When are they even going to kiss? I mean Yuki and the maid she likes!

Ayano and Yuki? Hopefully soon. Though to be honest, I’d be okay with Yuki and Oguri too.

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Side pairs like OgurixAnna or KozuexMimika will generally get development before the main pair

Seriously hoping that’s not the case but it seems like that’s probably what’s gonna happen.

Though if I’m right and Oguri does end up having a thing for Yuki, then it might just push Ayano or Yuki to get their feelings together a lot faster.

You don't need a degree to do that and the job doesn't have any responsibilities that you'd need connections to get it. She's basically helping out everybody on set, be it setting up the props or bringing coffee.

While it’s true you can apply for the job straight out of high school, production assistant is a coveted position for people who want to get into the entertainment industry not as an actor but as a member of the crew.

It’s grunt work but that’s how you get experience and connections to move up the chain of command.

A lot of people want this position because they see it as a stepping stone to becoming something more, like a producer, or so they can get the inner workings of the industry. It’s pretty competitive. And even if it’s considered entry level position studios usually prefer someone with experience.

But in Shouko’s case, she’s pretty, personable, and popular so either she has connections or charmed the pants off the person interviewing her.

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The Catulus stuff doesn’t bother me as much as the fact that we are 38 chapters in and Ayano and Yuki still haven’t figured out they’re into each other.

At least in the latest chapters they're closer than ever before in realizing it.

Yeah but I’m greedy so I would like to see more bonding moments between the two of them. There are a lot of girls coming in so we haven’t gotten proper Ayuki time.

Seems like a pretty nonsensical detail to ditch... and I'm not really seeing why the whole thing would have any bearing on pigmentation abnormalities of sometimes VERY diverse origins (one possible cause for heterochromia is genetic mosaicism from a vanishing twin for ex).

You see this as a huge oversight but if all those instances you mention don’t exist in the Catulus world then it simply doesn’t matter to the story.

We don’t know what exactly the illnesses are in Cat World. For all we know cancer doesn’t exist here.

The focus of the story is tackling Catulus Syndrome and how it affects carriers and their relationships. Given the tone of the story, I highly doubt we are going to get a breakdown of the other instances why heterochromia exists in Cat World.

Can't really disagree here. There's a pretty strong impression of, as it were,
So bounce the graviton particle beam
Off the main deflector dish
That's the way we do things, lad
Making shit up as we wish!
...and it's notoriously hard to keep the whole thing straight (ahem) when writing by the seat of your pants like that.

The Catulus stuff doesn’t bother me as much as the fact that we are 38 chapters in and Ayano and Yuki still haven’t figured out they’re into each other.

Well I think we can assume the condition is genetic at least - if it was contagious the catgirls would hardly be allowed to mingle freely with regular folks, cute or not...

Probably caused by the accumulation of a critical mass of crazy cat ladies over centuries. :U

Hence my likening it to X-Men.

I find that to rather stretch plausibility, not in the least as heterochromia can also be caused by postnatal injuries. And (X) DOUBT @ albinism, leucism etcetera not existing in this world.

It's a manga so suspension of disbelief is kind of necessary. We're already shown things that can't exist in this world so why is it so much of a stretch to assume that there are things in the real world that don't exist in the Catulus world?

It seems to me like a rather more credible explanation that Anna is simply talking out of her ass for whatever reason (she says a fair few dubious-sounding things in general) and/or the author really didn't care about the details making much sense...

It could be that the whole Catulus thing is being retconned by the author as they're prolonging the story.

It's kind of a given an awful lot about the eponymous "syndrome" makes very little sense so it'd arguably be better if the author didn't specifically keep dragging it right into the spotlight where the inevitable holes are that much harder to ignore, tbh.

All I understand so far is that Catulus Syndrome, a condition that is contracted where subjects obtain catlike features as well as the ability to turn into a cat, appears only in girls right around when they hit puberty but there's a rare instance where you're born with it like in Yuki's and perhaps Oguri's cases.

Honestly right now, since it doesn't seem like we've been given the full breakdown of the syndrome, the whole thing just feels like X-Men to me.

Both occur readily enough in perfectly normal humans (and many other animals for that matter) so that's a complete non-starter and I have no bloody idea what Anna (and the author) are babbling there.

Perhaps full humans in the Catulus world don't have white hair and heterochromia. Purple and blue hair is normal but full on white with yellow and blue eyes is just a cat thing in this world.

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In the flashback picture of Anna and Oguri, you can't see whether or not she has cat ears or not. I don't think she was a catulus at the time. Something happened and they came to the conclusion that the gap is to large for normal people and catulus to become close. Oguri hides her symptoms and Anna either contracted catulus later or isn't a true one either.

Anna definitely was not a Catulus at the time since her human ear is shown. I maintain my theory that perhaps Oguri was her maid/companion when they were little since Oguri stated she was always a maid.

Also, pure speculation but given Anna's wealthy background and her pushiness, it's evident she behaves like a spoiled child. Perhaps as they grew older, seeing as Oguri was happy in that little flashback, Oguri began to feel more like Anna was treating her more like a plaything for her amusement rather than a friend, hence why she developed the 'Catulus and humans cannot be friends' attitude.

I would go so far as to say that after Oguri left their household, perhaps Anna tracked her down after she contracted the syndrome and that's why Oguri now hates the idea of being friends with someone just because they're Catulus as well.

Like I said, pure speculation though.

If the sketchy professor can make a medicine to hide the features, it wouldn't be to far fetched to say there's one to give those same attributes as well.

Since Anna's family owns a hospital, she has the resources to reach out to the Prof to help her contract the syndrome/illness.

Though I do wonder how Anna came to the conclusion that humans and Catulus can never comprehend each other. Did becoming a Catulus open her eyes to things she couldn't understand about Oguri before? Or has she been ostracized like the other Catulus after she turned? I hope the author explains.

Always true, but I prefer to start by trying to parse out what’s on the page rather than assume the translation’s to blame, since the translators are giving me a gift by doing something I could never do in a million years.

I’m very grateful for translators so I hope no one gets offended by my previous comment. If not for wonderful these translators, I would have to wait for manga to be licensed before I could read!

I also don’t blame translation right off the bat. I take stock of the drawings, the composition, the character expressions and try to discern what’s happening from that.

What I’m getting from the tone of that whole scene is:

Harumi- “I’m not in love with Yuzu. If you don’t believe me, get lost.”

Matsuri- “Who you trying to fool?”

But the “if” (which implies a “then”) form of Harumin’s intended brushoff statement doesn’t make complete sense to me since Matsuri never said anything that suggested she “got” (i.e., acknowledged in any way) what Harumin said. (In other words, it would be clearer if it had gone Haru: “Friends—perfectly normal.” Matsu: “Yeah, yeah, sure.” Haru: “If you got that, get lost.”)

Yeah, it would have made more sense if Harumi said something like ‘Now get lost’ because it would flow better contextually, not to mention it demonstrates her dynamic with Matsuri better, than ‘If you got it, get lost.’

But I guess if you want to really read into Harumi and not just her words, maybe she really just wants company because she’s miserable about the YuzuMei thing and she knew Matsuri was never going to accept her “no homo” explanation because Matsuri’s long suspected HaruYuzu so that’s why Harumi phrased it like that.

It could also just be a translation thing, not that I’m saying they did a bad job, but sometimes translations get iffy if you try to word for word it.

As for alternate meanings, I briefly considered the possibility that Matsuri had actually bought the manga that Yuzu wants, but that makes even less sense on a number of levels, not the least of which being that Harumin would have had to have seen Matsuri buying it.

When I first read through it, I thought Harumi got it and Matsuri told her to get lost because she was upset that Harumi was being extra.

On a slightly different matter, I want to read Peach Sisters.

I too want to read Peach Sisters.

Questions about Chapter 2:

What is the import of Mei calling out to Yuzu with the name "Aihara-san"? The whole school already knows they're step-siblings, and it's not even like Mei is in her "official" mode scolding Yuzu for violating some school policy. Isn't she being exceptionally formal there?

When Harumin crushes Matsuri by saying, "If you got it, get lost," what does the "it" refer to? I can think of several possibilities, none of which seem to fit exactly.

I think Mei’s probably trying not to get people to talk about them more so she’s in President mode. She calls everyone by their last name and Yuzu should be no different, regardless of their connection.

The ‘it’ could refer to Harumi’s previous statement about how it’s fine to exert effort to make your friends happy. She just imparted some wisdom that Matsuri’s supposed to absorb.

I’m curious what are your other interpretations though?

But some readers seem to be devoted to what amounts to a contemporary version of medieval canon law—only the overt depiction of mutually administered orgasms can qualify as consummation of a relationship in the eyes of God and (well, usually the term is “man,” but that’s at best awkward here), a modern version of a traditional “bedding ritual” that is required before these de facto spouses can be truly said to be “going out.”

Ahhh, now those people's comments of how the MCs aren't a couple yet make a bit more sense thanks to your explanation. Seriously, though, why do such old ideas (or, at least, slightly modified versions of old ideas) have/need to persist. It's dumb.

I believe the author never intended readers to view Kasurako’s relationship in a typical manner and I don’t believe we will ever see them depicted in that light.

The inclusion of the two other couples almost makes certain this level of explicitness will never be a part of Kasurako’s relationship.

Shouri is what usually happens when we place two very different people together. There was an awkwardness to them in the beginning, a sense of disconnect because they regarded each other as strangers, and of course the way they come together is what should have happened with Kasurako if Kasurako were a normal couple.

Koruka’s relationship almost feels like a direct response to those that are questioning Kasurako’s relationship. They actually have the conversation of whether or not they cross the line of friendship toward coupledom.

A lot has happened between Kasurako in the six volumes.

I don’t see either of them making a move to have that defining conversation and if they do, I imagine the person posing the question whether or not they are indeed a couple will just be met with a resounding ‘yes.’

And if Kasurako outright state that they’re romantically involved, people will always question when exactly they established that. Is it when they first met? Or when Kasumi first referred to Sakurako as her wife? Maybe it’s when they first kissed?

Simply questioning/addressing their status won’t be enough since so much development happened.

I wonder, based on these first paragraphs, what do y'all think? Would you say I nailed it?

Pretty much nailed it I’d say.

I just love the couples in this. After reading things like Citrus and Murcielago, it was nice to come upon a manga that’s so uncomplicated.

There’s very little drama here (I think the most was dramatic this got was with Seri and Shouko getting together but that was quickly resolved) yet there’s character and romantic development in between the slice of life stuff that keeps me reeled in.

Also love that the couples all started off differently.

Kasurako basically are dating since they met. Even though Shouri were also roommates, they had that will they won’t they thing. Koruka were actually friends before they started dating.

Part 2 - Ayuko’s in love with Tsubame. : P

Sakurako is clearly more demonstrative of the two and there are times when I feel like Kasumi just goes along with it because it’s easier, but then I remember this

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/a_room_for_two_a_room_for_two#13

Also the fact that Kasumi objects to stuff that she doesn’t like: Sakurako’s screen name, hugging when it’s too hot, her saying she only wants Sakurako to take care of her, etc. and then I realize these two have been married since they met.

But when we remember that Mei was the wielder of the Magical Lesbian Kiss that instantly turned a (supposedly) boy-crazy gyaru into a devoted follower of Sappho in Chapter 1, her purity turn all these many pages later has . . . well, I don't want to overstate it, but this Mei seems to me like a rather smaller and less interesting character than she used to be.

Sex is easy for Mei. She’s used to having her body be used. Her grandfather was gonna marry her off and her first fiancé assaulted her.

Mei’s being sweet and affectionate. So far, Yuzu’s been the one who’s been moving mountains to be with Mei. Yuzu was the one exerting all the effort and Mei was going along with some of it because she didn’t know how to be in an actual relationship, aside from the sex stuff.

In the ending chapters, I wanted Mei to be the one to fight for Yuzu, to run back to Yuzu on her own accord. But ultimately it was Yuzu who chased after Mei, yet again. True Mei said yes but I never felt like Mei did enough to demonstrate her feelings went deeper. I never felt like she showed she loved Yuzu.

Now Mei is trying to defeat their biggest obstacle, herself.

She’s trying to overcome her instincts. That whole umbrella thing was just so cute. She seemed like she wanted to tell Yuzu to bring one but was reluctant, maybe because she doesn’t want to come off as preachy like everybody knows her to be. I mean, Harumi was telling her not to discourage Yuzu about the college thing.

She’s showing she really cares about Yuzu through actions and not just words. She wants Yuzu to feel she does love her as she’s carving a path toward a future for both her and Yuzu.

And I think it’s interesting to see this added depth to Mei’s character.

That’s just me though.

Again, it's arguably not entirely inconsistent with Mei's character for her to have become Miss Pre-Nuptial Purity Queen, but to me it's not particularly satisfactory either, not because I just want to see them get it on, but because it inevitably leads to more scenes of Mei fending off Yuzu (physically and emotionally) even though the two of them are now supposed to be closer than ever before.

I think this time around, Mei wants to reward Yuzu’s feelings emotionally.

What bound them the first time around was physical. The connection turned emotional but Mei had trouble expressing herself. This time, Mei wants to give Yuzu something she couldn’t before: consideration, honesty, perhaps an open line of communication and time.

Also, Mei probably feels guilty that she hurt Yuzu and now wants to show and prove that she loves Yuzu in other ways beside the obvious physical demonstrations.

And of course, maybe Mei’s trying to gauge how much Yuzu’s changed in the months they’ve been apart. It’s clear that she’s expecting Yuzu to be different somehow and she’s right. As Harumi and Matsuri have proven, Yuzu’s also still trying to prove her devotion to Mei by becoming a better partner, her version of someone who will be worthy to stand beside Mei.

Over all, I think Mei wants to improve their relationship by strengthening their emotional connection before diving into more carnal aspects of things.

In Yuzu’s case, she’s just happy to have Mei back so she’s not focusing on sex just yet. She seems to be enjoying the freedom of everyone knowing and is content with this development. I don’t think she’ll be asking for more any time soon, especially since she’s trying to get into the same university as Mei.

Though the college thing has me thinking once she gets accepted, the university isn’t the only place of Mei’s that Yuzu will be getting into.

It's kinda interesting how we've been hearing, more than seeing what Yuzu and Mei do in Citrus+. The narrative seems more focused on Harumin and Matsuri at this point, and I'm not even on the MatsuHaru ship.

I think it’ll probably feature both couples now, equally, if this date is anything to go by.

All four of the girls have room for development. Mei needs to demonstrate her emotions better. Yuzu’s taking steps toward becoming an equal partner for her future with Mei. Matsuri has to learn how to love. And we still need to learn whether or not Harumi is in love with Yuzu! If she isn’t, then Harumi also has to learn what it means to be in love.

Our twosome is now a foursome.

So how long until these silly girls realize that Oguri and Maron the catulus are the same person? Yuki seemed to notice it when they first met, but has apparently either forgotten or convinced herself she was wrong.

You’d think Yuki would realize since the Prof gave her the candy that made her ears disappear.... but I guess she doesn’t get why Oguron would want to hide it seeing as she seems like a well adjusted Catulus.

Idk man...I just think that it's not normal to be sleeping beside the person you like for so long and never having done anything. I have concerns for the current chemistry status of our main pain lol

Wasn’t for lack of want. It’s miscommunication and of course the fact that Mei was getting married.

Besides, they were officially together for what, a year? Given how tumultuous their entire journey has been I think it’s normal that they hadn’t done it yet.

Especially since it’s their first relationship, add to that the fact they are step sisters (though I think Yuzu had more of an issue with this than Mei), and they both had no idea what the hell they were doing, particularly in the feelings department.

Mei and Yuzu will be loving between the sheets (hopefully other places as well) soon though!

I shudder at the thought of their first time. I can only picture Mei lying as a dead fish.

Mei is definitely not a pillow princess. If anything, I’m scared for Yuzu.

I have a feeling, when she’s finally given the go signal, Mei’s gonna unleash her insatiable inner beast. I mean, she’s pent up. She confessed to wanting to touch Yuzu so I’m guessing she’s holding back quite a bit.

Poor Yuzu probably won’t be getting any sleep because once they start, Mei will have trouble stopping.

So... no scissoring til marriage?

I wouldn't say that, it's more like they still on first basics of dating.
& their doing one step at a time before they do anything R-18 rated stuff.
Which makes sense when you first start dating in a relationship.

I figure Mei wants a clean slate and she wants to start over, not quite at the beginning since they’ve established they both love each other, but just maybe override bad stuff from their first round.

This time around is different because they have no expiration date and they can be more honest with each other.

There’s no need to rush and they can just enjoy being in love for once.

Of course their physicality with one another was enjoyable to see but I’m loving that Mei is more considerate towards Yuzu. It’s nice that she’s becoming emotionally romantic.

So... no scissoring til marriage?

But it never did. The closest it's come was Mo, and she was crushing on Sun Jing. We've seen plenty of scenes of QT at school interacting with various students, and she's never showed the -slightest- interest in anyone but Sun Jing. That's where the weird choice is, not the idea of a rival in general, but the idea that they would have one and not bring it up AT ALL in the time between "Sun Jing confessed" and "They are now a couple".

I don’t think the author would have introduced someone that’s a current/frequent presence in QT’s life since they already did that with Mo.

That’s why I said someone from QT’s past.

A childhood friend or a tutor or someone like that could have been the person QT was talking about when SJ asked her who she liked.

Though I gather from peoples responses that I’m the minority in believing that QT only thought of SJ as a friend and hadn’t realized she liked SJ when SJ asked QT who she likes.

And like I said, I don’t think it’s weird because these sorts of unexpected curveballs have been thrown in stories a lot as a way to prolong the narrative.

We don’t know anything about QT’s or SJ’s past so I think there’s plenty of wiggle room for an insert.

That said, I don’t think it really matters now since the author is just focusing on the progression of their relationship since they seem to be losing interest in QT and SJ’s story. It seems like it’ll all be wrapped up in one nice neat package so I’m not expecting any sort of turbulence.

I just wanted to know if anyone else out there thought it was possible that QT was talking about someone else when she said she liked someone.

Well, yeah, they definitely were always going to end up together, the question has always been how, not if.

We know the how now too.

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What's more, if you go back to that first scene where she says she likes someone, Why would she dodge the subject if that person isn't Sun Jing? Her behavior there only makes sense in the context that she is thinking about Sun Jing.

I still maintain that she would be awkward if she had realized at that time that she has feelings for SJ.

I think QT’s comfortable around SJ when SJ asks her who she likes because at this point it isn’t SJ yet. We didn’t have that awkward red in the face moment like I expect QT to do when in the face of her crush.

For me, it could mean she’s looking/avoiding because she doesn’t want to talk about it.

Or maybe QT’s wondering why SJ is being insistent about finding out who.

But being gay isn't easy in most societies, and China can be particularly harsh about nonconformity. She recognizes her feelings there, but later, when Sun Jing confesses, she is afraid to take the plunge. So she retreats for awhile, but is unwilling to break ties, and then later when she realizes how much her hesitation is hurting Sun Jing, she breaks down and dives in.

That’s a decent interpretation but I still maintain QT’s romantic feelings are unknown at this point and the hug is a sign that their friendship is still intact.

I really do think QT is demonstrative and tactile due to her being isolated from her parents and her lack of friends. I don’t think her reactions are meant to be romantic at all. I mean, if QT knew she liked SJ then why was she so chill about asking her to come over after the confession?

The total lack of freaking out about having her crush coming over just demonstrates that she hasn’t processed her feelings yet.

Is it -possible- that she had somebody else she was crushing on? I guess, but it'd be weird not to show it. (Of course I still think it's weird how we skipped the resolution on Mo's plot. Sorry, B, we're on opposite sides of that one. ;p ) I don't think it's necessary to explain her behavior.

Not that weird. Like I said, it’s pretty common trend in stories to introduce a character to rock the boat.

Though as I said, it seems to be a moot point now since it seems like the author might be losing steam for the story so I’m thinking this’ll be less complicated. Which is fine because I just want QT and SJ to live happily ever after. Which according to the future shots, they will.