XDDD, I know thosec cases might not happen, I just give examples for the point I'm proving XDDDDD.

I meant the second example was a little off XD but nevertheless they were a good example to prove your point XD thanks for entertaining my butting in lol

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ahhh now I feel like butting in as well XD lol

Sumin chooses to be with Sungji in the end but Sungji chooses to leave in the end? yeah it (them getting together) won't happen..The mutual-ness (i know this word doesn't technically exist but please bear with me XD) of the feeling is important
Sumin chooses to be with Seju in the end but Sungji chooses not to let go in the end? then sungji's just in denial...it's not strictly a pre-requisite for it to "not happen"
Sumin chooses to be with Seju in the end but Seju chooses to let go in the end? it won't happen as well

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Or TG can use a classic kdrama technique: hit by a car and lose memory.

I sure hope not! XD that's taking the easy way out LOL

not necessarily, I think you will have to read it as jigsaw puzzle as what Foxy lady would describe it.

Another one is 27 and 55. I love how Gaji did this...how everything is not always linear...
The concept of hindsight..you won't know until later when you look back..even though it has already happened..

I should have asked her who's my Indonesian gf before she's gone. lol

Aww now the mystery is never going to be resolved XD

It looks like the two of you are speaking completely different languages XD

a twist if sumin wants to go back from when before she is falling in love with sungji, lmao.... last chapter, sumin has admitted what she has done wrong to seju, but she can't take responsibility (since she has sungji now) It won't be this complicated if there is no third person. What sumin did now is feeling apologize for both of the girls

That's also a possibility XD..although I think Sumin falling for Sungji was what she truly needed at the time. It was good for her. Ironically, without it, Sumin probably won't even have that conversation with Seju..

Es0teric, I don't know which is worse..believing that we are secular when it is only an illusion, or not believing in secularity at all (which is what's happening in some places). It's much harder to change when we don't think there's anything wrong with what we're doing..X.X

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Seju: let's start over
Sumin: you and I both must've wanted to turn back time at one point or another. But I don't think that's possible now. Even if I wanted to go back, it's not the time we're both thinking about.

that's because throughout the Manhwa you know that Sumin want's the past back. But for Seju, she want's to start over and make things better.. They are looking into two different time horizons.

Nora, I think it's true that Seju wants to move forward (regardless of what had happened between them). This scene also made me think about a scene a few chapters before this (chapter 54) when Sumin said she loves Sungji but added "then what am I supposed to do if I want to go back to you", to which Seju replied "Then all you have to do is just come back to me" which ties in nicely with what you said about how Seju " doesn't care about what happened in the past 10 years and won't avenge Sumin for it".

However, when Sumin said " you and I both must've wanted to turn back time at one point or another. But I don't think that's possible now. Even if I wanted to go back, it's not the time we're both thinking about "
Sumin is making presumptions that Seju also wants to go back (by the word "**back**" I am taking this literally to mean in the past), in this case:

1. If Seju just wants to move forward and how the past has unfolded does not matter anymore to her, there is technically no need for her to go back to the past..she already has the present and she can choose what she wants to do with it..(but then again when Sumin said that, I think it was just her perception - we don't know what Seju really thinks)
2. To me, what is interesting here is then: to which timepoint in the past Sumin wants to go back to and to which time point in the past she thinks Seju wants to go back to?

For Sumin: to before the two of them meet? to before she started her 10 years quest for revenge? to before she agreed to let Seju do whatever she wants before they really cut it off (which led to Sungji breaking up with Sumin)?

For Seju (in the eyes of Sumin): to before the bartender incident? to before Hello Studio hire Sungji?

If we know the answers to both, they would be very telling.
I wonder if Seju really thinks hiring Sungji was a mistake (just that at the point she hired Sungji she thought it was the right decision)...I wonder if this is also what Seju was referring to when she said "You don't know. That's why it's called a mistake"..as if also to say that some things may be fated/ is inevitable..because even when you think you think you are doing the right thing, that may end up being the wrong thing and by the time you realise this, it had already happened..(in fact, maybe it even needed to happen before you can realise it)..

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I don't want her to move on since I'm pretty sure her life will be worse if she does.

Sia ue
Because Sumin is still in love with her? Isn't there something sad about not moving on/not being able to move on when the person you love has moved on (hypothetically speaking since Sumin probably has not)?

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I am actually a fish in disguise. Mystery beyond the water surface roused my curiosity and desire. One day I took a leap of faith, that was how I died.

Lol welcome to the world above water. If you take another leap of faith I wonder where you'll end up

No, that's not the important sentence. The most important one is "Sumin is not bad but the relationship to Seju is very bad".

Ohhhhhhh! I thought that part was your comment and not part of the quote on the tweet.. Lol no wonder I was confused!

That implies Seju should move on from the relationship xD. Which honestly I dont like either xD.

Considering your bet, you have such conflicting feelings XD lol

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If you are a 2D creature on a piece of paper, the concept of volume and depth (3D) can be mind-boggling (and even unbelievable), there isn't even a way to prove (or disprove) the existence of depth. I don't know if I would call this sexy but there is something very humbling about this. I suppose this means that even when I know I don't believe in something I can't ever truly trust what I believe or don't believe to be right/ the ultimate truth. The ground we are walking on is hardly ever solid. Maybe there is something depressing about that. But then again maybe there's beauty in that -after all isn't that what faith is all about -having conviction even in absence of proof?

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The day when this chap was out, she retweet a tweet from a fellow lezhin artist I think, this tweet contained picture of Seju and Sumin's past of the chap and that person's comment about that chap.
And basically, that tweet said: just like how Sumin said have a nice dream, Seju really did have a nice dream. However that nice dream is about the time when she was spending with Sumin and that makes it more tragic. Its not like Sumin is bad, but it seems this relationship is very bad for Seju
Well, this seems to be not a encourage message at all for those who believes in SejuxSumin's ending at all xDDDD.

Yoonie can you explain your train of thought?
Isn't there two possibilities in this case :

(1) if we are taking it at face value I.e. Sumin told Seju to have a nice dream and she did have a nice dream, instead of a nightmare - > which doesn't really hint any particular ending
(2) if the sentence meant Sumin told Seju to have a nice dream and Seju did have a nice dream I.e. That it was just that..A dream and is not /won't be a reality

What makes you think it is scenario (2) rather than (1)?

You read too much rulebook for arguments XD LOL

Haha it's okay. Understand

That is true lol what do you think foxy lady work as?

if you say so.. but then you also give up more energy that necessary.. if that applies on other life aspect.. so, research and philosophy are areas in which this tendency could be productive.

I'm a scientist so overthinking is good.. Sometimes your whole thesis depends on it XD lol

Ahahaha "the idiot guy came and deny it irresponsibly" I love the subtlety XD moderator onezhan will approve lol

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hehehe.. do you get what we were saying hehe.. sometimes even I would lose track XD "semantics, Norah"

Lol sometimes I do sometimes I don't but regardless of how it goes, when she goes "semantics, Norah" on you I will sit up straight and pay attention XD lol

Lol you see this is why I thought she knew you in real life... Like She knows your name norah (should come with a H lol)

Photographic memory X.x exams must be such a breeze for you! Lol

But you know if and when the two of you are discussing.. I think I wouldn't butt in either.. It's time for reading.. Not talking XD lol

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Lol how did you remember the page number?? Do you have photographic memory? XD
Hahaha it does sound romantic...
And It's cute to see actually... "semantics, norah" XD Lol!

Oh I found the forum as I was googling it.. I didn't read the entire thread but your comments and foxy lady's comments very interesting.. I was only reading it in the beginning and only recently I registered. This is the only forum I've encountered where I feel like partaking..

The others are just too full of mumbo jumbo

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Ahahaha do you know foxy lady in real life? (if you do.. Is she a scary person? XD Hahaha ah and I sort of assumed she's a she).. Sounds like you know each other for a long time..

About milk...I'm lactose intolerant Lol ah but I love it still.. I suppose in a rather masochistic way

Maybe.. The solution is.. To drink more green tea tmr XD

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Lol this is not cute.. This is zombifying Lol I'm going to be all black faced at work tmr

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Ah somewhere in Europe... I live in the future XD.. It's 4am and I'm having insomnia because of green tea x.x

Ah but let's not blame green tea. Green tea brings me to this forum lol

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What time is it where you are? I'm actually running on (well this isn't going to sound very glamorous lol).. Green tea... =.=