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Nene
Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

Yesterday, I didn't even know this manga existed. I saw chapter 6 was out and thought: "Hm? I don't remember ever reading the 5 previous chapters. Gotta give this a try." So I started reading from chapter 1.

Gosh, am I happy I did!!! This story pushes all my right buttons. Natsume-Kaoru is such a gorgeous peach! The way she rocks the traditional Japanese look (kimono, obi, flowers in her hair) is amazing. It's not often that a mangaka draws a beauty in a kimono and makes her look so stunningly sexy. I'm so jealous of Maki, she's, like, the luckiest chick in the world! (I'll shamelessly admit it: I was immersing myself in the story as Maki all along. Actually, that's probably the right way of reading it as the author intended, haha.)

The happy happy ending is a welcome bonus, too. ^_^v Chapter 5 ended on a sad note, good thing chapter 6 fixed everything! I really couldn't picture this story concluding in any other way but with Natsume-Kaoru and Maki getting together as a real couple. ♡

Btw, it's very unusual for a relatively short story like this one to get 20 pages of comments... it's good to see that, in this forum, quality is appreciated!

Nene
Pink Rush discussion 20 Dec 09:27
Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

Like I said: OTP. ^_^v

Nene
Pink Rush discussion 19 Dec 23:02
Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

These traduction's speed from this manga are really impressive...

Writing from a French-speaking country? ^.^

In any case, you are right about the speed. Praise to the scanlators!

Also, Sana/Maru OTP.

Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

These girls haven't been given names, right? Too bad... we'll have to use nicknames...

I'll go and say it right now: Ponytail is a sadist. >_< Making her girlfriend suffer like that, damn, what does she expect to achieve?

Nene
Still Sick discussion 19 Dec 13:24
Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

Heh, this could have been a chapter of Genshiken.
Talking about all your ex bfs? NOT IN THIS NERDVANA YOU DON'T!
Flirting in the holy zone? YOU ARE FINISHED! KILLER PUNCH!

Little by little, they keep discovering things about each other. Looks like yuri in this story will be a slow build-up. That's a-okay by me. ^.^

Nene
Image Comments 18 Dec 22:02
Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018
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I didn't get the "Hanna/Barbara" "Hannah-Barbera" joke until I read these comments, haha.

Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

There isn't an easy solution that would satisfy everyone. Personally I prefer the second method with exceptions for tags that could be considered warnings. For this particular story I believe Yuri by itself is more appropriate than Bisexual either by itself or together with yuri. Outside of the set-up I don't think we've encountered anything that warrants Bisexual. This doesn't mean that the characters are not bi, but rather that (at least so far) it hasn't been a large element of the story. This is as opposed to, say, Ohana Holoholo which has, and very much deserves, both Yuri and Bisexual tags.

I wish there were more people like you in the forum.

I agree with your evaluation, the tag system needs tuning. Anyone who sees the Bisexual tag and comes here hoping to read a story about a MC in a romantic tangle between a boy and a girl is going to be sorely disappointed. Touno thought about dating a boy (who never appears) for about 3 pages, then discarded the idea. And Saijou never showed interest in anyone but her girlfriend Touno. Actually, as a matter of fact, this thread derailed when a small number of people started pushing the absurd idea that Saijou must be bisexual -- story canon be damned -- and would (to quote one of them) "just want some cock" in the future. I asked them a few times to provide evidence to support their belief, and every time they replied with kindergarten-level tantrums, personal attacks and name-calling. 乁(° ͟ʖ ͠°)ㄏ

Nevri, HellAQA and Bugpope don't seem to realize how offensive it is to assume that any girl in a lesbian relationship will naturally move on to heterosexual trysts in the future. And they claim that anyone who contradicts them is hating on bisexuals. >_< I'm tired of wasting my time with them. In their next post, Nevri (or HellAQA, or Bugpope) must show us some evidence that Saijou Nagisa secretly "wants some cock" (and I mean canon evidence: which page, which panels). If they don't, if they just ramble on about vague and nebulous matters of political correction, if they continue spouting personal attacks at me, I'll assume they are conceding defeat. I'll accept their capitulation and graciously take my victory.

last edited at Dec 19, 2018 4:51PM

Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

Oh ho ho, new chapter? Yatta!

So many things happen, what an intense chapter this is! Fujishiro is a gay mess, as always, and her mood swings crack me up. "How dare they call Kurokawa homely, I'm gonna make her pretty!" "Argh, now everyone thinks she's pretty, NOOO, I wanted her all for me!" I was sure she was going to kiss her when she fixed her makeup, but she chickened out in the end, boo.
And she was so cool at the chapter end. <3 The suspension is really unfair, that dumb teacher has no business calling girl students cute or ugly, that was borderline sekuhara! :-/

Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

Wow, you really are full of it and quick to look down on others. You were so eager to assume they want to fap to her, without realizing Bugpope wasn't even the one who wrote that original post and has no need to defend it or answer your question.

And you were so quick to assume I am unable to follow a simple conversation you didn't even realize I'm arguing against a conjecture, not an individual -- and thus it is a matter of no consequence for the sake of my argument whether a supporter of said conjecture is the original author or someone who jumped on the bandwagon.

By the way, are you also of the persuasion that Saijou Nagisa is romantically or sexually interested in boys? I'm asking because, even though you were very quick to take HellAQA's side and attack me, you haven't provided any evidence either. I'm still waiting for someone, anyone, to explain when and where our Nagisa showed by her words or actions to have an attraction to the opposite gender. All the replies so far have been personal attacks, no factual proofs or elements of corroboration at all.

Whatever you like it or not, it is a fact she wanted to confess and date a guy, so unless it will be elaborated on more later, as far as we know, she is capable of being attracted to both guys and girls, which by definition make her bi.

I'm not convinced. She wrote that letter to a boy, yes, which means we do have evidence that, unlike Nagisa, she was willing to try heterosexual dating. She wrote that letter, then misplaced it and ended up dating a girl -- and, so far, I haven't detected even a hint of a shadow of a feeling of distress about the mistake. In fact, in her own words: "By the time I got back home, I didn't care about Kobayashi-kun at all. All I could think about was Saijou-san." Seriously? She forgot him in a moment, just like that? No heartache over the boy she's supposed to like? No angst? No brooding? No agonizing over which one to choose? This doesn't read bisexual to me. It reads more like: "Girl thinks she must get boyfriend because societal norm says it's the thing to do, but then finds she's gay and happily casts away the dumb notion."

Tho I do understand (unlike with Nagisa) if, in this case, some readers disagree.

Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

Btw, I'm curious as what kind of evidence is the basis for your affirmation that Saijou Nagisa would have been willing to date a boy before this.

Why is labelling people so important to you?

No evidence at all, huh? You just like to imagine her with boys? You want her to be like that, because that's what turns you on?

No surprise, then. It's what I had guessed. Sigh.

Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

Maybe this one doesn't deserve a bisexual tag because the boy's been totally forgotten, but it's important to remember that MC is bi. Just because she's in a wlw relationship doesn't make her a lesbian. In fact, both characters seemed perfectly capable of being in mlw relationships before this. You don't stop being bi when you start dating someone. Just like our girls Korra and Asami.

If you want to tag as bi any and all girls who are not completely and utterly incapable of having sex with a boy -- I mean, all the girls who are capable, when the time comes, to close their eyes and think of England -- then 99,9% of the manga in this Reader are stories about bisexuals.

Btw, I'm curious as what kind of evidence is the basis for your affirmation that Saijou Nagisa would have been willing to date a boy before this.

Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

Huhuhu, look at dem raving comments, six pages of them.

And to think, at the beginning, people were like "yuck, hetero girl, avoid, avoid, put a bisexual tag, geez!"

✧・゚: ✧・゚♡(˵ ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°˵)*♡・゚✧*:・゚✧

Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

We gotta ask though, what the hell was the mom thinking? Is she stupid or just a troll?

What? The daughter asked her how to tell someone "how you feel" in English. Also said she liked this person and it was a secret who it was. Mom obviously thought daughter intended to confess to a crush.

Yeah!!! Everyone should stop blaming it on Mom, geez!

That girl should have asked "How do you say 'Thank you' in English?" -- not how to convey your secret feelings you totally refuse to describe.

('course this wouldn't be a yuri story then...)

Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

Akira is just a sweet transvestite from Transexual, Transylvania. ^.^

Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

Haha, too bad Orie-chan: no hetero for you.

Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

Don't you love those long titles that basically summarize the whole plot?

Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

Here, take this, Miyuu, you'll need it. (gives her a hammer)

Nene
Still Sick discussion 10 Dec 10:27
Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

Yeaaah it's clear now, Maekawa is gonna be TOP.

Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

Wait this is the same author from Nanashi no Asterism, yeah I think I'm dropping this one if it doesn't improve soon, not gonna go through the same clusterfuck again.

Rotflmao.
That's how most people feel about NnA all right. Remember the "classification of love triangles" meme? I don't need to remind you which one of the six basic triangles NnA is, do I?

last edited at Dec 6, 2018 3:17PM

Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

What's with this author and the color yellow? I've seen several stories by Kobayashi Kina where the pages are normal black-and-white pages except that seemingly random spots in seemingly random panels are colored yellow...

I find it weird, too.

Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

I thought this is a yuri website..

It is. Take a look here to confirm it: 475 pages packed tight with the titles of all the yuri manga that can be found in this website.

Now take a look here to find about yaoi ones: 12 pages. Only hand-picked stories that were deemed worthy of our interest because they were especially good.

It should be obvious what sort of website this is.

Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

It says "Prologue" so...

Nene
Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

I agree, it’s not often that we get to see the sexuality of pubescent girls depicted like this. Sure, it can be considered realistic. But I still perceive it as a bit exaggerated, like the cover of this chapter where Blackie is leaning against the fridge looking sexually frustrated and it says, “what exactly is her flushed body yearning for at this moment in time...?” I thought it was rather amusing lol

But assuming that everyone has the same level of sexuality during pubescence isn’t realistic. Not everyone is constantly horny and/or sexually frustrated, I wasn’t. In fact, my hormones never suddenly erupted into my bloodstream. It was more gradual and slow paced :p

Ah, but this manga does not assume that everyone has the same level of sexuality during pubescence. Look carefully: Hoshihara, Usa-pyon and Miki are very different characters. Hoshihara is very horny and masturbates often, Usa is very horny but didn't know about the other use of a showerhead until Hoshihara showed her, and Miki... well, we don't know much about her yet, but she obviously makes a point of always keeping a cool facade (whatever may lay behind, that's open to debate).

It's the same for Ayame 14 that was mentioned earlier in the thread: Ayame, Sango, Kagari and Shinobu (and Fukuyama) are all at their most horny time of adolescence, but react to it in different ways. That's a big part of what makes the story so realistic and enjoyable. I'd say it's a point in common that these two series have.

Nene
Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

Why does people keep saying "loli, loli" as if this was a loli manga?

These girls are the same age as the Sailor Senshi in the first season of Sailor Moon. They are anything but lolis.

If you don't get it, let me put it in simpler terms: ChibiUsa is a loli; Usagi is not a loli, she's a teenager. All the girls in this manga are teens as well, just like Usagi, Rei or Ami. It's not that difficult.

A loli needs to be prepubescent, short (notoriously so) and with a child body (no curves). A young woman who looks the part (happens often in manga) is a loli-looking woman, not a real loli. Sometimes, just for the fun, an author will make a loli go through a precocious growth spur -- ie, she's still a loli but gets big boobs -- but these cases are quite rare.

All MCs in Skeeter Rabbit are thirteen (perhaps more) making them legal. They can have all the lesbian whoopee they want.

Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

Just rediscovered this one by pure luck. I loved it the first time I read it, and I still love it now. <3 Okazaki Mari is such a great author.