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joined Jan 24, 2022

Every time someone bad happens in a manga somebody comes along like this to claim it's some kinda especially Japanese bad thing and they're pretty much always wrong. There's not really any country on earth that DOESN'T have rape culture, unfortunately, just as there's no country on earth without patriarchy.

Look last samurai, I'm not trying to hate on Japanese culture and I'm definitely not claiming it's an exclusively Japanese thing. I've lived in Japan for a few years and almost every woman I've talked to has experienced some kind of sexual harassment and says they will probably never report it due to the fear of being blamed or shamed. It was a culture shock for me as I came from a country where these things are actually taken seriously. Rape culture does exist in a lot of places but at least in many countries, it is acknowledged by the general public and the government as a shitty thing, and steps are being taken to combat it instead of just trying to shut women (and men) up.

You having lived there or not doesn't change the fact that talking as if it were (even if it wasn't your intention) an especially Japanese culture is a thing that happens too often and is packaged with racism. What you've described is what happens in multiple countries, including mine (Brazil) and in 1st world countries even if they claim to be "progressive". They'll always find a reason to blame the victim, be it clothing or a mere hand signal.
It's not Japanese culture, just rape culture.
I'm not trying to single you out, it's just something to have in mind.

Like everyone else Misa's reaction in this really surprised me, but like kinseijoshi I don't think that it's OOC. I'm really excited to see where this is going!

Giving valid criticisms of a country or culture is not racist. And having lived there did in fact change my perspective of Japan as I learned how normalized victim blaming is. Ask any woman living in Japan and they will tell you it's a HUGE problem in Japan. The government, the police, the media, even the general public will pressure you into keeping quiet to "preserve the harmony".

Also, just because it happens in other places, doesn't make it any less of a problem. Like I said, even though it happens in other places, the difference is that in many of these places, people actually listen to and sympathize with victims, instead of being dismissive and victim blaming like some people here.

People are confused why Misa acted this way after learning about what happened to Io. But when you understand that victim blaming is normalized in Japanese culture (again, I'm not saying it is exclusive to Japanese culture), it becomes more clear why Misa acted the way she did. However, it still does not justify her actions.

joined Jan 24, 2022

Unfortunately, Japan has a culture of victim blaming when it comes to sexual assault. A victim being told "you allowed it to happen" is extremely common and we actually see this exact interaction happening between Misa and Io.

Every time someone bad happens in a manga somebody comes along like this to claim it's some kinda especially Japanese bad thing and they're pretty much always wrong. There's not really any country on earth that DOESN'T have rape culture, unfortunately, just as there's no country on earth without patriarchy.

Look last samurai, I'm not trying to hate on Japanese culture and I'm definitely not claiming it's an exclusively Japanese thing. I've lived in Japan for a few years and almost every woman I've talked to has experienced some kind of sexual harassment and says they will probably never report it due to the fear of being blamed or shamed. It was a culture shock for me as I came from a country where these things are actually taken seriously. Rape culture does exist in a lot of places but at least in many countries, it is acknowledged by the general public and the government as a shitty thing, and steps are being taken to combat it instead of just trying to shut women (and men) up.

joined Jan 24, 2022

Unfortunately, Japan has a culture of victim blaming when it comes to sexual assault. A victim being told "you allowed it to happen" is extremely common and we actually see this exact interaction happening between Misa and Io.

Also, it seems like Io is at least perceptive enough to realize that Hase is going after her because she couldn't get with her mom.

joined Jan 24, 2022

Oh ok so she’s a groomer. She’s had a weird psychosexual obsession with Io this whole time and now that she’s had sex she’s gone from pretty doll to woman and that obsession is shifting along with it. Super super creepy.

Manager still sees io as a kid, which is even more messed up.

joined Jan 24, 2022

Well played Lumine

joined Jan 24, 2022

Trauma bonding

joined Jan 24, 2022

At this rate we might get Senpai fuck Asumi arc soon huh

I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet considering what kind of manga this is. Apart from Mai ( for "plot" reasons), Senpai is the only recurring character that Asumi hasn't fucked. She even did it with her boss from the lesbian bar way back

joined Jan 24, 2022

I like how Jun is always down to go along with Nadeshiko's lewd suggestions. They would probably get along pretty well if they weren't "rivals"

joined Jan 24, 2022

Can Yuni fight?

joined Jan 24, 2022

Narita, my dude, wtf are you doing in the middle seat?

joined Jan 24, 2022

Huh?

joined Jan 24, 2022

Senpai finally making her move. You can always count on her to get the plot moving

joined Jan 24, 2022

Every H artist ever lmao

joined Jan 24, 2022

Ah... Makino... you don't understand how obsessed Asian moms are with continuing the family line...

(armchair psychologist voice) I have reason to believe Asian mothers force the burden of childbearing on their daughters because they themselves had to suffer that pressure, and sunk cost fallacy about bloodline carries intergenerationally.

That's exactly what it is. "I had to go through it so you should do it too" + "What will others think if my daughter doesn't have children?"

joined Jan 24, 2022

Good mom vs shitty mom

joined Jan 24, 2022

??????????

joined Jan 24, 2022

Mad scientist mom looking kinda....

joined Jan 24, 2022

From volume 3 extras, it seems like Asumi just prefers to have more "variety" instead of being with one person only

joined Jan 24, 2022

Nanao really went from "Shy girl who knows nothing about sex" to being a dommy sugar mommy.

The author reminding us that other characters still exist is a nice touch. It's been a while since we've seen Asumi's senpai and boss, and of course, Mai. Also love that Serina is becoming a recurring character now.

joined Jan 24, 2022

Unintentional rizz

joined Jan 24, 2022

Those guys became yuri enjoyers after that

joined Jan 24, 2022

Interesting title

also, Guro or Vore ?

joined Jan 24, 2022

tragicomic that their last texts went out like
- it's finished
- me too dies

I laughed way more than would have been appropriate here...

After all the laughing (and crying), once my mind cleared up, I realized this was probably done on purpose.

The novel was about Shizuku and Kaori's time together. As soon as the novel ends, Kaori's life also ends, signifying their time together is over.

joined Jan 24, 2022

A loner, a gyaru, an ikemen, and a kid

joined Jan 24, 2022

Also this topic were Lesbians has to pretebd to be straight makes my blood boil,

Bisexual people exist.

Yes, but a woman who deeply loves another woman and is socially pressured into marrying a man instead is a terrible example of it. They might be bi or might not be, we can't just assume that label on anyone simply based on their history

And yet, there you go, assuming their sexuality. i wasn't putting a "label" on them, so much as saying that, since we're not told they were uncomfortable and in a loveless marriage, there's no evidence that they were not also attracted to the men they married, regardless of if they would have preferred to stay with their high school sweetheart (and, to add to that, no evidence that the relationship they had as children would have lasted into adulthood anyway, meeting again as adults and picking up the spark is not the same as a long-term relationship).

Ya'll on these comment sections always have to boil everything down to the simplest answer just so you can take offense to it, say you're being open while being really close-minded, refusing to see that anyone could be happy, or anything good could come out of relationships other than the yuri ones which are the focus of the story. It's quite frankly infuriating.

Edit to say: the more I think about it, the more infuriating it is. We're specifically shown in this chapter that while the teacher was wrong to say what she did to the girls, it was simply the catalyst for them thinking about their future. When asked if she wanted her own children, Rei said she probably did. And the close of the chapter is Rei still not committing to a yuri relationship, she still thought it was the right thing that she have and be invested in her own child. So patronising to dismiss people's feelings on these issues just because you might think differently. There are a lot more perspectives in this world that just your narrow worldview where apparently, anyone who is in a lesbian relationship as a teenager must never ever have her own reasons for eventually marrying a man. Never.

I mean, to each their own interpretation, but through out this chapter, both Rei and Mayuko repeatedly say those were the happiest days of their lives and wished it could've lasted forever.

Bisexual people exist. Two bisexual women who love each other, but are being forced apart to marry men is still biphobic.