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assuming they're not supposed to turn on each other at the end or something, hopefully YH wouldn't be THAT dark...

You want THAT dark from Yuri Hime? Try I Love You from vol 11. But you may not like it. That oneshot is also full of (mostly off screen) violence and death. And at the end...

It took me a little while to locate this one because I didn't remember it very well (I only read it once), so the reply was slow.

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Well my curiosity is satisfied, but it's still very disturbing. I can't say that I'll read any more of this one. As it happens, I did read Battle Royale through once, and I intend to never read it again.

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Does anyone know what issue of Yuri Hime this was in?

also yeah this is in yuri hime, weird huh

This chapter was in vol 47 (March 2015). I just took it upon myself to add the chapter to that volume.

Every single issue I've received of Yuri Hime starting with vol 47, I've noticed this series and been both greatly disturbed by it and curious about it.

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ch 12, pg 8: "Y, your serious..." should be "You're or You are" not "your"

Thanks for pointing that out, but actually, this time, I caught that myself (believe it or not) an hour or so ago and corrected it. As always, hit the reload button in your browser to see the correction.

Edit: I've said it before, but why can't I catch things like that before I upload it? Especially since I've made exactly that same error in an upload before.

Edit 2: I also caught (and fixed) an error on the credits page in my comment on the chapter. take -> takes.

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I know for a fact that in the United States even if they did ALL those things. It's not rape unless penetration is involved. Literally. That's it. There HAS to be penetration for it to be consider rape/sexual assault. Basically it's nearly impossible for a guy to get raped, according to the law and lesbians simply cannot rape people (although I'm not sure whether penetration via toys counts though to be honest). How's that for reasonable?

The laws vary quite a bit in the United States; each state has it's own laws on that. Where I am, I'm not sure exactly what constitutes rape, though I'm pretty sure oral sex counts. I do know it's possible for a woman to rape a man, though not exactly common. However, any unwanted sexual contact, even (intentionally) touching someones behind constitutes sexual assault and can be prosecuted. Additionally, attempted rape is also a crime with fairly severe penalties.

Of course that doesn't mean it's always easy to get convictions. I also remember hearing of one case (not in my state) where a woman accused a star athlete of rape. After investigating the case, they ended up prosecuting the woman for false accusation.

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I tried a couple of internet searches about rape in Japan. I didn't get much besides rape porn videos (PASS!!) and nothing at all about homosexual rape, but here is what I did get.

Warning, this information is not reliable!

  • According to the law, it's not rape unless threats or violence are used. Take you by surprise? Not rape. Implied threats so that you're afraid to resist? Not rape.
  • They don't want to pursue it if it was someone the victim knows. (They must have led them on?) And of course they don't want to pursue it if the victim was wearing revealing clothes.
  • Prosecutors will drop a case unless they're sure they'll win; it would look bad on their record.
  • Because of all this, very few rapes get reported in Japan and there are far more rapes than their public image says. (Though it may indeed be the case that you're less likely to be raped by a stranger.)

This info mostly came from one post and even if it was true, it may no longer be accurate, so don't assume this info is true. Though that third point would explain Japan's very high conviction rates if no prosecutor will take a case unless they're sure they'll win.

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Before I knew yuri, or online scanlations, existed, I came across First Love Sisters vol. 1 in the bookstore. Of course I bought it instantly; then vol. 2 never came out. Years later I discovered fan scanlations and thought "Maybe I can find the rest of First Love Sisters." I could, and a whole lot more yuri besides, too much for me deal with. So looking around I found a recommendation for Girl Friends which immediately became my new favorite. Picking and choosing I found Hanjuku Joshi and Sighs, Kisses and Cherry Blossom Pink. Notice a pattern? Three of them were done by Lililicious and they did extras for the forth. I eventually followed the credit page links to Lililicious, where I became hooked on everything Yuri Hime. They said Dynasty had done some of Yuri Hime and much of Yuri Hime S, so I came here to try to get more of it, and also more of Tsubomi and Hirari. And the rest, as they say, is history.

While I love Yuri, I have not read all the yuri on this site and I never will. There's a reason why I was slow and picky when I first found online yuri. I love stories that show the love and relationships between lesbian girls. (I'm one of them myself.) And yes, of course I want to see them become physically involved with each other. But if the story feels like nothing but porn, it pushes me away, and the cruder it is, the faster I run. Of course if I can feel the love in the story, the porn doesn't bother me so much, and if it's presented without crudity as well, it doesn't bother me at all.

Edit: A small wall of text.

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God I could just feel the awkward oozing during that commute to work. I'm not liking Hana's "don't talk to me until work" mentality. It feels a little extreme. Actually thinking about it, this gives off a Shinozaki vibe in terms of pretending to be something you're not and over thinking every little thing.

Hoping Hana realizes she's being ridiculous soon. It's like watching a train wreck of awkwardness.

Tempted; no I mustn't; tempted; giving in... Here is an small spoiler. This one's real, be warned. In chapter 4, Hana ambushes Hina to talk at school at the shoe lockers. Make of it what you will. Well I do plan to get chapter 4 out before too long.

So far my assumptions are correct. Hinako isn't a tsundere, and @Yuri Girl 1001 you just can't stay away huh? :]

You may be right; I'm back again.

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"Continued in September issue"??? What?? Thats too far away

Actually, it's already out. Look at the release date right under that, (Release date Saturday, July 25th) Most magazines actually come out a month or two before it's dated. I already have my copy, I've already skimmed through it, and I'll be starting in on it very soon.

Edit: Also, as a point of interest, notice at the top of the credits page that this chapter is from the August issue. Obviously, I can't scan, translate, clean, redraw and letter a 24 page chapter in just a day or so. I don't have a time machine either; it came out in June.

Edit 2: I guess that sounds sarcastic; I really didn't intend it that way. Sorry about that.

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Murakami's face at the bottom of page 11, she seriously thinks that Moritani is just asking to know her body better (which isn't what Moritani means at all). I'd say that Murakami truly believes that the only reason someone would want her is for her body. That is she believes nobody would want her for herself, not even as a friend. I'd also guess that she has a lot of experience backing up that belief.

The way the two became acquainted back in chapter one fit that preconceived notion. Moritani is going to have to do something drastic to start shaking that belief loose. The stage was set in this chapter, but can Moritani do what has to be done? Moritani is like I used to be when I was young; I know what it's like to be a person who fades into the background, who doesn't make waves, who never does anything drastic. It took me decades to somewhat break out of that mold.

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monthly not weekly? meh..

Ah, I see your point. I'll get in touch with the publisher and get them to start a weekly magazine, and I'll contact Morinaga-sensei and get her to get it transfered to that weekly and keep up with it. And then I'll keep up with it too. I'm sure it will be no tribble, I mean trouble at all. (Sorry for the random reference to a certain SF TV show.)

Eh, What's that koneko? You weren't serious? You were referring to certain discussions in certain other forums not to be named?? Ah, thank goodness; because obviously I wasn't serious either. Sorry about that.

Also in the first chapter on page 20 "didn't recognized me" should be corrected.

Even with you pointing it out, it took me a moment to spot it. It's corrected and uploaded with a new version number. Remember to hit reload in your browser if you don't see the correction. Thanks for spotting it.

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Age 15 discussion 19 Jul 02:50
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Arent there free raws . im poor :D

I wouldn't know. You can always try Googling for it.

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Where can i read the raws?

You can find the "raws" here: volume 1, volume 2, volume 3.

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"Ah, but what am I to my cousin's child?"
Now it starts sounding weird; they call that cousin once removed (one generation later). Your grandparent is their great grandparent.
"Them what am I to my parent's cousin?"
Still cousin once removed. It doesn't matter which party is one generation later.
"What about my 3rd cousin's grandchild?"
Now it becomes 3rd cousin twice removed (two generations later).

Didn't understand a thing (maybe cos I'm not native + it's late, but w/e)

For the exactly two and one third people on this thread who actually care, the details are more clearly explained by Wikipedia. Meanwhile, here's a sample chart from that page.

First cousins once removed

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Just to make things even more confusing, there are also double cousins, which is when a pair of siblings marries another pair of siblings (the double twin pair from Usotsuki Lily is a good example). Their kids are double cousins with each other since they share the same grandparents.

Actually, I have a friend who has a double cousin. I believe double cousins are as closely related as aunt/uncle is with nephew/niece. Or as close as half siblings. If the common ancestor's children were half siblings, I don't know how/whether that affects the nomenclature.

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I thought I'd clarify how the nomenclature of cousins works. For no particular reason.
This Information is from my childhood, I didn't look this up.

If your parents are siblings, you are cousins.
If your parents are cousins, you are 2nd cousins.
If your parents are 2nd cousins, you are 3rd cousins. And so on.

"Ah, but what am I to my cousin's child?"
Now it starts sounding weird; they call that cousin once removed (one generation later). Your grandparent is their great grandparent.
"Them what am I to my parent's cousin?"
Still cousin once removed. It doesn't matter which party is one generation later.
"What about my 3rd cousin's grandchild?"
Now it becomes 3rd cousin twice removed (two generations later).

Of course informally, you just call your cousin's child your cousin; that's easier. That's exactly how I referred to my cousin's child, whom I was very close to, when I was young.

Edit: Also whether or not it should be called incest, I think just about everywhere in the world you can marry your 2nd cousin. Are there any exceptions?

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If anyone is interested, Ihoshiku is doing live translation of chapter 3. It's happening now! Check this out and refresh from time to time for updates.

In chapter 3 She gives her senpai explicit permission to woo her. I don't think I've ever seen that in a manga either.

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What if my mother were to learn I scanlated Milky? Maybe she would say "My Daughter Has Been Hiding Scanlating Mother Daughter Incest Porn Books..."

Sorry... that thought just kept persistently coming to mind every time I saw this title. And for the morbidly curious, there is zero chance I'd ever become involved with my mother.

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So if I email Ratana, I can buy volume 1 in English?

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You say it's just not possible to use the word "Gal" in this instance because the meaning is different in Japanese, but I don't buy that. You're already using a translator's note to explain the made-up word "gyaru". How is that any different than using a translator's note to explain the use of "Gal"? "*In this instance the English word 'gal' means..." etc etc. Not only are you more faithful to the text but you've also educated your readership, not all of whom will know that gyaru is a transliteration of gal.

I disagree with you entirely. You would have a point but there's a distinction to be made still. For someone who already knows the word "gal" in English they have to add a completely new definition to it meaning they'll more easily get mixed up when coming across the word since they'll have to figure out which definition to use. "Gyaru" on the other hand is not a word an English speaker is going to come across anywhere with a definition other than the one given in the translator note. Since they'll only be required to remember one definition for the word (as well as the word itself, but that's not all that difficult) it'll be easier for them to figure out what is actually meant.

I think it's kinda like how officially translated works tend to lose honorifics and try to use more natural English speech. It may be more accurate on a technical level but all it serves to do is make things more ambiguous for the reader since they can't easily tell just how close any two characters are now. (Honorifics of course being an extreme example of the point I'm trying to make but it's the same basic idea regardless.)

I've been vacillating over this much of the day. But in the end, as Alice Cheshire points out, just because it's the way some official translation are doesn't necessarily mean it's the way to go. And so I've finally decided to leave it as it is, and continue using gyaru when in shows up in future chapters. After all, gyaru is already in common usage in many places, along with gal and kogal. Sorry I took so long to figure that out.

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I think what motojin means is that Seven Seas officially used "Gal" for "Gyaru" in their manga, and others official licensors have as well. I don't really care either way, myself, but when I read "gal" in manga it's usually referring to the gyaru-type girl.

Hmm. I'll take that into account. Still, before now if I saw gal in a manga I would've assumed the English speakers meaning. Edit: I'm going to discuss this one with the QC-er and get back to you.

I am suddenly making way to many posts. I'll try to cut back.

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btw @Yuri Girl 1001, at the top of your credit page, you have Hakamada Mera as the artist for this one lol.

Proof that for new credits pages I start with old. It's fixed; don't forget to hit refresh to see the fix if you want. A while back when I did a triple chapter release, I accidentally gave all 3 chapters the same name in the credits pages.

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As always with Morinaga Milk, this looks very cute. I have one problem with the translation, though; saying "gyaru" instead of "gal". I've always felt that sort of transliteration to make an English word sound Japanese is insulting to the Japanese. As if you're laughing at the Japanese for saying "gyaru" instead of "gal" or 'doriftuto" instead of "drift" or "dorama" instead of "drama." The Japanese are saying English words. It's just the translator insisting on using the Japanese transliteration of the word instead of just using the English word the Japanese are already saying.

Here's an explanation. Normally, if the Japanese uses an English word, I'll use that word in the translation if at all possible. In this case though, it's not possible since gal means two completely different things to English speakers and Japanese speakers. Please see the translators note on page 2 for an explanation. For a more thorough explanation, search gyaru on the web.

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so what happened to that other morinaga manga with that school girl cop?

That one was School Police. The entire series was published in English by Seven Seas under the name Gakuen Polizi. Volume 1 is here and volume 2, conclusion, is here. I've been assuming that Yuri Project hasn't done a release for so long because of that.

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Yeah. To them separation of church and state means "The state shall not impose someone else's religion on me, but my religion (which after all is the one true religion) must control the state and through it impose my religion on everybody else. Anything less means I have no freedom of religion. (Everyone else's freedom of religion is the freedom to have my religion.)"

Edit: Religious freedom laws? Hah!! Religious oppression laws!

Edit 2: Our previous governor Kathlene Sebelius, a catholic, never let her religious views influence her public policy.

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