I'm sorry but I can't fathom how anyone is confused over that being Erika and thinking it's a new character.

Also preferring a different haircut is one thing but calling it ugly is bizzare. I personally like her new look and think it's consistent with her character. Then again I like the prince tomboy/masc look in general.

First time I feel conflicted on finding their entire dynamic hot. They technically don't show what happened during the fade to black, but it's hard to imagine Fuuko wanted to have sex with her in that moment. At the same time, she 1kept the bloody uniform?? Of course that wouldn't make Mashiro's actions right, but Fuuko's feelings regarding her seem to be really complicated.

Based on Fuuko's narration at the end, it seems her complicated feelings are rooted in the toxic, defeatist mindset Mashiro has instilled in her: that she is destined never to be anyone's first, should settle for what Mashiro provides, and that they are, in some sense, kindred spirits because of this. It's a very nasty and unhealthy idea, and one that Fuuko likely clings to whenever things don't go her way (as they did recently with Yuni).

I don't think Fuuko has any genuine romantic feelings for Mashiro beyond that, and Mashiro's strength comes from keeping Fuuko isolated and depressed. She's like a parasite taking an opportunity. This is not sustainable and not the endgame for Fuuko (I'm sure). It also potentially positions Yuni as Fuuko's savior, since she can show Fuuko that she can be someone's number 1. If the author intends for Fuuko to have a good ending, this chapter makes me more confident that she and Yuni are endgame.

This really gets me thinking, what does Mashiro ultimately want? She claims she doesn't love fuuko, but you have to be obsessed to some degree to track her down & stalk her. I wonder if she's still playing around with any other girls or if she's dedicating her time only to Fuuko. On a second read, she's actually a much more complicated character than I thought. It says a lot that she wants Fuuko to live alone and die alone, almost like she wants her to share in her suffering.

I feel so bad for Fuuko, and this explains so much how she ended up the way she did and her personality, on top of the other stuff we learned about her in the past.

Also, once again we have more religious symbolism. Mashiro praying to god, Fuuko's virginity literally being taken inside the church and her being "stained" by her own blood. You could also interpret Mashiro's words as her confessing her sins. And love stated to be some kind of curse god bestowed upon humans. You could also interpret some of this as meta commentary on Class-S? They'll never actually find true love with other women, it's "just" sexual desire. (I'm 100% reading too deep into this Manga but it's fun so idc).

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Woah, wait a minute, did Mashiro fucking do THAT to Fuuko on that one page? Her fingers are wet and bloody, and you see blood dripping down Fuuko's leg.

If I'm right than did she technically sexually assault her?

yeah I'm a bit surprised how few people are really noticing this, and that it isn't tagged with dubcon at absolute bare minimum.

If you look at the previous pages, she's just apathetic and doesn't refuse Mashiro.

On page 21, you can see Fuuko willingly kissing Mashiro.

Also, the imagery of the spread is clear: she's covering the eyes of her child self herself, symbolizing that she willingly loses her innocence. Emotionless sex doesn't mean rape or dubious consent (also, they have at most a couple years difference).

That's a good point. I'll refrain from calling it SA, but boy is it still fucked up how she took her virginity and then ditched her.

i fell off reading this a few years ago and now only read it every once in a while out of morbid curiosity. it's like a train wreck i can't look away from lol. all i can say is, someone please tell mashiro about aromanticism before the body count gets even higher. i know that's probably not what the author intended but i haven't seen something THIS aro coded in a while.

Does aromanticism regularly conflate with a propensity for committing sexual assault and a general disregard for and contempt of the emotional well-being of others?

Interesting.

I Guess this comment and another one above 'hoping they fuck again' answered my question lol. Idk how anyone thinks Mashiro's issues are related to aromanticism. She has psychological issues.

First time I feel conflicted on finding their entire dynamic hot. They technically don't show what happened during the fade to black, but it's hard to imagine Fuuko wanted to have sex with her in that moment. At the same time, she 1kept the bloody uniform?? Of course that wouldn't make Mashiro's actions right, but Fuuko's feelings regarding her seem to be really complicated.

I actually really like that Mashiro is 100% a villain, and I hope she doesn't get redeemed. It would have to be amazing writing to convince me that she would change into a good person. This Manga has somehow turned the toxicity even higher.

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Woah, wait a minute, did Mashiro fucking do THAT to Fuuko on that one page? Her fingers are wet and bloody, and you see blood dripping down Fuuko's leg.

If I'm right than did she technically sexually assault her?

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This chapter was cute. I feel like it would be fun if she found out she's bisexual. I feel like that's the cherry on top that will send these chronically online psychos over the edge.

Comments like these are so bizzare. Do you truly think the love interest being possibly bisexual is what people were initially angry about? You'd have to remove all context from how this story was introduced.

I'm not going blanket say ALL the negative response to the manga was from trans folks, but in the little collage, I saw the trans flag in a bunch of the display names, so I assume the reaction was not of dogwhistle transmisogynist "ew why are these [men] in yuri" type comments but rather "this manga seems to be writing momiji in a stereotypical way and I don't like it" esque comment. Which I don't think is TERF or transphobic to hear from a transfem online? I think there's a general sentiment of recognizing a bunch of Otokonoko / crossdressing manga to have transfeminine readings under particular lens, so this manga being examined under such lens will face scrutiny in how the characters are currently being handled. I got Nothing against the scanlator, though, translate what you wanna translate

Exactly. A lot of the negative reaction was from trans people, because of the way the synopsis was presented on Twitter. I find it odd that some people think the reaction was motivated by transphobia, especially when the MC isn't written as a trans woman.

There's a lot I could get into about the entire trope of Otokonoko/Crossdressing in Anime & Manga and how they're written, but that's a bigger discussion. Regardless, the first chapter of this was pretty mediocre even without the bad handling of queer stuff, so I'm not interested in reading further. The Scanlator is free to do whatever they want regardless of complaints.

why did the fatal twelve guy pivot to soap opera esque yuri lol

Sounds like you haven't read his other stuff.

This manga has many tropes that I like, even the girl's completely fanservice personality is great (the MC is boring though, her personality does not complement well that of the blonde girl. I would prefer her to be more like Shion from MB) but for some reason each chapter is more and more boring, I think it is a problem of the lack of fluidity in panels and drawings.

Just read the Light Novel, the Manga skips a bunch of stuff and the pacing is worse, not to mention the art is worse too. This is a pretty weak adaptation.

These kind of chapters are so funny. Poor sweet Yuni, so neglected, but at least she has a nice friend whose mouth she can plunge her tongue into. Wholesome ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶

I rather checked out of this manga a good while ago and only catch up once in a while now to see what goofiness is happening. That said, the author could do the funniest thing here... make Mashiro x Yuni happen, in whatever convoluted way. Come on Iwami-sensei, more chaos, you know you want to!

I know it's for jokes but what makes this Manga actually work is that the chaos and trashy actions actually make logical sense. A Manga with bad writing would certainly do something like make Mashiro & Yuni suddenly happen to add more drama, but this story isn't like that. Nothing happens for no reason. Yuki's true nature slowly being teased out to now is a good example of this.

It's why I was worried when Mashiro was suddenly introduced multiple chapters ago. It had the chance of ruining the 4 way dynamic that we already had for cheap drama, but letting Kiyoko cook as shown that she does actually add to the story, specifically for Fuuko's character.

One of the synopsis/descriptions mentions her using the excuse of "not being in love, so it's fine and doesn't count as cheating", so I wasn't really surprised by that. Honestly this still feels like the prologue/build up to all the juicy stuff that'll happen later.

The novels have a MTL, but I hope someone actually properly translates it eventually, because it deserves to have a quality translation. The story goes in some interesting/unexpected directions.

This is a pretty popular Yuri LN with three volumes out. And from what I understand, it's actually a love quadrangle

i had to google that spoiler just to make sure. wow. okay, I'm definitely looking forward to this then.

That, and a couple other spoilers made me interested in reading the novels. It definitely goes in some interesting directions I didn't expect.

So it looks like Aomi helped the MC with that answer in make-up class, even though she was apparently "sleeping". That, plus the synopsis, seems to imply that she's pretty smart sense she ends up tutoring the MC. Yet she's going to make-up classes. I wonder what the reason is then, for her failing classes if she's actually that smart. Her showing up late and sleeping through the class shows she doesn't care thay much about it either.

I could definitely see her using people's attraction to her as a way to free room and board, but it also seemed like she was already flirting with MC before that even came up as a possibility. Then again she did say "then this will be easier" so maybe she did have that in mind when flirting with her.

There's obviously the comparisons to 'My Girlfriend's Not Here Today', but I find this one interesting because the MC is the "homewrecker" this time, even though the cheater might be the one pursuing her from the beginning? Very excited to see what their actual dynamics will be like in that regard, and the mess that'll come from it.

this looks so damn low effort, from the drawing to the plot, not to mention the "translation" lol

Not liking the artstyle is one thing, but low effort??? What a bizzare thing to say, especially about the translation, which reads perfectly fine. This group is translating a bunch of other Manga too, and they've all been fantastic.

Like damn, I'm happy this even got picked up by actual translators and wasn't just translated with AI slop.

She will be like Adachi, but evil,xd
Well, maybe is not real love, but lust instead

Funny you mention Adachi, because Hitoma Iruma actually recommended this series.

This is a pretty popular Yuri LN with three volumes out. And from what I understand, it's actually a love quadrangle

The title and tags should also tell you exactly what kind of story this is, so if it's not your cup of tea, I would turn around.

I'm excited to finally read this, as I've heard good things about it. The novels do have a translation but it's AI. Hopefully this gets someone interested in properly translating the novels, or a publisher picks them up.

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And this just proves that Yuki is just as much as a bitch as the rest of them

You didn't realize this when it was revealed she ruined her best friends relationship out of twisted jealousy, while gaslighting herself into believing she did it for good reasons? This is just doubling down on what was already revealed, that she's probably the most manipulative and psychotic character in the entire manga.

Why are there as many as 3 authors? One writes the LN, one illustrates the LN, and one draws the manga? And I heard that the WN version of this series has already ended, is that right?"

Yes, that's right. The LN has unfortunately been cancelled as of October this year, but the original WN on kakuyomu is complete. I'm not sure what business decisions led to a series that has just gotten its bunko version cancelled now getting a manga, but I'm not complaining. This author and the way she handles queer depictions is one of my favourites

I didn't here about the cancelation. Any link to that announcement?

Also I must say, I think Minori has perfected her new art style. It started out kinda rough but you could tell she was experimenting and getting better at it with every new chapter.

woughhh they're so sweet.... i know we're never gonna see them go all the way but it would be so good

except we already have????

Maybe they meant seeing the sex fully without cutting away? In which case, they should check out Minori'a fanbox and the Shino to Ren doodles she draws there.

Speaking of which, with them basically being the same characters but in an alternate universe, they're absolutely having sex every night.

I'm surprised no one has brought up the fact that Yuki knew Nanase was a lesbian and dating a girl, spread malicious rumors about them, and caused them to break up? Which is probably the main cause behind her trauma and why she prefers hiding her relationships now.

Even beyond that, this chapter shows just how toxic and obsessive she actually is. There were a couple moments where it felt like Yuki was purposefully trying to get between Yuni and Nanase, and now this confirms she wants complete ownership of her. This is honestly more fucked up than Fuuko in my opinion, and goes beyond just being a toxic friend. This is behavior that makes you want to completely avoid them.

Before I thought Nanase and Yuki made sense as a couple, but now I think that's actually a terrible outcome for Nanase. Yuki is a huge red flag and would be a terrible partner to date.

Also forgot to mention that she justified spreading those rumors by implying she was protecting her from homophobia, which is hilarious.

To be honest, I'm not surprised at all. It was implied that she was toxic a long time ago with the glances and the possessiveness. The fact that she only realized now that she had romantic feelings towards Nanase surprises me though. She probably had internalized homophobia though. It doesn't justify her actions, but it does explain it.

Honestly I think she might have more issues than just internalized homophobia. She seems very mentally unwell.

I am glad that it's confirmed we have 0 normal girls in this Manga now.

I'm surprised no one has brought up the fact that Yuki knew Nanase was a lesbian and dating a girl, spread malicious rumors about them, and caused them to break up? Which is probably the main cause behind her trauma and why she prefers hiding her relationships now.

Even beyond that, this chapter shows just how toxic and obsessive she actually is. There were a couple moments where it felt like Yuki was purposefully trying to get between Yuni and Nanase, and now this confirms she wants complete ownership of her. This is honestly more fucked up than Fuuko in my opinion, and goes beyond just being a toxic friend. This is behavior that makes you want to completely avoid them.

Before I thought Nanase and Yuki made sense as a couple, but now I think that's actually a terrible outcome for Nanase. Yuki is a huge red flag and would be a terrible partner to date.

Also forgot to mention that she justified spreading those rumors by implying she was protecting her from homophobia, which is hilarious.

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Actually let me take some of that back. On the surface it's sweet but Nanase continues to make questionable decisions, like running off with Yuki and leaving Yuni alone with strangers and not even introducing her to her mom. This chapter also really emphasizes how much Nanase's life revolves around the club when she's never brought over any friends outside of the club. Small thing like this continue to add up and show that Nanase still isn't taking the relationship as seriously as she should, and Yuni is actually being kind of a pushover to Nanase strangely enough.

I already mentioned Yuki, but yea. She's purposefully trying to get between them now, which is something I expected.

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That was actually a really sweet chapter? Yuni enjoying her time with Nanase, meeting her mom. Like this chapter almost tricked me into thinking this relationship could be saved. But then there's Yuki who's now purposefully getting in the way between them, and visibly seething in the background now.

Fuuko's ex is like a time bomb ready to go off any minute, so I'm still prepared for shit to get worse eventually.