I just noticed that Kumiko is putting on the sunscreen for her, jesus, Kyoani pls TTvTT
LumberingCrane
Dec 6, 2016 12:07AM
With the quality of fanart about this pairing, I had to check the tags to see if it was official or not.
hahaha
Dec 6, 2016 12:38AM
Gosh, i love these two~
blargh201
Dec 6, 2016 1:52AM
So good. I second mint-leaf's sentiment. The hope for these two to become an official couple is almost unbearable.
last edited at Dec 6, 2016 5:31PM
Aki_Chan
Dec 6, 2016 2:40AM
Aw look how happy Kumiko is
yuikumari
Dec 6, 2016 2:41AM
they both look sexxy .. and they both lke music so much they have a blanket of music
benja
Dec 6, 2016 3:43AM
sorry guys not happening kyoani wont allow it
AkiraH
Dec 6, 2016 4:28AM
All this bait and I'm still going for it. Damn you KyoAni!
lango
Dec 6, 2016 5:38AM
I know it's not gonna happen, but that's ok since yuri's already in my mind.
Homura E.N.D
Dec 6, 2016 8:15AM
Guys let's stop baiting about KyoAni, even if we're dissapointed about this, this make us not happy. :(
Even if this is official, this is too gay!
Mimiyaah
Dec 6, 2016 8:31AM
Wtf fuck happend to her feet?! XD but they should just make them a couple already!! （≧∇≦）
Itzameapotterhead
Dec 6, 2016 10:01AM
KYO-FUCKING-ANI.
Raz
Dec 6, 2016 12:45PM
Got dam, KyoAni pls.
benja
Dec 6, 2016 2:34PM
i know i should stop complaining about the bait but is sad that theres so few good yuri animes and one of the best ship of the year ends up being a queerbait is really sad
Just a Yuri fangirl.
Dec 6, 2016 3:18PM
^^ true af
Avaz
Dec 6, 2016 3:38PM
sometimes, I can't tell the difference between official art or fan art, because many fan art looks the exact same with official style.
SF
Dec 6, 2016 5:16PM
@benja
I couldn't agree more. Its sad to see all this potential turn into Queerbait :(.
Hauteclere
Dec 6, 2016 7:24PM
@mint-leaf
Forever.
drpepperfan
Dec 6, 2016 7:45PM
I think "see all this potential turn into queerbait" and "KyoAni won't allow it" is a weird way of looking at it. I mean, the original light novels this was based on was het, you know that right? And in adapating it, they've removed the vast majority of that and emphasised these two. The only reason you wish they could be gay together is because they made it that gay.
It might go het in the end, we don't know at this point, but if they'd followed the source more accurately, you wouldn't have even had these two as a couple in the first place most likely. Would you have honestly rather had nothing over a couple that they won't make kiss in the show?
LumberingCrane
Dec 6, 2016 8:34PM
^ I don't watch the show so I definitely can't give a proper answer, but I personally would rather have nothing than be given queerbait (if that was what the question was asking). I'm not saying the show is queerbait (I don't watch it so I can't comment whatsoever about it), but hypothetically speaking, if it was, I would've preferred that they remain loyal to the source material in the first place if that's the end goal anyway. The fact that the studio is responsible for this couple existing to begin with doesn't give them the free pass to just do whatever with them especially since how much adaptations differ from the source material has always been up to the people doing the adaptation; no one told them to make it gayer then suddenly complained that it's not progressing how they wanted. That they even created this couple with their own volition means that they're "responsible" (for the lack of a more fitting word) for it and however it impacts the audience.
I just don't want these people to end up being disappointed in the end just because the studio decided to make a particular pair gayer only to not see it through. I don't mean a yuri end by "see it through", but just to simply have one that reflects the fact that the adaptation is gayer than the source material; even I as someone from the outside looking in can see that.
AkiraH
Dec 6, 2016 8:47PM
^^ yes I know the original is het, but queerbaiting is still not is nice thing to do. I didn't wish for them to be gay together, KyoAni could have just stick closely to the original and make it het and I would still watch it, because it's a music anime and it's KyoAni and their stuff has almost always been great. But purposely making these two so close together, cutting scenes that supposed to have the other guy in it, just to bait on queer girls is a fucked up thing to do in my opinion. Queer people need positive representation in the media so much and yet companies like this doing shit like "Oh we're gonna make the characters slightly gay but not canonly just to attract you guys but you still don't deserve to get actual queer characters." KumiRei would be a perfect positive queer representation, they have a great relationship and they're not sexualized like other yuri shows, but somehow we still can't have that. Of course this is all just my opinion as a queer woman because I don't like queerbait in general. So yes it would be better if they had focus on Kumiko and Shoe's relationship from the very beginning instead of making KumiRei so gay and then pull the whole "jk they're straight KumiShoe forever " crap
LumberingCrane
Dec 6, 2016 9:00PM
Of course this is all just my opinion as a queer woman because I don't like queerbait in general.
As an aside, isn't queerbaiting just objectively bad in all angles no matter how you look at it? How can someone actually "like" or be fine with queerbaiting? it's similar to saying "I personally just don't like deus ex machinas in stories", but obviously queerbaiting has a deeper impact on the viewers so it's worse.
drpepperfan
Dec 6, 2016 9:10PM
A large problem with that though is what exactly do people think qualifies as Queerbait? What people define as yuribait can vary a considerable amount, from things like Love Live and Madoka to Utena. Some people will view a scene as fantastic fanservice which they love, others will despise it as bait. (like those official Madoka pictures from that game people were sharing, that made a lot of people happy when its a similar situation) This series is certainly one that can be considered a more problematic one, due to the source material, but at this moment it's not a Love Lab, it's an unknown. If the series genuinely does add in the het plotlines from the original and focus on them, I can understand the displeasure and people would be free to be upset over it, but that's not currently the situation. It's 99% sure it won't go for a Korra ending, but holding them responsible for something that hasn't happened and getting upset that you can't enjoy a pairing that you wish you could doesn't seem an apt response.
I really think that's a seperate point though, whether or not they should have making it gayer in the first place. My point is not so much about that as much as it is the fact that some people seem to think that KyoAni is preventing the series from being yuri, and wasting the potential they had, when like I said, the only reason the potential exists is cause they added it. That's my major concern over the comments.
And my comment over "Would you have honestly rather had nothing over a couple that they won't make kiss in the show?" wasn't me commenting on the het aspect, it was commenting on the Not Yuri part. It's discounting the possibility of the het being added and focusing entirely on "If it doesn't make them gay, what's the point". If the choice was between "Nothing or Love Labbing", then I would agree that yes, Nothing is better. But that's not what we have at the moment.
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LumberingCrane
Dec 6, 2016 9:18PM
Whoops, I completely misconstrued your comment then, my bad; my comment was under the assumption that it is queerbait.
drpepperfan
Dec 6, 2016 9:21PM
It's understandable, I think I worded it badly.
Hauteclere
Dec 7, 2016 4:21AM
Something is queerbait if they make characters seem gay but turn out to be straight. Euphonium is queerbait because of all the KumiRei stuff while making sure to occasionally remind viewers that Reina is in love with her male teacher. I wouldn't consider things like Madoka Magica and Love Live to be queerbait because they don't do this, even if they don't 100% canonize any gay relationships.
Like AkiraH, I'd prefer it to be honest het to queerbait. Yuri is my jam, but I can enjoy good het, too, and there are plenty of other things about Euphonium to like.
Also, I love Love Lab.
Anubis3200
Dec 8, 2016 8:50PM
Same... this is an outright bait unless they make them canon. They better not make a hetero ending after putting no effort into it. I have nothing against hetero couples as long as they are actually developed. Sadly nowadays, most hetero ships happen just cause they are hetero. Not cause there was chemistry.
It's like Kyoani purposely diverted from novels a bit in order to attract bigger public cause yuri sells nowadays. Either develop hetero ship or make yuri ship canon or stay away from romance baiting altogether and keep it purely as friendship without sexualizing.
SilentLumination
Dec 13, 2016 2:39PM
Kumiko won't give up, will ya?? Reina has a crush on men -_- still good tho.
mint-leaf Dec 6, 2016 12:02AM
How long will we have to endure this
Faust Dec 6, 2016 12:06AM
I just noticed that Kumiko is putting on the sunscreen for her, jesus, Kyoani pls TTvTT
LumberingCrane Dec 6, 2016 12:07AM
With the quality of fanart about this pairing, I had to check the tags to see if it was official or not.
hahaha Dec 6, 2016 12:38AM
Gosh, i love these two~
blargh201 Dec 6, 2016 1:52AM
So good. I second mint-leaf's sentiment. The hope for these two to become an official couple is almost unbearable.
last edited at Dec 6, 2016 5:31PM
Aki_Chan Dec 6, 2016 2:40AM
Aw look how happy Kumiko is
yuikumari Dec 6, 2016 2:41AM
they both look sexxy .. and they both lke music so much they have a blanket of music
benja Dec 6, 2016 3:43AM
sorry guys not happening kyoani wont allow it
AkiraH Dec 6, 2016 4:28AM
All this bait and I'm still going for it. Damn you KyoAni!
lango Dec 6, 2016 5:38AM
I know it's not gonna happen, but that's ok since yuri's already in my mind.
Homura E.N.D Dec 6, 2016 8:15AM
Guys let's stop baiting about KyoAni, even if we're dissapointed about this, this make us not happy. :(
Even if this is official, this is too gay!
Mimiyaah Dec 6, 2016 8:31AM
Wtf fuck happend to her feet?! XD but they should just make them a couple already!! （≧∇≦）
Itzameapotterhead Dec 6, 2016 10:01AM
KYO-FUCKING-ANI.
Raz Dec 6, 2016 12:45PM
Got dam, KyoAni pls.
benja Dec 6, 2016 2:34PM
i know i should stop complaining about the bait but is sad that theres so few good yuri animes and one of the best ship of the year ends up being a queerbait is really sad
Just a Yuri fangirl. Dec 6, 2016 3:18PM
^^ true af
Avaz Dec 6, 2016 3:38PM
sometimes, I can't tell the difference between official art or fan art, because many fan art looks the exact same with official style.
SF Dec 6, 2016 5:16PM
@benja
I couldn't agree more. Its sad to see all this potential turn into Queerbait :(.
Hauteclere Dec 6, 2016 7:24PM
@mint-leaf
Forever.
drpepperfan Dec 6, 2016 7:45PM
I think "see all this potential turn into queerbait" and "KyoAni won't allow it" is a weird way of looking at it. I mean, the original light novels this was based on was het, you know that right? And in adapating it, they've removed the vast majority of that and emphasised these two. The only reason you wish they could be gay together is because they made it that gay.
It might go het in the end, we don't know at this point, but if they'd followed the source more accurately, you wouldn't have even had these two as a couple in the first place most likely. Would you have honestly rather had nothing over a couple that they won't make kiss in the show?
LumberingCrane Dec 6, 2016 8:34PM
^ I don't watch the show so I definitely can't give a proper answer, but I personally would rather have nothing than be given queerbait (if that was what the question was asking). I'm not saying the show is queerbait (I don't watch it so I can't comment whatsoever about it), but hypothetically speaking, if it was, I would've preferred that they remain loyal to the source material in the first place if that's the end goal anyway. The fact that the studio is responsible for this couple existing to begin with doesn't give them the free pass to just do whatever with them especially since how much adaptations differ from the source material has always been up to the people doing the adaptation; no one told them to make it gayer then suddenly complained that it's not progressing how they wanted. That they even created this couple with their own volition means that they're "responsible" (for the lack of a more fitting word) for it and however it impacts the audience.
I just don't want these people to end up being disappointed in the end just because the studio decided to make a particular pair gayer only to not see it through. I don't mean a yuri end by "see it through", but just to simply have one that reflects the fact that the adaptation is gayer than the source material; even I as someone from the outside looking in can see that.
AkiraH Dec 6, 2016 8:47PM
^^ yes I know the original is het, but queerbaiting is still not is nice thing to do. I didn't wish for them to be gay together, KyoAni could have just stick closely to the original and make it het and I would still watch it, because it's a music anime and it's KyoAni and their stuff has almost always been great. But purposely making these two so close together, cutting scenes that supposed to have the other guy in it, just to bait on queer girls is a fucked up thing to do in my opinion. Queer people need positive representation in the media so much and yet companies like this doing shit like "Oh we're gonna make the characters slightly gay but not canonly just to attract you guys but you still don't deserve to get actual queer characters." KumiRei would be a perfect positive queer representation, they have a great relationship and they're not sexualized like other yuri shows, but somehow we still can't have that. Of course this is all just my opinion as a queer woman because I don't like queerbait in general. So yes it would be better if they had focus on Kumiko and Shoe's relationship from the very beginning instead of making KumiRei so gay and then pull the whole "jk they're straight KumiShoe forever " crap
LumberingCrane Dec 6, 2016 9:00PM
As an aside, isn't queerbaiting just objectively bad in all angles no matter how you look at it? How can someone actually "like" or be fine with queerbaiting? it's similar to saying "I personally just don't like deus ex machinas in stories", but obviously queerbaiting has a deeper impact on the viewers so it's worse.
drpepperfan Dec 6, 2016 9:10PM
A large problem with that though is what exactly do people think qualifies as Queerbait? What people define as yuribait can vary a considerable amount, from things like Love Live and Madoka to Utena. Some people will view a scene as fantastic fanservice which they love, others will despise it as bait. (like those official Madoka pictures from that game people were sharing, that made a lot of people happy when its a similar situation) This series is certainly one that can be considered a more problematic one, due to the source material, but at this moment it's not a Love Lab, it's an unknown. If the series genuinely does add in the het plotlines from the original and focus on them, I can understand the displeasure and people would be free to be upset over it, but that's not currently the situation. It's 99% sure it won't go for a Korra ending, but holding them responsible for something that hasn't happened and getting upset that you can't enjoy a pairing that you wish you could doesn't seem an apt response.
I really think that's a seperate point though, whether or not they should have making it gayer in the first place. My point is not so much about that as much as it is the fact that some people seem to think that KyoAni is preventing the series from being yuri, and wasting the potential they had, when like I said, the only reason the potential exists is cause they added it. That's my major concern over the comments.
And my comment over "Would you have honestly rather had nothing over a couple that they won't make kiss in the show?" wasn't me commenting on the het aspect, it was commenting on the Not Yuri part. It's discounting the possibility of the het being added and focusing entirely on "If it doesn't make them gay, what's the point". If the choice was between "Nothing or Love Labbing", then I would agree that yes, Nothing is better. But that's not what we have at the moment.
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LumberingCrane Dec 6, 2016 9:18PM
Whoops, I completely misconstrued your comment then, my bad; my comment was under the assumption that it is queerbait.
drpepperfan Dec 6, 2016 9:21PM
It's understandable, I think I worded it badly.
Hauteclere Dec 7, 2016 4:21AM
Something is queerbait if they make characters seem gay but turn out to be straight. Euphonium is queerbait because of all the KumiRei stuff while making sure to occasionally remind viewers that Reina is in love with her male teacher. I wouldn't consider things like Madoka Magica and Love Live to be queerbait because they don't do this, even if they don't 100% canonize any gay relationships.
Like AkiraH, I'd prefer it to be honest het to queerbait. Yuri is my jam, but I can enjoy good het, too, and there are plenty of other things about Euphonium to like.
Also, I love Love Lab.
Anubis3200 Dec 8, 2016 8:50PM
Same... this is an outright bait unless they make them canon. They better not make a hetero ending after putting no effort into it. I have nothing against hetero couples as long as they are actually developed. Sadly nowadays, most hetero ships happen just cause they are hetero. Not cause there was chemistry.
It's like Kyoani purposely diverted from novels a bit in order to attract bigger public cause yuri sells nowadays. Either develop hetero ship or make yuri ship canon or stay away from romance baiting altogether and keep it purely as friendship without sexualizing.
SilentLumination Dec 13, 2016 2:39PM
Kumiko won't give up, will ya?? Reina has a crush on men -_- still good tho.
daydream_dog94 Jun 6, 2018 11:45AM
kyoani.. plz... spare my life i beg of you