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joined Feb 10, 2020

hmm the whole cheating plot of Sumin was simply created to let her experience Seju's shoes from 10 years ago and realize how poorly she had treated her during the time. It was supposed to free Sumin's revengeful feelings towards Seju, forgive her and move on. And she did. But that couldn't justify how bad the writing was when Sungji forgave Sumin like nothing happened. The part Sumin chased after Sungji on the bus and walked her home saying to Sungji "It's more painful to see you having a hard time. You've been in pain for so long" tells me she never did try to understand Seju, even though (in my opinion) the pains she endured for 10 long years from Sumin, her family and everything were much worse than Sungji's case. The author was good at creating plot twist & story potential, but too bad she always ended up screwing it with her double-standards. Perhaps Team Gajj could sympathize Sumin only.

last edited at Feb 24, 2020 9:28PM

joined Feb 10, 2020

We the fans are disappointed because it’s started so damn promising, but ended up so damn bland, tasteless. It felt like a child writing covered with beautiful art.

completely agreed. I believe many people managed to keep on following this poor written story thanks to its art. The outcome can be clearly seen if we took Seju out of the picture or supposedly it was awfully drawn by an amateur artist. Even if I'm a Seju's fan, I'd be very pleased if the author could spend time to develop Sungji and SuminSungji's lovestory more instead. But what can we do now btw? The ending is fixed, and so did its story development. At least most readers still prefer SuminSungji over SejuSumin and that's what the childish author wanna see even if they are boring like hell.

joined Feb 10, 2020

for god's sake i didn't try to defend any character nor even try to convince anyone to like and believe in a certain story message. Because one way or another people would tend to see what it means from different perspective. I was saying that what I wrote above could be one way of seeing the story as well. Let's never expect it to false or true because to some people it could be right and to some others it could be hecking wrong. The same to all of our arguments towards the story. But 1 thing for sure is people should get out of their own fantasy, accept its ending even if it's bad to you and move on with another worthy manga. Why i'm saying this? Rather than the characters who have problems, it is actually the author who's showing her double standards for the character she likes.

Has anyone here checked TG's tweets ever since the story started? All they know about is Sumin this and Sumin that. They couldn't think of a good way to develop Sungji as a character and how to progress SuminSungji's relationship in a healthy acceptable light. I've been lurking here for years and I guess most of you have known Seju was only supposed to be a side character. But did anyone manage to see what the author was trying so hard to tell is all about the parallel scenes between SuminSungji and SuminSeju? Almost all of the things Sumin had ever had with Seju before were shown being done together with Sungji later on. So what were they trying to prove here? Does that mean an overdeveloped side character Seju was used as a tool a support SuminSungji's relationship? That no matter how precious their first love was, no matter how much memories they had together would be outshined and easily replaced by the existence of Sungji? At the end of main story "What does the fox say" btw? Was that Sumin - as a fox, probably say Seju had lost this game and it's only Sungji who she needs now?

--------so iF that's true---- Was it a childish storytelling? To me it was, but maybe to some people, it wasn't. The problem in this story was not created by any character, it wasn't created by Sumin who's being shown as a badass, or Seju who suffered and be developed more than she should have throughout the story, or Sungji who's being treated like a doormat. or Won who as people said had no personality. The one to be blamed here is the author. They were confused with what they wanted to tell, and ended up screwing the story even if it's unrealistic like the Sun sets in the east. Because all of that, I would choose not to waste my time complicating the story any further.

last edited at Feb 10, 2020 8:54AM

joined Feb 10, 2020

Wow, now that you mentioned it I suddenly start liking the story. Thanks for giving us your lights and helping us see the story from a perspective we never thought existed!

pftt i don't need anyone to like the story.

joined Feb 10, 2020

Defend Sumin as much as you like, she’s the main character and the world she revolve around her for sure, double standards or not you won’t care because you only see things from Sumin’s pov

I didn't defend Sumin. If i were Seju and realized what had this piece of shit ex-gf done to me, physically and mentally, putting the blame on me only for 10 long years while knowing too well it takes two to tangle and had never said at least an "I'm sorry" to me at the end, I would never be crazy enough to ask for her forgiveness nor talk things out with her again. Don't I have self-esteem? I.don't. need. her. forgiveness.to. go. on, I can't see the point of working things out with her. It's useless to talk to the wall lmao instead, I would rather not see her face any more time for the rest of my life. Can't you see I'm seeing things on Seju's pov? Seriously only fools would fall in love with someone like Sumin, only psycho would continue loving her while knowing she couldn't give you anything but shit once you've done her damage lol?

last edited at Feb 10, 2020 2:50AM

joined Feb 10, 2020

lol gotta create an account to say this: some of you seriously need to grow up. The message of this story is to accept the reality and move on from whatever you experienced in the past. A mistake committed, once it's unforgiven, it will never be forgiven no matter how hard you try (take the cheating for example, it was taken place under different circumstances in Seju's case and Sumin's case so don't ever compare it) Sumin was determined to let go of Seju back then but because of long time memories of them being together that she refused to go back to the present and talk things out with Seju and vice versa, due to her dramatic upbringing, Seju couldn't find any person who love her in this world besides Sumin like any ordinary people out there- she didn't even have a single friend lol so she clinged onto this relationship of hers and Sumin even if it was just obsession. Their feelings were not the same like before, like Seju said in the end: "now even if you get together with me, you will miss your other love rather than the me in the PAST" Seju finally faced the reality that Sumin only love a Baek Seju from 10 years ago, outside of that, ever since from the cheating, she's no longer the Baek Seju Sumin can love and will ever love with romantic feelings anymore. Same to Seju when she opened up about these with Won "I know it's obsession, it became a habit, afraid of changes, comfortable with familiarity. i held onto these pains to feel alive" She was obviously trapped herself in comfort-zone, a comfort-zone of having the old Sumin who used to love her by her side, to not feel abandoned. It was no longer love lmao they were literally taking advantage of the other's existence to fill in emptiness.

So why should they faced their flaws together like an adult after years later knowing that they don't love each other anymore? What's that point? The only possibility is they will go back to being friends. But please remember, for the terms friends, they could have befriended when Seju said goodbye to Sumin and when she went back to Hello Studio to transfer the company to the new CEO in side stories. Sumin looked like she had no problems with that (i don't know if it's the same to Sungji) but it was Seju who decided to cut off any contact they had together. It was Seju who dropped the note Sumin gave her in the airport. It was Seju who spitted out the mitten Sumin knitted for her and disgarded it like it never existed later on. It's all up to Seju how their relationship status would be like years later but too bad it's still Seju who wanna put a period to it. In the end the only one who learnt the life lesson of letting go is Seju.

People should learn how to differentiate the past from the present, the "I need you" from "I love you". Was it that hard to see Sumin and Seju only needed each other throughout their 10 years of torture? So why should a couple that is no longer in love go back together? I don't know about Sumin's case because it seems like she has no character development after all but for Seju, she has learnt many life lessons from Sumin, her mother, the brother who tried to kill her and from Won as well, including:
+ Sumin: to know that no matter what people say, nothing will change the fact that they used to love each other. And that should be enough. No need to hold onto past memories anymore. Also, if it's not yours, it will never be yours lmao.
+ Her mother: rather than being abandonded, she was actually loved at first sight by her mother, and brother Saehyun, she learnt not to give up on life no matter how bad the situation she was in, like her mother didn't have any second thought on giving up on her even though she knew it's so risky to give birth to Seju.
+ Third brother: to learn the truth from him, to learn how to stand up for the people she care, and for the very first time she could bring herself to take actions, rather than sitting around watching the garbage stabbing her back. She learnt from being a passive to an active to her abhorrent family.
+ Won: Won's life was similar to her, losing the person she loved just because of her only mistake. But more unluckily than Seju, Won had no chance to regret and redeem her mistake. She taught Seju how to move on, to know that it doesn't matter what she had experienced in the past, she had to keep on living no matter what, and in life you don't necessarily find a purpose to live, all you need to do is live on. I believe some folks translated the author's tweet on what she wanna deliver in ONE this way.

Please don't just use your feelings to read the story. Life is not about romantic love only lmao it doesn't mean Sumin and Seju lost the whole world once they lost each other. I hope you don't have to rely on any people to live lmao What's the matter if you're heartbroken anyway? Move on and find another one to love llol after all they are just past lovers and that bond can be broken in just a blink of eye like any other real life couples out there. In the end those who can't accept the reality but keep on trapping themselves in the past broken memories are the most pitiful ones llol This is absolutely the only life lesson i've learnt from reading all of these wdtfs-related comments.

last edited at Feb 10, 2020 1:36AM