@eee Are you slow or just stupid?

YO415, how shameless of you to ask me that!

I told you that literally people are saying this on several forums, but you understand that its only my opinion or imagination lol, so you must have problems to understand simple things... so?, slow or just stupid?

@eee Are you slow or just stupid?

@MacySan I have met teenagers who are much more reasonable and mature than this Matsuri girl who acts like a cocky and arrogant baby, and I would dare to say that you are the same.

@eee I have to laugh. I'm not basing my opinion only on polls, but also in the comments of fans, since I frequent several websites and forums, in spanish and english. But keep in denial. People don't like this couple, they preferred to see Seju dead or alone rather than back with Sumin.

@Taisukeikun I was not calling Won a tree lol, I was just having fun with the stupid polls and these girls. Because it's very funny that they insist on Won's poor character development when the story just starts, or when they say "oh this is just a romance for teenagers, poor writing, WonxSeju interactions seem soo forced, bla bla"... when the story just start!!!. They expect TG tell us everything in only 9 or 10 chapters, my god, they are a joke. It seems that they don't understand that developing a good story along with the characters, TAKE TIME.

@Taisukeikun Bravo girl. Nothing to add to your comment, you said everything, but you're talking with a wall, sadly.

@matsuri_wins Where is the link? i'm waiting

@MacySan You are trying too hard. In all the polls that I saw about "who is your favorite character?" Seju wins by far.
In all the polls I saw about "who is your favorite couple? SuminxSungji wins by far. This doesn't tell you something?. The "taste" and the opinion of people doesn't gets influenced of what is "popular", things were always this way even before One and Paradise.

I think I'm not wrong when I say that Seju is the most popular character in WDTFS. People only hate SuminxSeju, they just don't like this couple from the beginning, so obviously they're not going to vote for them in any poll. I'ts so hard to accept?. From the beginning, people wanted to see Seju happy with someone else (with Nami for example because there was nobody else, although some of us believed that Nami was poor choice for her), that she need to stop getting in the middle of SuminxSungji and begging for love, cuz she deserves so much more. And I know many Sungji fans who think the same, that she also deserved better, but at the end of the day, SuminxSungji are not the worst option to vote in a poll lol. And that's why I think they were always more popular until now.

@eee (or should say matsuri?) It's hilarious that people are willing to vote for Sejuxafuckingtree, rather that SejuxSumin lol. Fans dislike this couple so much.

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Oh, since when are people so pressed about what others ship? Like using the "you are a Seju x Sumin supporter!!!1!" as an insult?

I'd personally love to read a story about a couple like them to ends up together. This is not happening in here obviously, but it would be something different than the usual stories. Like, maybe make them heal separately and then be together. And I understand the author has already developed them to be incompatible, so I'm talking in general. Love stories don't always have to follow a certain "right" way, or always have a happy ending. We have tons of these already

There is nothing wrong with shipping a fictional couple, besides I never use this as an insult?, it's what she is, she should admit it and not hide under other pretexts and stop sounding so arrogant and pretentious as fuck in some of her comments, especially her comment above, but she was always like that. Believing that she is better than others fans and even TG. It's sad when shipping becomes so obsessive and you refuse to see other points of view and you can't enjoy or understand the story.

But this is not something about shipping, or our personal tastes in stories (read my point 4 again) is about what TG wants to tell in their own story and the message they are trying to tell. It doesn't matter if you or I want a happy or bad ending, we have no power in this, because I repeat it again, it's TG story and they have already confirmed the message they want to give to us several times. Do you understand my point?. Or are you the same as the girl above? And if you don't want to see a happy ending, then you should look for other stories because WDTFS will disappoint you. The other day I was talking to a friend that I personally would like, for example, if Won died at the end of "One", because I love sad stories and this would made Seju a very tragic character, that's why I love her and sympathize with her. But I doubt that TG does something like that, this would not fit with their message, and because as I say before the script is quite predictable (even though this is not necessarily a bad thing I guess), we should not put much hope in TG.

And for the girl above. I find it hilarious and sad that you think that you are better than the rest of the world, just because your special mind wants a darker and more complex ending, not like the inferior beings who are enjoying the story and just want a "happy ending". I dont have a problem with shippers, or if you want a different ending, my problem is with your shitty attitude.

I'm lurking in several pages on twitter and facebook, Tumblr and Forums, in Spanish and English and let me tell you that Sumin and Seju never had many fans, only a small part of the fandom, Sungji and Sumin were always most popular by far, but now Seju and Won are winning, especially in Latin forums, where they HATE the idea that Sumin and Seju could be back together, although this doesn't matter cuz I don't think the opinion of the fans could change things, so what is your point for al this?. And btw can you send me the link of that poll? I'm curious.

1. The message of the story is hopeful, it's a story about healing, confirmed by the author.
   Really, girl?, really?. Sumin changes thanks to Sungji, because she wants to be a better person FOR her, and because she doesn't want only a relationship with Sungji, she wants to spend her life with her, chapter 108 made it clear and I suspect that in "Will" these two are going to get married at the end, TG creates great stories BUT they are predictable AS FUCK most of the time. Oh and Seju also changes thanks to Sungji since she made her see that she was hurting the person she loved and Seju finally accepts the truth of her actions. That is why the blonde is so important for the plot, since in 10 years she was the only one capable of ending this toxic cycle between Sumin and Seju.

2. Sungji AND, AND Seju deserve better, it's funny that you only mention Sungji omg, you're so transparent.

3. Sungji is kind and patient, not a doormat (maybe you used to be a doormat and that is why you are so obsseseed and hurt with this word?). A person who is able to give you time and space to understand you and help you is hard to find these days. If you believe that a person with these qualities are bad then I feel sorry for you. Look at Seju, she was not any of this when Sumin lost her parents and look what happened.
   So by what you say the love between Seju and Sumin was not "real love". Because they didn't want to change or improve at any time during 10 damn years. They could do it at any time but they preferred that hatred and resentment win over their love because in Sumin own words, they are cowards, too fearful and weak to change and fight for the person that they used to love. It seems that their special connection was not so special at the end of the day.

4. I understand that sometimes a story can disappoint and even anger us if it doesn't fit our expectations.
   For example, if it had been for me, Sumin would have ended up alone at the end, because that's what she deserved, and Sungji and Seju would end up together instead lol, but it's not my story, it belongs to TG and an ending like this would not make sense and fit the message they're trying to give, healing and hope, you get my point?. This was clear from the beginning and if you wait for something else, then you are just fooling yourself. I accepted that the story was going to disappoint me in the end, but I enjoy it anyway, because even if it doesn't fit my desires it was a good story and the characters are good too.

5. You are a SejuxSumin shipper,

.From mental, physical to sexual needs Sumin is too damn weak for Seju. I'm seriously glad that Seju didn't continue being with a person like that because if not, I'm afraid either Seju or Sumin or even both of them would die young when the assassin comes lol.

I almost drowned in my hot tea with this. Thank you lol.

So you admit Sungji got the short end of the stick, and you still want SungjixSumin? Jeezus. Sungji deserves better than Sumin, she is literally too good to be in this story surrounded by these asshole people lol I wish she just ends up with her best friend, that girl actually loved her. Can't you tell the difference? -_-

Basically, I don't like SungjixSumin because I feel Sungji got massively short-changed, she is in a toxic relationship with Sumin (the irony) and I don't like SejuxDowon because I feel if Dowon is this passive character then Seju will just be narcissistic, jealous and bitchy forever. The message seems to be that ideal partners are those that enable you to be an asshole rather than challenging you to change for the better, which sucks.

BTW you are right, I actually do know a couple people who would be similar to Sungji. All of them are kinda treated like crap by their partners though... I used to try to help, but nowadays I don't empathize with them, because at the end of the day it's their responsibility to have some self-respect.

How old are you?, because it seems you can't read. I never said that I want SungjixSumin and this only shows that you are a young crazy shipper that can't see nothing beyond a "shipping war". In fact, I stop liking this couple since Sumin cheating on Sungji for all the reasons I mentioned in my previous post. Cheating is something that I personally, would never forgive my partner, but there are people who do it and continue as if nothing had happened, happy in their bubble of falsehood, this is something that bothers me, but I can't interfere in their private lives or tell them what to do.

No couple in WDTFS is ideal and happy, all the characters have their problems and failures, like in real life I guess, but like it or not, Sungji and Sumin are the main couple, and I doubt that we will see Seju and Sumin together again, whether we like it or not.

But at least be honest, you don't like SungjixSumin and SejuxDowon because you are an obsessive shipper of SuminxSeju.

"The message seems to be that ideal partners are those that enable you to be an asshole rather than challenging you to change for the better, which sucks"

True. It's not as if Sumin tried her best to change and be a better person so her relationship with Sungji will work. It's not like Seju is much more honest with her feelings and the mistakes she made when she talked with Won. Sumin and Seju are changing for better, what hurts you is that they are doing it with other people and not together.

Seju also deserves so much much much BETTER than Sumin, she deserved it even 100x more than Sungji because Sumin had been treating her like shit for 10 years.

I always thought the same, Sungji and Seju deserve someone much better than Sumin. Especially Seju. Its beyond me how anyone can want them to be together again.

UGHHH I'm not gonna say anything to your obsession over Seju x Sumin even though the author addressed too clearly and consistently that they are not the main couple they want and they would never get back together.

But to claim that Dowon and Sungji are 2D af is too arrogant you know, lmao just because you can't and have never been able to meet them in real life doesn't mean they don't exist. I don't know much about Sungji but I myself have an elder sister who's very similar to Dowon lol, the most obvious good traits of hers are perseverance and patience. I don't defend any ship and won't never discuss about it here but trust me, people like Dowon and Sungji DO EXIST. I mean what you expect from them? You're getting upset because some characters didn't react the way you want or the storytelling is too dissatisfied? Are you even the author/the characters to consider that? It's funny af that you keep shipping a bird and a fish.

Then this girl can't sympathize with a character just because she don't know anyone like that in "her real life"?. I'm right?. She don't realize how stupid sounds that?

I have met many women like Sungji in real life, even older women who are exactly like her, who love blindly and are willing to forgive all the mistakes and cheatings to their husbands, and that's why I like her and why I feel for her, because she's more real to me. On the other hand I never meet girls like Seju and Sumin, someone who spends 10 years in revenge mode lol. But I like and enjoy all the characters in WDTFS, each one of these womans brings something different and interesting to the plot. And if the author is able to write a character that I can understand, or have motivations that I can understand or allow me to sympathize with that character, then the author achieve that I like and supports that character. I don't necessarily have to meet someone in real life like Seju to be able to like her and sympathize with her. And I repeat myself, she don't realize how stupid this sounds?

That's Sumin for you. By her own admission, she's never been good with her choice of words. So her leaving the note for Seju to wish her safe journey was probably the best she could do in her current state. I mean, I wouldn't expect her to have the confidence to convey her farewells in person, especially to an ex whom she realized she had hurt for ten long years.

I agree with you, that nothe in Paradise says it all, she doesn't regret having meet Seju and having loved her she forgives her and at the same time she lets her go. It's time to forget and move on to something new. And I'm very sure that they spoke enough in the main story and there is not much left to say ratter than "goodbye, safe journey". What Seju need is to forgive herself for having hurt the only person who ever love her. That is her pain and the only thing that torments her. It was pretty clear in the last chapter.