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She had her own ambitions. I don't see why she should have given up on them.

To note, their break up was a mutual agreement. There's no real bad blood between them. But it's obviously a bitter memory for her, because he somewhat led her on to finally chicken out. She loved him and thought they would build something together, but life didn't let them.

I wouldn't say it's Joe's fault either, because he had to take care of Mitsuki (for yet unexplained reasons). That's just life.

But in the present time, Kanna came back temporarily and Joe kind of took her for granted, conveniently forgetting that she had to go back eventually and had a life over there, that he's not part of.

Maybe she even has a man there (seeing that flashback panel where she's talking with a man with glasses who looks at her gently).

So, as she says, it's too late. She needs to leave, because the longer she stays, the more they look away from reality, the more painful it becomes.

i also don't think she should have given up on them, but my problem with this situation is that Kanna never had a talk with Joe and Mitsuki about what she came back for and why, and i agree Joe has done that because just likw Mitsuki he just goes along with things, which is his problem in this mess. At the same time though its impossible for Joe to know exactly what Kanna wants when she doesn't say anything.

This also why i think the advice she gave to Aya was somewhat bad, as moving on rather than clinging to nothing is good advice, but doing so without actually knowing what the other person wants just going off what you think they want isn't.

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joined Nov 30, 2022

I think Kanna wanted to test the saying, time heals all wounds. She might have believed that with time having passed between her and Joe, and now that Mitsuki is older, she could convince Mitsuki to move with her to the States. Unlike before, when Joe made the decision not to leave because of Mitsuki, Kanna likely thought that Mitsuki, being older and able to think for herself, might be more open to the idea. If Mitsuki agreed, it could have even influenced Joe to reconsider.

Which is kind of my point She seems happy for Joe and Mitsuki to drop everything to go with her, and yet when asked (not that she was since Joe being so passive didn't even think about it and just was happy she was here without thinking really about the why) gets upset about the situation without actually having a proper conversation about what she wants, until she has already decided to leave

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joined Nov 30, 2022

Tbh i don't even know what Kanna was expecting, like she chose to come back here knowing Joe would still have Mitsuki to look after which is why they split in the first place and then i guess she thought she could get him to go with her? despite that things haven't changed for Joes circumstance. Like either way someone would have to leave their home in order to get together and its not like she said any of this to Joe and has only said something when she is planning to leave anyway.

I do believe its possible that they do get back together, whether that will be because of Joe deciding to go to America which he would probably only do if Mitsuki decided to leave with him or Kanna staying in japan which she clearly doesn't want to do.

Only other option is that Mitsuki decides to stay behind and allow Joe to go with Kanna as she is technically old enough to live by herself i guess.

As much as Kanna is upset at this, imo she brought this onto herself the moment she decided to come back at all especially since she is the one mainly wanting to make the other to give up their home in order to be together, whereas Joe has not been thinking about that at all and just going with the flow resulting in this because they don't talk to each other (though i think Kanna should have been the one to talk with Joe about what she wants before just dropping it on Joe when she is about to leave).

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joined Nov 30, 2022

Tbh i don't even know what Kanna was expecting, like she chose to come back here knowing Joe would still have Mitsuki to look after which is why they split in the first place and then i guess she thought she could get him to go with her? despite that things haven't changed for Joes circumstance. Like either way someone would have to leave their home in order to get together and its not like she said any of this to Joe and has only said something when she is planning to leave anyway.

I do believe its possible that they do get back together, whether that will be because of Joe deciding to go to America which he would probably only do if Mitsuki decided to leave with him or Kanna staying in japan which she clearly doesn't want to do.

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joined Nov 30, 2022

Absolutely agree with this. Surprised to see so many complaints going on still about how long everything's taken and whether this'll be bait yadda yadda. Aya and Mitsuki's relationship has been building up to parallel Joe and Kanna's for a good while now and this chapter couldn't be more in your face about it.

Ye atm it is a direct parallel between Joe and Kanna and Aya is currently seemingly following the route that Kanna took which kind of ended with them breaking up. So its understandable people talk about bait becuase the author could make it a thing where history kind of repeats itself and Aya and Mitsuki end up as friends.

Personally i dont think it will end like that as usually you make parallels between people to show the different paths they could have taken if things were slightly different, so i think it will lead to at least Mitsuki realising her own feelings but the other end is possible.

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joined Nov 30, 2022

with a bit of thought the biggest issue with this situation, is that both Kanna and Aya hasn't brought up anything with Joe and Mitsuki. For example, i could be wrong but has anyone asked whether Mitsuki even wants to do this Music party or if she wanted to go to the prom? Because to me it seems like everyone has pretty much just said this is something she should do and she has just gone along with it.

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Funny, that's not how I read the situation at all with Kanna. For me, she is telling Aya something like "if being her friend is enough for you, don't dwell on it and enjoy the thing you wanted to do with her, without her.".
Basically, get over it and continue your life (like she did with Joe).

I still see her as an obstacle for them becoming a couple. She was the one pushing for Mitsuki to go to America. She will probably push her to follow music rather than a relationship with Aya. Of course, Mitsuki can do both. But I don't think Kanna wants to think it's possible. Otherwise, it would mean that maybe it could have been possible for her and Joe to find a way to stay together.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but that the impression I have of the situation.

I agree, though i don't think she's doing it with that intention even at the end Kanna seems to be kind of running away from having a conversation with Joe about what she actually wants. This is the same with her advice to Aya which boils down to them both assuming the other person isn't interested without actually being straightforward with it (of course i would say Mitsuki is the one that needs to do something in Aya's situation, but the problem is that Mitsuki is unaware of Aya's feelings in the first place, that is just due to her being dense which is why i think Aya needs to actually say something not just let it go and say nothing).

I think this goes to Kanna aswell, since the whole Kanna and Joe relationship seems to be a parallel to Aya and Mitsuki's and with Kanna's advice it looks as if they will be going the same way.

Really this entire situation only really ends in 2 ways at the end of this prom /music party arc either Aya and Mitsuki confirm the just friends bond and Aya moves on, or (i wont say they get together) we get confirmation to some degree that Mitsuki feels the same way e.g Could start a thing where Aya has let it go and Mitsuki starts being the one to pursue Aya. IMO

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joined Nov 30, 2022

Only as an "important friends" this is why communication is key in any relationship.
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/the_guy_she_was_interested_in_wasnt_a_guy_at_all_ch108#3

I get the vibe that the Kanna is kind of like a fairy godmother for Aya and Mitsuki. At the end of the chapter, when she says, "I guess... I should leave soon,” it really feels like the author is using her as a subtle plot device. It’s like she’s there to give Aya that last bit of encouragement to go for it and take her chances. It’s almost as if she’s this quiet, presence who shows up, nudges things in the right direction, and then disappears right when she’s no longer needed.

Too me it feels like kind of the opposite, tbh i got the sense that she is essentially telling Aya to do what she seems to have done with Joe, or something similar, basically if Aya is fine being with Mitsuki thinking of her as a friend then to let it be and kind of just give up, which seems to be what happened with Joe and is still happening but i could be wrong.

Though i do think this will lead Aya to at least say that she wants to go to the prom with Mitsuki (or Mitsuki will say no to the music party and go to the prom with Aya) rather than Aya going alone the whole time, which would differ to what seems to be Kanna's experience.

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Am i the only one who believes that the president is also slightly wrong in that more bodies are appearing because of Satsuki keeps saving people, and more so that this world kind of acts more like time in shows like doctor who and the flash etc, where some things can be changed but certain this are fixed points in time where they can be changed but doing so causes massive repercussions. For example i would say Komachi being initially saved is the "fixed point" we even seas cogs of the world break when Satsuki saves her. which should have happened before Komachi since we know she wasn't the first person saved.

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joined Nov 30, 2022

I think the president is of the mindset of if a corpse shows up, then he just leaves it alone whether they someone who he thinks should die or not. plus I don't think he actually goes around murdering people too much, as I don't believe the initial attempt on Miho's life was the president but Seo since before she died the one who had the oil said they were told it was non flammable from Seo. not that it matters, in terms of if he has been retconned but i personally dont think so as he believes some people should die and would actively kill them them (Miho and that one teacher) while also believing that you shouldn't prevent a death if it appears. Finally one reason Satsuki is fine to live is due to her powers since he values them and the fact that Satsuki hasn't had a natural prem corpse yet, only having ones when actively trying to prevent another

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joined Nov 30, 2022

Tbh I think Komachi is the one responsible for the increase in deaths, since I'm pretty sure she wasn't the first person Satsuki saved only the first one at the start of the manga. Since Satsuki already had started studying methods that would kill some one and had the knowledge to save her I assume she's been saving people for a little while at least and it didn't seem to increase the number of deaths in the school. Another reason is that most of the people who have died have been related to Komachi in some way even indirectly the only ones that aren't are like the little boy from the fountain and the father of Akira which one those wasn't even an accident it was premeditated so I don't think it counts as more death. Finally Komachi is very much like the protag of the authors previous work which involved the supernatural ability to attract death (pretty much everyone around the protag died, and to become attracted to death I think u have to had committed a murder or something) which is basically what's happening here so its possible Komachi being saved is what caused this, rather than saving a bunch of people increased the number each time. I also think its the reason why Komachi seems to die a lot, this is the third or fourth time now right?

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this is just a theory but in the authors other work, which was also largely about death, resolved around the main character basically being surrounded by death and it was "theorised/explained in that manga" that when someone kills another person death stays with them and they attract death in a sense (it wasn't a physical being) and whether the person still killed people or not others around them would die. In the manga it never confirmed if all the deaths were coincidence or some supernatural death aura since, the only thing that was common in deaths were they were close/knew the MC so it could be a similiar thing in this series, though taken in the opposite route for Satsuki as in the more she saves people from death the more its attracted to her.

this would explain why the school is the main epicentre as u have atleast 2 people who may attract death, also ive just realised that Komachis personality is extremely similiar to the previous mangas mc, as both were very unaffected by everything including death and could not understand others well (komachi did try to kill satsuki because she thought she wanted to die)