It's actually already been brought up here:
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/a_room_for_two_ch39#2
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/a_room_for_two_ch39#3

Yeah, that was the one time. That's why I said "The subject had appeared before only once in 54 chapters." It was that time.

Why'd you have to skip the most important line?

Sakurako wants to be the birthgiver.

That was what I was getting at. It's not Kasumi who is supposed to get preggars, but Saku.

You'll settle for Red Bull and like it!

Oof. You drive a hard bargain. At least it's not Monster, I suppose.

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^I think the idea is that there is no other pairing in the series, so a tag would be pointless.

It's unfair to compare two things when it all comes down to personal taste.

Certainly, if it was only about rating them based on preference there is not much point arguing. So it goes with subjective topics.

But saying you can't compare them is a bit much. You even did it yourself just now. There are similar aspects present in both series, so naturally you can compare them. The important thing is that you can't tell the other person they can't like or prefer what they want to.

YagaKimi and Citrus have different strengths, but I think whether one is a fan of one or both, there are points that can be agreed on in regards to structure and plot elements being used. Symbolism, foreshadowing, characterization, use of tropes etc etc. Those things can be objectively compared.

So... this?

Well that was unecessarily disturbing.

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Whether this feud continues here or elsewhere, or doesn't continue at all, I think I would've been leaning towards @BugDevil's side, if not, then ACTUALLY on their side.

Calling it a "feud" is really not helping the situation BVster. People interpret way too much antagonism into our little discussion here. It's just a friendly talk about YagaKimi and its contemporaries. Even if I disagree with 90% of matsuri_wins opinions, she at lest has a sense of humor about it.

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Consider:

They are suddenly discussing kids, over and over. If Sakurako wants kids, what kinda kids they would be, how Kasumi's old friends from school now have kids, whether Sakurako can invent science babies... The subject had appeared before only once in 54 chapters, now for some reason the mangaka is making them broach the subject all the time.

It's actually already been brought up here:
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/a_room_for_two_ch39#2
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/a_room_for_two_ch39#3

Sakurako wants to be the birthgiver.

Oh dear.
Is this a giant flag I'm seeing?

Oh, Kasumi, what have you been doing when Sakurako wasn't watching?

The only thing in Kasumi's belly is a food baby.

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Don’t get me wrong, I am fully aware YagaKimi is higher quality plot-wise, though in my opinion not in character development (Citrus characters feel more like real people IMO, as though they are real people thrown into a badly written soap opera scenario).

But to me personally it’s like when you have a greasy burger or Chinese fried rice vs some sophisticated meal, you know the latter is better and healthier but the first is still more fun.

You don't meet a whole lot of real people, do ya? I am joking
If you wanted to say character archetypes... then maaaybe? But character development? Come on. Citrus has about as much character development as Flash Gordon Volume 223 (a static character who doesn't change). Yuu's or Touko's character development are leagues above all of Citrus cast combined.

Wow, just dunking on fried rice there! There are some highly rated Chinese restaurants that serve fried rice better than you could ever imagine.

Also the only reason to eat a greasy burger rather than some well prepared dish is expense and effort. If you could eat 5 star meals for free and without waiting time, you'd do it, don't lie. There is nothing exciting about fast food, aside from clogged arteries I guess lol

By crazy I mean: difficult girl who shows love-hate behaviour towards her love interest, which you can tolerate only due to the fact she is hot af lol

That's why you tolerated her. What did we say about generalizing your point of view as the standard?

Not to say I don't enjoy Citrus or it's spin-off. The quality is just not comparable.

Agreed. Except the character art, where Citrus truly excels.

Art is subjective so whatever. Citrus' art was way more expressive in the early chapters, now it looks pretty plastic to me. YagaKimi thrives on subtlety and cuteness.

PS: Don't ignore poor @skulll. Nezchan is bored of our match-ups here, so mix it up, will ya?

---

You two wanna spar, do it in the ring. On pay per view. With the proceeds going into my account.

Only if you sponsor me.

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Lol old man?

Well ofc it’s just my opinion, some people need stronger drugs than others to get the high and the crash lol For me YagaKimi feels like a walk around the park because it’s too consistent and not intense enough. The characters are basically good people whose actions are highly predictable. Also a lack of steamy scenes.

Mind you, Citrus+ has also become like that but at least it’s somewhat comedic. I much preferred the series when Mei was still a hot crazy girl lol Those were the times!

It's a meme. Don't worry about it.

You can have consistently well written drama, ya know? Becoming bad all of a sudden is not a good way to have ups and downs. Characters don't need to be bad to have flaws or conflict. (Your usual focus on the physical has been noted)
I want you to tell me that you read chapter 34 completely able to predict what would happen. And weren't you in particular constantly predicting that Touko would have a side-fling with Sayaka? Pfff.

Citrus+ is more stable, sure... it also has much less substance than even OG Citrus. Mei was never crazy. Her actions all made sense in the context of her characterization and were actually super predictable once you recognized Saburo Uta's pattern. It's not like she was particularily subtle.
Not to say I don't enjoy Citrus or it's spin-off. The quality is just not comparable.

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It is definitely overrated but it’s not bad either. It’s like a kind of walk that you go to
and has pretty scenery but has no ups and downs. No excitement and no disappointments.

It’s the opposite of “roller coaster” series like Citrus, that can give you high highs and low lows due to variability of writing quality.

Haven't we already educated you on this before? How many times do you need to be taught this lesson old man?

In all seriousness, your view is totally skewed. YagaKimi has plenty of ups and downs. Whether you care for them or not is up to you, but don't pretend they aren't there. They just happen to be intentional and not a result of inconsistent writing.

A rollercoaster that goes only downhill 90% of the time (Citrus) is also not very exciting. Rather predictable, ain't it? Oh it's gonna go down? And then it's gonna go down? Wow, I wonder when it will go down again.
You get the point.

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Kid would be taking care of Kasumi, because mama is too lazy.

We tend to forget it because we don't often actually see her doing it, but Kasumi can be a hard worker when she needs to be.

While I can definitely see Kasumi pulling through when it matters or when she is in a good mood, we need to consider that as long as Sakurako is around she will not have to lift a finger. Kasumi is self-sufficient only when Saku isn't taking care of everything.
Though she is not good with annoying things, so I can see her being especially suicidal when a baby cries all night lol

So as a parent, Kasumi would probably be the one spoiling the kids or saying "It's fine, right?". As long as her wife teaches them manners, she will be alright.

Hah. Now I imagine Saku feeding the baby with a bottle of milk and Kasumi lying next to her and staring jealously until Saku stuffs one into her mouth too.

Or perhaps she's not using a bottle.

Let's just say Sakurako doesn't look like the breastfeeding type.

Kid would be taking care of Kasumi, because mama is too lazy.

Nah, she is going to fight the kids for Sakurako attention

Hah. Now I imagine Saku feeding the baby with a bottle of milk and Kasumi lying next to her and staring jealously until Saku stuffs one into her mouth too.

Random question: can any of you even imagine Kasumi taking care of a baby?

Nope. We all know who would be responsible for the kids.

Thank you, @BugDevil.
No matter how close or far into the future my death is, I want this video you linked to to be the last video I watch before I die.
If for no other reason, then just so I could die happily.

I'm sorry for ever doubting that you were capable of understanding hyperbole.
You're welcome tho.

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Alcohol as the central theme without NSFW? I'm impressed at the self-control!
This was sweeter than any plum wine~

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It's nice to see actual insight on why their relationship is free of conflict. Saku is just doing everything without question. Kasumi's iiving the high life...

Sakurako as a counselor, huh? I'm not too sure about that. She's got the open personality, but her common sense in matters of relationships is a bit skewed haha

The only reason to get married is for legal benefits. Sakurako's got that right lol

Wow the having children thing came back full swing this time around. Even if Saku doesn't become a mad scientist, the iPS cell research will probably have a breakthrough in a decade or two. They just need to wait a bit longer. I understand why Saku wants super babies from their superior genes, but adopted kids is also an option.

I just noticed that its been liscenced now does it mean Dynasty wont be uploading fiture chapters?

It's been licensed for over half a year now. Dynasty has not moved yet.

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^The phrase is apparently not related to baseball, so I guess that was on me.

Yeah that was definitely subspace for Hino.

Both are switches in reality. Perfect for lesbian relationships.

Honestly subspace is really nice. The power to enter it is vastly different than the power to induce it in others.

However, first off, y'all either need a sub or to be a sub. Without a submissive, subspace doesn't exist!

Sexual trance or getting lost in passion is not something unusual, nor limited to Dom/Sub relationships though.
Why is it better for lesbians than anybody else?

That aside, I still think that's just the artist's way to show arousal/embarassment. You are kinda diluting the actual thing by applying it to everything that makes the characters look dazed...

I am sure you can interpret Koguma's reactions that way, but Hino? Nah.

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^I think it's the softness of their faces. You can really feel the affection.

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Wow. That might be the prettiest Marisa I have ever seen.

A headpat for the loser. My condolences Sayaka, you will find happiness too.

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During the long wait, why don't you check out this YagaKimi video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwq5SIrziF8
Same creator who made that other brilliant MMV. This time the anime is interwoven. I am simply speechless at all the colored panels and the brilliant editing.

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Don't you love it when someone hires a criminal to kidnap you so you can have a talk with your acquaintance instead of just calling them?

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A cat plushie for you.
A hug for Yuu.