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after reading this story so far, I really want someone to go ahead and translate Arai Sumiko's Bokura wa Kanojo ni Izonshou / 僕らは彼女に依存症 / We are addicted to her
ew. why did you even bring that up here? that's even more hetero focused than yuri. and there are literally hetero sex scenes
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i feel like eri is only doing this cuz she is very emotionally vulnerable and her thoughts sums it up for me that she only wants fuyuki to never leave her
"I knew i really like Fuyuki"
"Why do I have to think about such things? It doesn't matter what kind of love I have. I just want you to be by my side."
"Hey, stay by my side, Fuyuki"
I'm still not sure if this means that Eri is aware of her romantic feelings for her and this could be another source of conflict as Fuyuki willl deny the meaning behind the kiss as "Eri is just confused"
last edited at Nov 4, 2024 1:59AM
holy shit. thank you for the quick TLs. i finally understand why. if anyone still defends Kyou after all this, i really will pity you.
what a shitty asshole, cheating on his girlfriend and a childhood friend then trying to toss his rebound to the side cuz he didn't wanna let go of Eri??
eri needs to wake the fuck up soon. and fuyuki is just angst incarnated. she still willingly gives up her own happiness and refuses to be selfish. this month-long wait for 16.2 will be anguish
please, someone do a detailed summary of 16.1
it seems this volume will be more focused on the eri/fuyuki/kyou/ino couples and i just get a headache when I see this dude. i dont have the energy to manually machine TL it atm
bruh i was waiting for a new update today and when you mentioned the volume 3 cover and saw the chapter listing (it went up to 15), i still denied that we won't see a new chapter for a while and coped. well, comic walker just updated and it was just the vol 3 promo ahhhh
how long will we have to wait for chapter 16? a month or more? i really wish chapter 13 to 15 would get translated soon
last edited at Aug 8, 2024 10:26PM
And just to note, for high quality translations we should wait for the scanlators. This is just something I threw together with my so-so understanding so it's most likely not 100%.
i would but that'll take a year for chapter 7 to come out. i hate acting like a spoiled child and i usually try not to complain about this kind of thing, waiting for free content, but I'd rather read half-baked TLs than wait over 6 months for an "official" TL of one chapter.
but i wanna thank you for expanding on my even more muddled translation through google cuz it made things a bit more clear. i do wonder if the next chapters will be about eri trying to distinguish the difference between platonic and romantic love. we know that eri always had difficulty forming relationships except with fuyuki. but we still don't know why she thinks like this. would be nicer to get more background on eri, fuyuki, maybe even kisaki, that isnt told from kyou's perspective.
if kyou has reconciled with eri, then he might try to just win her even harder since he'll feel like competing against fuyuki. the ball is on eri's court to see what she does. if she till decides to stick with kyou, then this drama will be even longer and pointless imo
last edited at Aug 2, 2024 5:37AM
has someone got the patience to translate the first half of 15.2? i was more interested in what Eri was thinking so i immediately spent time on that first. this is what she said (and some might be incoherent)
starting from when Eri starts her monologue:
This place was important to me. She was always kind to me and I never wanted to lose her, so I treasured her more than anything. I thought I had done everything I could to make that happen.
But... I didn't know that Fuyuki liked girls, I didn't know that I couldn't be her number one without [being her girlfriend].
"If you like Fuyuki that much, then just go out with her..." (i think Kyou said this to her at some point idk)
What Kyo said is true. Even now, I'm sad that the place next to Fuyuki is no longer mine, more than I am sad about Kyo. What should I have done? (the last part was in form of a question when translated but it wasn't from the original text so I'm confused)
then after eri cries for some time, fuyuki says it's time to go and asks if Eri wants her to stay behind with her on the bus but Eri declines and she'll be fine (while using fuyuki's handkerchief?)
and then we're back to Eri's monologue which was the best part i think
If it was going to be like this, I wanted to be Fuyuki's girlfriend. Then, yesterday and from now on, this place would have been mine alone.
i assume that the "place" that Eri's been mentioning was actually Fuyuki's side which took me some time to realize she wasn't talking about the beach lol
so are we entering Eri pining over Fuyuki while fuyuki tries to move on? that script felt like she was writing down her inner thoughts. meanwhile kyou can keep that random girl. idk what he'll do. Eri or Kyou might try to work their relationship out but Kyou have probably pieced together that Fuyuki has been in love with Eri this whole time. will he be the wingman or just be angry and keep Eri to himself anyways?
Waiting for a quick summary. This first half of chapter 15 lacks both Fuyuki and senpai lol.
kinda did a little bit of it. i dont got the energy to understand the first half precisely cuz we saw no fuyuki.
so i only machine TL the last several pages cuz i got no interest in kyo possibly trying to awkwardly tell eri that he cheated on her even though he forced himself upon her previously so this guy had just gone up the douchebag scale.
but this is definitely gonna be a bit incoherent. at least the beginning cuz idk wtf it's supposed to say
starts out from the page with eri is reading her script:
""If you watch it, you'll understand, we're childhood friends, actually, I heard it from my parents, you see, this is a pretty rural area, I've always liked you more, but much, much longer than that person...
Hey. Do you remember the promise we made back then? If you remembered, would you have chosen me? You asked me to marry you.
...I actually know, your wishes won't come true just because you think they will, but I knew... This love has to end... I'm giving up.
I don't want to see you again, but... I hope you'll be happy"
then shifts to the crew members praising eri and how realistic her acting was (no tnx to kyo literally making her cry the night before
and then they accidentally spill that fuyuki actually wrote that whole segment:
"But somehow... the lines are good too. (amazing)
"Fuyuki thought up these lines"
"But you know, Kosaka (i think it meant Kisaki) told me not to tell anyone else"
"Ah! That's right!!! Sorry, sorry! Don't tell anyone about this!"
so yeah. idk where this will lead. maybe kyo goes on another rampage cuz of jealousy that hs started since literally their childhood? or just acceptance at this stage. i hope kyo sticks to that irrelevant girl and either talk to fuyuki about this and try to confirm it, be the typical bridge between her ex and his friend, or just stay out of the way.
also, that bit where fuyuki's part of the script mentions "your wishes won't come true just because you think they will, but I knew... This love has to end... I'm giving up" seems like an actual foreshadowing (and slight title mention!!!) where fuyuki will literally try to distance herself from eri and kyo? it feels like Fuyuki deliberately rejecting the part of Main Heroine is on purpose so that either kyo or eri realizes that this scene is actually about them and her confessing what she plans to do. it seems "too on the face" to just think none of them would notice but eri is a bit more dense so
anyway, i need the other readers's thoughts on chapter 15
I don't know, I never found it. Why don't you ask them? And by the way, wdym messed up a lot of pages? Mines working perfectly fine
as i mentioned before, i don't have tiktok and that includes no account. what i meant by "messed up" is that the scroll bar is in the way when i screenshot + saved each page and i cannot remove them on pages where the drawing extends outside the box and it requires me to photoshop it. i can't hide the UI on tiktok desktop or mobile browser. and no, i do not have tiktok app installed on my phone.
^ Let me try copy the link from part 2. Tell me if the link show in video or slideshow.
yeah doesnt work on mobile browser but it works on desktop.
btw, do you know if that tiktoker have uploaded their chapters in a website? i manually screenshot each page but i don't have authority to upload them and the scroll bar messed up a lot of pages. would rather read it online than
watch it, especially not on tiktok.
how do you read a manga off of tiktok? also no link provided. i dont have that app installed
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSYHHtAG8/
the username called moosan92
thanks. how did you grab the timestamp link though? i grabbed the part 2 link and it's a video but your link shows me i can swipe the photos like a slideshow
What do you mean?
how do you read a manga off of tiktok? also no link provided. i dont have that app installed
I read some comments and all you bullsjit on innocent boy like he litelary wanted to gave any importance while his girlfriend was only about Fuyuki all the time
Kyou is ok person and no one should talk bad about him
bro be quiet with your cringe-y white-knight. no one needs a guy like you to defend a fictional male who literally tried to enforce himself on a person, who in this case is his girlfriend and childhood friend. next time just keep your thoughts to yourself.
last edited at Jun 28, 2024 8:41AM
Hey, I just want to say that there is chapter 7 that already translated on tiktok
on tiktok... how does that even work
i really wish someone could help translate these chapters quicker though. Even if someone just machine translates the whole thing and then edit them into the chapters would be better for convenience atp.
i havent fully machine translated the new chapter but i really hope this isnt ending that soon. like a volume more at least. the whole kisaki thing hasnt been expanded much and i feel like she needs the most backstory along with fuyuki.
i have a suspicion that kisaki has, or always did, devoloped feelings for fuyuki. however, it just didn't translate that much for me. it's like, all she's doing is just to spite Eri cuz of how much Fuyuki's been suffering silently about her one-sided crush. also, idk wtf Eri is on but saying that she likes Fuyuki the most but just as a friend is so weird and cope. if the author somehow expands that Eri is most likely aromantic? (idk if thats the right term or ace? but like someone who cant develop romantic feelings for anyone.) then maybe i can get it. idk if the story or author is gonna delve that deep into it though.
also, was Kyou seriously forcing himself on Eri at the beginning then blaming Eri?? what in the fuck. like Eri is at fault but at this point, she just has some real complex problems about relationships and boundaries. she needs therapy the most and fuyuki as well. anyway, Kyou sucks ass and that random girl who looks like him can choke on him, i guess.
there's a new chapter next week. what is everyone expecting? i think we will see them wrapping up the film and fuyuki and kisaki will go together somewhere else while eri sulks. i dont remember if they're at the end of their semester but i am expecting that fuyuki will decide to move away and apply to a different college with kisaki sometime in the future. in chapter 12, in the flashback scene, eri tells young kyouhei that she wants to get along with him for fuyuki's sake despite hating him at first. if fuyuki wasnt in the picture, she wouldn't have tried to get closer to him, much to kyou's frustration.
i think ultimately the only way forward is for fuyuki to put some physical distance away from eri so she won't be emotionally damaged anymore and actually try to be happy for herself. then for eri to grow up, learn how to be independent, and realize she shouldn't just expect fuyuki to be her coping mechanism. if eri isn't as stupid as we think, she'd realize she was in love with fuyuki all along.
Eri finally had a taste of her own medicine and I love that lol. Meanwhile Kyou can just fk off. I used to think he was at least a decent guy but now he is just like a petty loser. Can just get with that other girl as a consolation prize then.
i agree and honestly? his inferiority complex and how he deliberately tried to keep Fuyuki away from Eri because he felt threatened over their friendship really doesn't make me sympathetic over him. he has seen how close they've been since childhood and he's been jealous he couldn't have that same closeness with Eri because he's been in love with her since then. he's so pathetic and i haven't bothered to translate his PoV chapters but that random girl who's worried over him can keep him instead. she seems like a pain in the ass too
13.2 raws
i only used google translate so I'm probably not getting the full picture here but Eri is just selfish. i haven't seen much proof that she actually cares about Fuyuki in any way except to ensure that Eri, herself, is emotionally safe. she's treating Fuyuki as some sort of coping mechanism. here's the panel i translated in 13.2 page 4:
"Fuyuki... Are you going to that person's place?
Don't go.
Stay here.
It's my first time filming, so I'm nervous too, and I want Fuyuki to be by my side."
and in the page right before Kisaki purposefully kissed Fuyuki to dissuade Eri from getting any closer to Fuyuki, Eri was lamenting that constantly thinking about Fuyuki is ruining her time in Film Camp so she decides to forget about her in the meantime. (this was probably mistranslated but it makes sense anyway. Eri's been hung up on Fuyuki possibly getting a new "number 1" over her)
anyway, i still don't see Fuyuki and Eri as endgame and how the next chapter goes will probably tell me more if Eri is for real in denial over her actual love for Fuyuki or she's straight up just a selfish brat.
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Fuyuki's POV would be nice. She's at least honest with herself, so we'd likely get a clearer explanation on her feelings than we would from Eri's POV. I wonder why Fuyuki kinda went fetal after pushing Eri away. Was it her own trauma around seeing Kyou and Eri hooking up, or was it a result of feeling like she hurt Eri's feelings/wasn't being a good friend? Truly hope it's not the latter.
Anyhow, if we do get Kyou's perspective on essentially competing with Fuyuki his whole life, it will make it even clearer that Eri has feelings for her.
i wouldn't say fuyuki is the most honest with herself. she's still hiding behind her promise with eri instead of just confessing to her. even if she gets turned down, at least she tried. but like i said, the author likes to take their stories a bit realistic so this is just typical teenage queer angst.
New raw up. Seems like Eri's jealousy is getting obvious. Fuyuki's been by Senpai's side and Eri keeps looking at them, even getting bothered because she overhears Fuyuki call Senpai by her name, saying, "I can carry that for you, Sasaki-san." She's kinda cold to Kyou but idk if that's just her being in a pissed off mood because of Sasaki. Kyou asks her about the script and she's just half listening, eventually asking him "Fuyuki's girlfriend's name is Sasaki. Did you know?" To which he replies "Why would I?". The second half of the chapter is just about Kyou's pov of meeting the two as kids and if the next chapter is about him it'll be disappointing since I don't give a shit about his character. And by the looks of it it's probably gonna ba about how he feels out of place or jealous that Eri has loved Fuyuki more than him their entire lives.
just a correction, the senpai's name is Kisaki.
yeahhhh i have a feeling that the next part will be more kyou (ughhh). this author tends to go with the "realistic" part of relationships in their stories so i bet eri and kyou will stay together and have kids, maybe even married. fuyuki and kisaki will break up eventually then maybe we'll get an epilogue with a flash forward of them as adults in their 30s and eri will have divorced kyou, reminisce about her childhood and fuyuki then she'll have. "what if" moment where she and fuyuki are happy together (but not necessarily romantically together).
idk i just don't think eri likes fuyuki romantically but is just feeling left out just like when she was a kid and fuyuki was the only one to stick through with her. fuyuki will be tired of feeling like a 3rd wheel and now decided she needs to grow up and move on from eri and kyou, which i think will be the happy ending.
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Agree lol. Anyway, I know it could be out of her character, but Eri gets angry and spills the beans to end their relationship would be top notch lol.
you're so weird for this. why the animosity towards fuyuki? i feel bad for her for falling for a straight girl, something a lot of us lesbians unfortunately suffer from. i hope fuyuki just breaks off away from Eri cuz nothing good will ever come from being her friend. it is exhausting to constantly try to please your friend, romantically or platonically speaking, just to make sure you stay close to them. i have experienced it (though gladly never fell for a close friend).
also, someone else mentioned "at least Kyou isn't a bad guy" when the dude deliberately told Fuyuki to stay away from Eri on her bday lmao. he only retracted that once he knew she'd get mad. yeah Kyou has possession problems and insecurity.
Looks like things are getting spicy between Fuyuki and senpai. But if I'm not wrong, senpai was having a crush on a guy(?) (I only guessed on their back and hand) that already had a gf (her sister/close friend?). Then I can see why things may not work out between them. I mean, all we see so far are senpai "comforting" Fuyuki, are we sure if she could get attracted to girls? I won't be surprised if next chapter starts with senpai rejects Fuyuki lol. There are also messages at the end (probably from Eri) that I will appreciate anyone translate it. But man, this author really like missing messages while having sex xD
And so, I only want Fuyuki to be happy :(
But god, to think this is a yuri story where the only relevant thing is the protagonist having a long time crush on her female childhood friend, and everything else is het shits... There could be actions between two girls next chapter but even so, it doesn't make it any better to me.
is fuyuki the only lesbian in this story? lol. even the senpai is straight and just gonna play with Fuyuki. this sucks. i'm starting to really hate this story and possibly the author as a whole. i don't think I've ever read a happy lesbian story from them.
wait. i did a quick deepl translate over that panel you spoke of, and i think that mandly arm and hand is her father
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Man, thanks again. I actually already saw the raw up to 9.1, but can't understand much. So with your help I think I don't even need to read the translation later xD
Well, I understand how Kyou feels, but as an observer, I only see it as him knew full well he couldn't win against Fuyuki over Eri's affection, and so had to ask her to "give up" so he could have a chance. Yeah Eri didn't seem that angry afterwards, but also doesn't look like she actually like him more after that. So if anything, I think his plan is already backfire. And so, I wonder how long for him to stop being blinded by love, to realize he would end up like Eri's previous bfs. I mean, right now I feel like he could have thought "wow, she agreed to have sex with me. She finally starts to like me" xD
And about the sex thing, they are exactly my thoughts but the way you put it is wonderful. A bit sad that senpai may not be her option though. Maybe they can keep comforting each other and in the end, be able to move on from their unrequited love and finally be together? Because I think they look great together, like the open page in chapter 9.
And not like only you want that route haha. Personally at this point, I just can't root for a Fuyuki x Eri ending. To much angst that could only leave a bad taste in my mouth if author really intends for that. And so the wedding could be a make or break of an ending to me. Tbh, I don't even mind if it's between Eri and Kyou, but only if Eri actually comes to love him, not that number 1 bs.
Btw, just a rant I want to let out in general, so you can just ignore it. Like, gay girls falling for straight girls aren't that uncommon irl, and most of the time they didn't end well. So why would we have to endure the same thing even in fiction lol. Secondly, what with authors in recent years that keep bringing up het elements in yuri stories? Did they think it would make the story more realistic, or that it will bring a wider range of audiences? I think I have enough with all the harem romcom out there, but they are even here too. I really miss the old days, that even if there is angst, they are all girl on girl actions. And talk about realistic, I feel like only manga could make promises that heavy, like you bet all your life on it lmao. Like, I don't even remember things just some years ago, and here we have a girl that keep living in agony just to not break a promise, when in her pov, the other person may not even remember. I also believe this is the first long serialization of Murasakino? Then to me, it's already the worst one of their works.
where did u find the chapter 9 raws? i only just now saw 8.2 and it was about kyou and eri having sex with fuyuki catching them then meeting with her "gf"
the translators are taking so long with this manga.