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We're not criticizing the manga for anything here, and I'm not sure were you even got that from. I've already stated that the idea that girl's can't enjoy "guy things" is just plainly false and hypocritical even. But there shouldn't be anything wrong with asking question's about what other people thought about it, and why they thought that. It just sort of deteriorated in a typical internet flame war.
I didn't read entire thread when I replied, so I only read it now. Well you do focus on how skirts are too short and how it is intended for male gaze and how it has pointless fanservice, so you pretty clearly criticize it. Even saying that characters are bland and lack personalities and that story is copy past every story ever. I just find that entire focus on intended audience pointless for any real discussion. Maybe not specifically you, but others pretty much chastised this manga for being too male targeted. If anyone can like anything, then why so many people still are so bended over classifying for who the manga was made for?
EDIT/ And that happens a lot on dynasty. Work being classified as "for males" and putting entire criticism on that fact.
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The skirt was very short. I'm fine with it, and I found this manga pretty inoffensive in general. Characters in manga and comics can pull off certain fashion choices that look silly or embarrassing in the real world.
No! It means they are sluts!
(I'm female and I don't mind those skirts in the slightest. Skirts that short are basically common place in manga since forever. Who I am to judge how much they want to reveal their legs and [apparent lack of] panties [seriously that is some saki lvl shit])
We weren't judging anime girls fashion choices on weather or not that makes the characters sluts or not. It was about the author and weather or not skirts were intended for male gaze. (´-ω-`)
I know and I'm honestly sick of it. Most people act like those "male targeted yuri" stuff is somehow hurting industry or something. You don't like it? Cool, but don't go out of your way to bash it on every occasion. Sure it is written more with male audience in mind and often has some questionable fanservice. I don't like all of them, but it doesn't mean I can't enjoy some. Like this one, it was pretty harmless one shot fluff and you guys tear it apart because of too short skirts and some panty shots. It gets boring after a while when entire criticism boils down to whatever it was intended for "male gaze" or not and if it was, then you can just blame everything that is wrong with work on it. And the entire "male gaze" thing is also getting pretty annoying. As if males had some different gaze than lesbians or something. Like only they can want to see and enjoy some flashing panties etc. I know more realistic and grounded stories that showcase real lesbians are good, since we don't have a lot of them, but it doesn't mean you can't read something less serious with silly fanservice once in a while. And if you didn't like it, you can always make fun of it (seriously I bet they watch Saki in free time). Anyway, it's not like if we get less male targeted yuri, it will somehow increase the amount of "real" yuri and even if it uses cheap tricks to encourage guys to read it, it is still good, because if they end up liking it they might get more into yuri and start seeking those more serious stories and when more people will get into them, then there will be more reason to write those more serious series. So in short, there is no harm in them.
The skirt was very short. I'm fine with it, and I found this manga pretty inoffensive in general. Characters in manga and comics can pull off certain fashion choices that look silly or embarrassing in the real world.
No! It means they are sluts!
(I'm female and I don't mind those skirts in the slightest. Skirts that short are basically common place in manga since forever. Who I am to judge how much they want to reveal their legs and [apparent lack of] panties [seriously that is some saki lvl shit])
Not really yuri, is it?
Demonstrated physical attraction between girls along with the intimate themes? I'd certainly call it Yuri
2 girls in the same room count as yuri.
@Nezchan
Why can people keep spamming replies like "no body cares" but I can't say it's wrong to publish things with a ~50% accuracy rate?
Because having some translation is better than having no translation. If it annoys you so much, go ahead and do a proper
translation for it instead of complaining. If you say you don't have time for it then shut up.
Looking for this manga that I can't quite remember the name of. The love interest was a girl who's went through many boyfriends and the MC falls for her after witnessing her crying after a breakup. They get together after the girl finds her name written in green ink on the MC's eraser.
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/between_philia_and_eros_ch01
It says "Homosexual Activity" carries death penalty. So if she haven't done anything of the sort then she is still safe.
Well she said she is coming out both as gay and atheist, so even if she didn't do any "gay" activities, the atheism part is still a pretty huge blow ;/
We have three possibilities:
1) One of the sister is the culprit.
2) Mother is the culprit.
3) Hana is just making this as an excuse to kiss her sisters (Tho this begs the question if she already knew that her sisters would compete to kiss her).You're not thinking five-dimensionally, and as a result you missed some possibilities:
4) Hana covertly kissed one of her sisters and and is accusing her sisters to draw attention away from her own act.
5) Hana passionately kissed herself and is attempting to pin the crime on her family members.
6) An unknown sixth person kissed Hana and she merely assumed it was one of her sisters.
7) Hana was kissed by an unknown sixth person and is leveraging the opportunity to manipulate her sisters into competing to kiss her.
8) The mother is blackmailing Hana and is just making this up as an excuse for Hana to kiss her sisters.
9) Hana is blackmailing her mother to make up a story so that she would have the opportunity to kiss her sisters.
10) Hana and her mother mutually agreed to make up a story that would serve as an excuse for Hana to kiss her sisters.
11) Hana kissed the mother, and the mother, being the wise matriarch that she is, compromised with Hana and made up the story to steer Hana romantically away from her, towards her sisters.You're forgetting the possibility of a Murder on the Orient Express situation- they're actually all culprits, and every one of them kissed her.
It's all a dream.
don't just come out and say that she's dead.
Thanks to what I heard about Muslims, that is sadly the first thing that comes to mind.
Just because she still hasn't responded yet doesn't mean that things went badly
Well since it is clash between atheism, homosexuality and Islam, it's a likely outcome.
, I think means that she's currently sorting things out with her parents,
I hope that is the case, because alternative is inhuman.
saying that she's probably dead is really cynical and it means that you gave up on her.
Maybe for you. For me all it means is that she might got killed. Also I don't get where the cynicism came from, since Muslims killing gays and people who reject Islam is a thing that happens, so I'm just looking at it objectively. She did mention her parents are teachers of religion. But even if not worse case scenario, I still think her not writing anything here yet, means the situation doesn't look good.
I wrote, that I'm serious, because I was afraid someone might think I wrote it as a joke. The sole fact that because of some religion, I could wrote something like that in the first place as possible outcome is already plenty disturbing.
She is probably dead (I'm serious)
That's a real shitty thing to say.
Not really if you know anything about Muslims and how they treat their religion. You can get killed for being gay or trying to reject Islam.
It's more of the fact that a person who's in need of help reaches out to a community where she feels safe and asks for support. Then you come and say that we should give up on her because she's probably dead. It's just a flat out shit thing to say.
Em, I never said that? I only replied to Rohan question based on the fact she still didn't wrote here yet, that things most likely didn't go well. I'm more than eager to support her, but it's kinda hard, when person in question is not writing here.
I didn't heard from that Muslim girl who was going to confront her parents.
Hope she is alright :(
She is probably dead (I'm serious)
That's a real shitty thing to say.
Not really if you know anything about Muslims and how they treat their religion. You can get killed for being gay or trying to reject Islam.
I guess "happier" version would be she got beat into submission and as a punishment can't use internet, that gives such "wrong" ideas.
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Like I said, a way to get one of her sister to actually kiss her, which seems to be effective considering how three of them instantly jumped at the chance while the fourth only refrain 'cause she'd rather watch. :p
"mmh, I want to be kissed by one of my sis but it's embarassing to go and ask, they might think I'm a pervert... Oh, I know, I'll pretend one already did and that the culprit should out herself and give me another one !"
Right. But this will end with her getting a kiss from each (assuming this is her aim) and no future development in the sibling's relationship. Which is not mochi's style imo.
We have three possibilities:
1) One of the sister is the culprit.
2) Mother is the culprit.
3) Hana is just making this as an excuse to kiss her sisters (Tho this begs the question if she already knew that her sisters would compete to kiss her).The most likely one (in your opinion) is ___?
Why do you guys overanalyze 4 page comedy manga? The joke was that all of them want to kiss Hana. That is it. Whatever there is a culprit or not, is not a point. There is really no need to look for realistic motivation and how story would continue from here.
I didn't heard from that Muslim girl who was going to confront her parents.
Hope she is alright :(
She is probably dead (I'm serious)
I think it was Kuki, she admits it while the others think about whether they did it or not.
On page to she's the only one who is just embarassed and turns red.
We see her thoughts saying it wasn't her.
I believe that was her wishing not to be called out for doing it.
Isn't the joke that all 4 of them immediately admits they did it the second they heard they can kiss Hana if they are the culprit? (I know that 1 prefers to watch, but she still thinks kissing would be nice as well)
Yeah, none of of the girls are intended to be implied over the others. Kuki reacted differently due to her unique personality, not because she necessarily was the culprit
If anything her straight admitting it was the funniest part.
I think it was Kuki, she admits it while the others think about whether they did it or not.
On page to she's the only one who is just embarassed and turns red.
We see her thoughts saying it wasn't her.
I believe that was her wishing not to be called out for doing it.
Isn't the joke that all 4 of them immediately admits they did it the second they heard they can kiss Hana if they are the culprit? (I know that 1 prefers to watch, but she still thinks kissing would be nice as well)
I never could get into their NSFW, but this one was surprisingly funny and cute. Yea, at least one follow up would be great.
Lol it was great xD I loved that not only Hana wanted second one, but all sisters immediately jumped at chance to kiss her x3 Also when I read title first time, I was confused because I thought it was Tamamusi's one, but reuploaded for some reason, so I thought it was just better translation or something.
More to the point, you want the publishers to know that they can make money off of yuri.
Yea, that is the issue. If you don't buy something because of poor quality, all it will tell publisher is "it doesn't sell" and can actually have opposite effect of them releasing less.
Pretty sure it's originally from The Tick. He was fighting some ninjas (as one does) and commented "I don't understand your crazy moon language".
Sounds like something Tick would do. Man I miss it, that cartoon was awesome!
SPOON!
If Kobalos wants to limit their argument to facts from the manga, then I suggest they not start discussing how being a sperm donor who is involved with the resulting child's life has no greater meaning than that of any other genetic relative like a niece.
It was just a example and pretty good one, because that is what Kou agreed to. At best he will be just like a uncle that babysit his niece. Again it is you who keep bringing the whole biological parent bond as a argument that somehow changes everything. Kou doesn't posses any desire to be a father and is willing to be just a glorificated babysitter. He doesn't plan to treat child as his, so I really don't get why you insist on shoehorning in the genetics and insisting that being blood related is all that matters and it makes Kou's relation to child somehow more important, even if he himself doesn't see it that way. And making Michael's insistent of being involved into child's live even more ridiculous, when even Kou doesn't see himself as child's father.
And when they actually limit their arguments to facts from the manga, I won't then respond by discussing how there's a little more to that relationship than that, and thus a little more to Michael's issue than him taking advantage of Kou's agreement to babysit a niece that is just a niece and nothing more to pressure him.
Michael is the only one that makes it more complicated than it really is.
No, he has no rights whatsoever for a child.
And nowhere did I indicate that he did.
Here for one example.
He's insisting on being a parent to his partner's child because he wants to be a father and its his partner's child
He wants to be a father and it's his partner child (even though Kou agreed to not claim it) and that somehow gives him right to demand both him and Kou are more involved into rising it than Kou agreed and had no problems with.
No, but then I wouldn't compare the desire to have a child and the existence of the literal child you want to the desire to have a mortgaged house. For one there's the emotional weight to it all that apparently doesn't exist because why would you ever be emotionally invested in having a child with your partner, and then there's the difference between "I'm no ready for a kid" and "we can't afford a house." One's a state of financial reality and the other's a personal view on the status of their life and their willingness to start a family. I swapped them around a few times so it's a puzzle to tell which one's which.
Ok you are being so dishonest right now, though you were already pretty dishonest to begin with. I tried to explain it to you in simple terms, but I see any metaphor just bounces off you. The point was, it's not Kou's child and definitely not Michael's. You talk about emotional weigh, then maybe take under consideration that Kou himself might not be ready to have a child? That is maybe the reason he can so easily not think much about being a sperm donor who is a babysitter sometimes? Michael never asked him about it, because only thing that matters to him is his desire to have a child. Just because kid exist, it doesn't mean Michael is one to take it and doesn't mean he has any rights to bitch about it. Sure, he wants it, it has his partners DNA, so what? Kou gave his sperm so some couple can have a child. When he will actually feel like rising a kid with his partner, I'm sure he will then adopt or find a way to make one so they can rise it together. It really comes off as Michael doesn't care about Kou at all and only care about having a kid, no matter what it takes. Unless somehow Michael owns Kou's sperm and have rights to anything that comes from it, it's not his child and he doesn't get to decided what happens with it. As far as I'm concerned he is just trying to steal someones kid.
Good to know that taking issue with your partner fathering a child that he gets to be involved with to some degree but who you will always be separate from even though it is literally the thing you want makes you a bad partner who throws tantrums.
Kou is not fathering it. He is not a parent. At best he will just babysit it from time to time. He is not responsible of rising it in any way. For all intentions and purposes it is like looking over someone else child from time to time and it's definitely not Michael's child in any shape or form. So if for him it equals to his partner having a child and he wants to be more involved into rising it, then yes, he is throwing a tantrum. Again, you keep insisting Kou will be a father and will have more prominent role, when it was explicitly said, he has no desires to and is perfectly fine being there just from time to time when it's convenient.
Though maybe if they didn't want to have to deal with the complicated issues of involving the sperm donor in the child's life, going against all good sense, entitled jerks like Michael wouldn't show up and ask to be included in the complicated mess they want to bring his partner into and to have a more meaningful role than honorary babysitter.
The rules are clear for both sides and nobody has issues with them. The only person who has problem and is making it more complicated than necessary is Michael, which is clearly only driven by his desire to have a child and because of that he is acting entitled and selfish. If anything he is jerk, because he wants to use the situation for his gains, ignoring his partner's intention. He turned Kou's good will into hell for mothers and child. Even if he would succeed would it be really what he wants? Would it be what Kou wants? They would have to parent the child as a four and not only it would make bigger mess with kid having 2 moms and 2 dads, there would be the issue of sharing kid's time equally. It might fulfill Michael's desire to have a child temporary but in long run its nowhere near the thing he actually wants. You almost suggest that since Kou is biological father and Michael wants kids, they should just take child and rise it together, totally ignoring Kou's agreement with couple. Because Michael wants a child and can't stand that his partner decided to do a good deed and share his sperm to help other homosexual couple. Which would be both totally asshole thing to do to couple as well totally ignoring whatever Kou actually wants a child right now.
No, it's not irrelevant. Turns out people have emotions and form strong bonds with children. The only one insisting on a single determining factor here is you, as you continue to do nothing but completely dismiss the relationship between all sorts of parents and their children. I never said adoptive parents are less parents than biological (this entire thing started with a discussion of Michael, who wouldn't be the biological father after all) nor that biological parents have the right to the legal and social title of parent. What I did say is that it's not some simple, easy process of never ever forming emotional connections with children that are stronger than the one's you're supposed to based on an agreement you made with your friends (or your partner's friends) and nothing else.
Ok it starts getting hard to read. Kobalos gives you facts from manga that Kou doesn't want to be child's father and is perfectly willing to act like distant uncle. And yet you are now suggesting Kobalos is using some general, made up examples to explain their point. You talk how bond between biological father and child is so strong, important and not easy to erase. Nobody denies it, but in case of Kou he himself said he doesn't want to be child's father, so he himself doesn't feel any strong bond. Sure he can change his mind later etc. cos biology, but right now he has no desire to be anything more than a occasional babysitter. So yea, you are the one that keeps on dismiss how things look in actual manga and instead base it on your viewpoint trying to insert feelings that were not show in manga, as something that is factual.
I'm annoyed because someone who can't even understand why Michael might have an issue is kind of annoying. It's not that you disagree, it's that you've just decided that anyone who disagrees with you is just being wholly unreasonable and has no logic to their position. Imagine seeing something you really want, like a life goal of yours that will form a major piece of your future. Then imagine that your partner wants to come into possession of such a thing and then immediately gives it away to someone else right in front of you. I would hope that you could understand why you might have some issue or frustration with such a situation.
No, he has no rights whatsoever for a child. You are ignoring the crucial point that Kou was asked to give sperm so couple can have a child. It's not like he made a child randomly and then give it away to someone who asked, despite his partner wanting to have child. He is doing a favor and without doing it, he wouldn't have means to have a kid anyway. Kou is not giving child away to spite Michael. Imagine you want to buy a house and live with your partner in it, but you don't have money for it. Then your partner's friends decided to buy a house for themselves and took a loan, but they needed someone to back up for them in case they can't pay it off, so your partner agreed to it. Would you then go and say that you have right to live in the house because you are partially involved into making it? That is the same case here. They could ask for anyone's sperm. Kou agreed to it and agreed to not be a child's parent or involved more than necessary. So his bf from all people has no right to the child, because it's not theirs. Sure, he can be angry etc. but he really has no rights to and throwing a tantrum over it, actually make him pretty self-centered and not a good partner to be with. If anything, he is the one who doesn't understand the situation at all and is so set on having a child he is dismissing everything else to match his needs. He is just acting entitled. Also he is the one who has strong bond with the child, despite not even being biological father, which kinda beautifully destroys your entire argument.
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It's people like Nevri that make my desire to scanlate (and translate this series) waver.
https://my.mixtape.moe/psnfzu.jpg
So obnoxious
Rotfl. Seriously stop it or I'll die of laugher xD I pointed out your mistake and now you go on a rant and use dropping scanlation as a shield XD? No wonder you knew how much I posted since you tl it so of course you were keeping a eye on the thread. Now who is the obsessive one I wonder.
So for you if anyone make any mistake
Cheating, sleeping around and being a shallow low life is a choice, not a mistake. You are accountable for your actions.
You are so funny Conqclub. Despite what you said in other thread, you couldn't not reply to me, so you made new account to not lose face? Now who is the one with big ego xD
You're just obsessive.
Said the person who counted my posts in thread XD
It's like Hirari. And you sure have a lot of posts in this thread.
It isn't. It's released every 3 months. I know because I paid for it. First issue was in february and second in may. I have no idea what my number of posts has to do with anything. Also good to know you failed to notice the irony.
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