I did read that one of the endings is kinda gay? It has Hornet carrying Lace tho that said apparently there's some lore that might turn people off from this pairing.
SeraphimofYuri
Sep 10, 2025 11:49PM
I did read that one of the endings is kinda gay? It has Hornet carrying Lace tho that said apparently there's some lore that might turn people off from this pairing.
And what lore would that be?
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Swag Wagon
Sep 11, 2025 1:19AM
^ Spoilers, of course:
Lace is an artificial being created entirely out of living silk and is only a couple of years old. Several characters point out she acts like a child. Turns out she's just acting her age.
Conversely, Hornet actually speaks quite often through the game and insists, adamantly, that she is an adult and should be treated as such. Considering her implied immortality in the first game the age gap might be... Big.
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SeraphimofYuri
Sep 11, 2025 10:15AM
Lace is an artificial being created entirely out of living silk and is only a couple of years old. Several characters point out she acts like a child. Turns out she's just acting her age.
Conversely, Hornet actually speaks quite often through the game and insists, adamantly, that she is an adult and should be treated as such. Considering her implied immortality in the first game the age gap might be... Big.
I looked into that, and NPC dialogue implies that Lace was actually created well before most of the inhabitants of Pharloom arrived. If that is the case, she is younger than Hornet, but that much?
Although, I fully admit I could be misunderstanding that information.
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Swag Wagon
Sep 11, 2025 2:33PM
^ I haven't beaten the game yet either, so there's probably something I missed too. If it's not that I'm not sure what the iffy lore implication could be.
girlswhokiss
Sep 11, 2025 4:01PM
I think that it's because she gets called a child of silk in her journal entry
myrrhmidon
Sep 11, 2025 4:06PM
^^Yeah it's that and apparently Lace is permanently stuck with the mind of a child too eventho she may actually be old as well. Tho not sure if she is older than Hornet. Pharloom is really old after all. I've read some people not liking the ship anymore because of that. I personally don't mind especially since the ending I've read is giving me strong Hornet x Lace vibes. I do like Shakra x Hornet more.
FluffyCow
Sep 11, 2025 4:48PM
This sounds like a lot of "Is a fictional character ship morally and ethically okay to ship based off their complicated and fairly vague non-human traits that don't apply to real life?", that I see fandoms debate and discuss a lot. I think it's often a silly thing for people to worry about, but I know fandoms and shipping culture well enough to know that people will shame people and thought police people over the ship. I really think there's more important things in life to worry about lol
(Also I'm not saying anyone here is doing that, I'm only commenting on how I think people on general social media will probably engage based on my overall experience with fandom and shipping culture, plus social media in general.)
Knobody Knows Sep 8, 2025 10:54PM
BUG YURI
Swag Wagon Sep 9, 2025 3:12AM
That's an interesting design for Hornet
myrrhmidon Sep 9, 2025 4:44AM
Meanwhile players once they get to the Citadel: I APOLOGIZE PALE KING
I did read that one of the endings is kinda gay? It has Hornet carrying Lace tho that said apparently there's some lore that might turn people off from this pairing.
SeraphimofYuri Sep 10, 2025 11:49PM
And what lore would that be?
last edited at Sep 10, 2025 11:51PM
Swag Wagon Sep 11, 2025 1:19AM
^ Spoilers, of course:
Lace is an artificial being created entirely out of living silk and is only a couple of years old. Several characters point out she acts like a child. Turns out she's just acting her age.
Conversely, Hornet actually speaks quite often through the game and insists, adamantly, that she is an adult and should be treated as such. Considering her implied immortality in the first game the age gap might be... Big.
last edited at Sep 11, 2025 1:43AM
SeraphimofYuri Sep 11, 2025 10:15AM
I looked into that, and NPC dialogue implies that Lace was actually created well before most of the inhabitants of Pharloom arrived. If that is the case, she is younger than Hornet, but that much?
Although, I fully admit I could be misunderstanding that information.
last edited at Sep 11, 2025 10:16AM
Swag Wagon Sep 11, 2025 2:33PM
^ I haven't beaten the game yet either, so there's probably something I missed too. If it's not that I'm not sure what the iffy lore implication could be.
girlswhokiss Sep 11, 2025 4:01PM
I think that it's because she gets called a child of silk in her journal entry
myrrhmidon Sep 11, 2025 4:06PM
^^Yeah it's that and apparently Lace is permanently stuck with the mind of a child too eventho she may actually be old as well. Tho not sure if she is older than Hornet. Pharloom is really old after all. I've read some people not liking the ship anymore because of that. I personally don't mind especially since the ending I've read is giving me strong Hornet x Lace vibes. I do like Shakra x Hornet more.
FluffyCow Sep 11, 2025 4:48PM
This sounds like a lot of "Is a fictional character ship morally and ethically okay to ship based off their complicated and fairly vague non-human traits that don't apply to real life?", that I see fandoms debate and discuss a lot. I think it's often a silly thing for people to worry about, but I know fandoms and shipping culture well enough to know that people will shame people and thought police people over the ship. I really think there's more important things in life to worry about lol
(Also I'm not saying anyone here is doing that, I'm only commenting on how I think people on general social media will probably engage based on my overall experience with fandom and shipping culture, plus social media in general.)