping block.

Would you mind telling me which parts of my interpretation you disagree with? I am honestly interested in them

Not Ackerman, but personally, I disagree mainly with the length of the relationship she had with her boyfriend. She still went to love hotels with him, after all - that doesn't seem to be something that fits to a guy wealthy enough and serious enough to buy really expensive rings as a gift. You'd expect them to be at his home there.

( or so I interpreted https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/an_absurd_relationship_ch09#10 )

Of course, we'll likely never know, and it's just interpretation :) The length there ultimately changes nothing, and your overall summary was really neat.

And just when it thought Jin was one of the best yuri manga artists.....sighs....

This story happened and bumped her down.

Seriously? You didn't like one story (enough to keep coming back to complain about it over and over) and that tarnishes all other works? I know some people are obsessed with purity, but jeeeeeeeeeez.

(I also find that rather suspect from someone that ships a murderous arrancar with their potential victim, going by avatar :P )

Unfortunate that they just time skipped away all the romantic development.

And this is why people only scanlate simple plot A stories that nobody can get confused by: Anything even remotely subtle flies right past many in the audience.

We saw the romantic development. We saw more than most couples in most manga ever get. It just wasn't in your face with a sledgehammer.

Developments, both in character and in plot. Looking forward to the next two indeed.

Takejima Jin month, it seems :D

How is she being rude or that distant?

Blondie literally comments that these are out of character.

The manga literally keeps slapping you over and over that this is how Blondie messes with Yamanaka, which is WHY Yamanaka considers her a pain in the butt. Yamanaka isn't the nicest person to others, especially not in her past, but she very much improved. Kinda hard to miss that!

So you also cheated on your girlfriends?

Don't think I did, no.

She wasn't burned, she was the one burning people.

She cheated on one girlfriend, yeah. She's not perfect.

And yes, she very much was burned. Chapter one is an example, and the recent girl dropping the marriage on her is another.

I understand that you value this ideal of "purity" to an extreme extent, but real people rarely are pure. Nor does "doing a bad thing" once make everything else a person does forever evil and guilty forevermore. What Yamanaka is guilty of is not being a pure fragile waifu from your eroge, but that's not a particular problem.

Seriously though: Why do you think did we have chapter 5? It's to show growth. If you compare the Yamanaka then to the one now, we already have a quite more mellow and, yes, nicer character. That gives you a hint what this is for: Character development. It shows how she was, as a contrast to how she is right now, and again to how she will be in 3 chapters.

She won't win a waifu contest even then, sure, but she doesn't need to. And tbh, that makes this manga so much more readable than most of the "pure waifu handhold only '''''yuri''''" that seeks to offend absolutely no sensibility and thus takes absolutely zero risks. :P

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@Fenny

TBH, he seems to be moving way too fast anyway. If I were straight, I'd be running as fast as I could if some guy was this fast with proposals... at least get to know her first, dude...)

For me, in love, time is irrelevant. Since, it is not the quantity of time but quality. That is why there is such thing as "love at first sight". Love for me is never a cognitive process not even emotional, it is just the whole me. That includes my spiritual, physical and desires. So, in the case of the boyfriend, he wanted to seal whatever they have together with Taneda, else, it would be taken away by the topic of discussion always, Yamanaka.

Some people may say, "Love bomb". But for me, there are people who knew what they wanted. I, included. However, in this story, I don't know if the boyfriend is. Little was established yet. So, I can't make an inference even a guess.

You're right, in retrospect.
In this case it doesn't help we never see him AT ALL. The only scene I ever saw anything useful of him was where he mildly complains she keeps talking about Yamanaka.

She talks about it as a gift so I assumed it is not a proposal. Anyway do your proposals in person.

The ring costs 1000$ or 2500$ - it's safe to say it was meant as a proposal. Unless he's mega rich, that's a ridiculous gift just like that, and the way she treats it really shows she sees it as a kind of proposal, which is why rejecting it means rejecting him, right?
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It's interesting how Takemiya Jin can be so consistently either Top Tier

or this

I found most yuri focused mangaka to be average at most. Boring and repetitive.

I find most guys whining about yuri manga to be average at best, with their comments being boring and repetitive :P

So far, Yamanaka has been nothing but distant and somewhat rude to the blond girl

Is she? Is she really? Serious talk.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/an_absurd_relationship_ch02#5
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/an_absurd_relationship_ch07#1
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/an_absurd_relationship_ch10

How is she being rude or that distant?

Doesn't look like she is - she seems like a regularly nice coworker that just isn't shy about playful chiding. Several of my male coworkers act like this towards each other, and you can tell they like each other (probably not in a yaoi way, sadly, they seem pretty straight). They sure spend a lot of free time together (mainly playing games during breaks)

In fact, I'd say that it is the blonde who was fiery first, as we can see in scenes like this:
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/an_absurd_relationship_ch04#6

I'd say that blondie originally tried to be cheeky, started to get interested, but then thought that Yamanaka had a girlfriend, as in here:
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/an_absurd_relationship_ch06#4

Probably led to the boyfriend. Note her reaction in this one:
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/an_absurd_relationship_ch09#13

Yamanaka is distant, but she's distant for a reason: She's a lesbian that has been burned in the past. And is STILL being burned by her now-to-be-married buddy. That's why I am somewhat distant to female coworkers.

The difference now is that the girl right now actually interested in her for real. But how would she know that? Right now, she doesn't.

(Also, can I say that I find it funny how certain people are already all over the guy, of whom we saw absolutely nothing, not even a face :P Going by the "drinking" scene a few chapters back, she wasn't even with him for that long at all - otherwise she could have escaped the male coworkers easily. TBH, he seems to be moving way too fast anyway. If I were straight, I'd be running as fast as I could if some guy was this fast with proposals... at least get to know her first, dude...)

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It's interesting how Takemiya Jin can be so consistently either Top Tier

or this

I'd say this is top tier. You'll soon see why.

Yuri stories in women-only capsules so male readers don't feel threatened by it are okay and all, but I prefer when a woman makes a conscious choice to go for a woman, including picking her over a guy.

where is this going? some one? please? i really want too know XD

Next chapter is the important one, because it addresses the main concern in this thread. Although the whole couple thing will take another two.

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