they just want to see the fictional characters they care about be happy together.

But that's the thing, in this case (and in most cases where I've seen people calling for a poly ending) it clearly wouldn't make them happy, both Nadeshiko and Jun have made it clear that they want a monogamous relationship, so wanting a poly ending here is just weird and a bit absurd, I don't mind poly IF it fits the characters, their relationships and what they want, which is clearly not the case here, it's also becoming a bit a running theme for people to ask for poly ending when it makes no sense, so yeah it does get a bit anoying after a while. I've also seen multiple posts on this forum basically saying "if you don't like poly that's only because you were brainwashed by society" which is not something that is going to elicit any positive responses.

Because you see it in that way, on another point of view, is just Yuzu and her insecurities starting an unnecessary drama once again. It's not Mei's fault if her former classmate is in love with her, she's just making a move for academy's sake and the guy is the allie that she needs. (Let's try not to forget that Yuzu always knew that Mei's dream is to take over the academy and agreed to support her) There's nothing that make you thing that she's doing anything out of the plan, just because the guy says that he likes Mei, doesn't mean that she's gonna reciprocate. I can say: "Ok. Just a teen girl, with teen dramas". But that movie has been played a lot of times. Like you say: It's a loop

Yuzu has every reason to be insecure and worried though, especially when Mei starts ranting about "the future of the academy" once again, Yuzu reaction is the direct result of Mei past actions and behavior, let's not forget that Mei almost ended up in not one but TWO arranged marriages for the sake of the academy, and everytime Yuzu was the one who had to save Mei from her own sick sense of "duty", Mei has a long history of making stupid decisions when the future of the academy is on the line, if you combine this with the fact that she is completely and utterly incapable of expressing her feelings and reassuring Yuzu and it's pretty obvious why Yuzu is worried, her fears are very much justified, Mei hasn't done a very good job at showing to Yuzu that she has changed.

And honestly, knowing Saburouta, I wouldn't even be surprised if Mei ended up engaged once again to "secure the future of the academy".

Citrus feels like a circle at this point, it ALWAYS loop back to the same thing: Mei puts the academy above everything else and completely disregard Yuzu's feelings and fears, drama ensue, drama gets resolved (but never thanks to Mei who systematically do everything she can to make things worse), Mei behave like a somewhat normal human being instead of a robot for a very short period of time, then back to square one with Mei putting the academy above everything else.

At this point I just want Saburouta to get to the wedding part as fast as possible and be done with it.

Ah, no, not quite. In Japan, there is some discussion about the exact meanings of "yuri" and "rezu" (and "GL" as well) but as for "shoujo ai" everyone knows what it means. "Shoujo ai" means heterosexual loli porn.

Here, in the English-speaking world, "shoujo ai" was at one point fanspeak for soft yuri, but it's become obsolete since then -- mainly because people found what the real meaning of the term in Japan was!

The term shoujo ai is still used quite often in the west to talk about yuri with no sexual content unfortunately, even though it makes no sense and it never has, a good example of that would be MyAnimeList which still uses both shoujo ai and yuri as categories for anime and manga, the yuri category for anime is absolutely hilarious btw since many of the anime in that category are not even yuri to begin with, they just have some lesbian sex scenes for fan-service yet somehow that counts as yuri.

Not gonna lie, the lack of incest in the recent chapters is quite disappointing.

I can't wait for the father to tell her that he has arranged a marriage for her with some random rich guy, I would honestly be surprised if it doesn't happen.

Freedom of speech only applies to the American government. Forums, on the other hand, have every right to ban you for being an asshole.

I never said the contrary, yes forums can ban anyone for any reason, that doesn't change the fact that it's utterly fucking ridiculous, this is how you end up with echo chambers.

And if simply expressing an opinion that someone might dislike make you an asshole then I guess we're all assholes.

The user in question follows a pattern of comment about how yuri should always be "pure", so anything portrayed besides "innocent wholesomeness" seems to warrant a mini rant about how it's gross etc. Hating on a bi character is just one part of their whole purity shtick.

Well, that's just their opinion, your free to ignore them or to tell them that you think their opinion is shit, but as long as they don't say stuff like "all bi should die" and there are no direct insult then I don't think a ban is warranted, but in the end I'm not a mod so whatever.

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Bisexual...hmmm, from Nekomura...hmm, i`ll avoid this...
I got very triggered by this story
Pd. Toxic relationship...
Really i feel dissapointed and surprised that Nekomura draw this...

The fact that mc is bisexual is like, what matters the least in this story.

Oh no, for me it matter a lot...it said what the story going to, and exactly going to be toxic...I read a lot of yuri stories in the past, and i know when the story become bad...i don't see the art, most the story and this is toxic relationship, besides i have a big phobia (mostly disgusting reading stories that include bisexual girls)...so that count to me, not my tastes.

I'm noticing a pattern in your comments. You need to stop referring to everything you don't like as toxic, and also stop spewing vitriolic hate towards bisexuals. Times like this make me wish this site had a way to report users.

I'm glad someone brought it up. I mean an actual bigot, here on a site almost solely dedicated to queer stories... It boggles the fucking mind.
Maybe ask the Admins if a report system can be done... Admins? That possible?

Yeah let's fight biphobia by straight up censoring or banning people who just find stories about bisexual girls disgusting, I'm sure it's going to work.
Banning someone simply for expressing an opinion is utterly ridiculous, people have the right to like or dislike something and to express that, some people on this site seem to have a big problem with freedom of speech.

Kase-san should know how Yamada is and can't say no easily because she's a shy girl.

She should have a little more faith in Yamada after all this time.

No, she shouldn't, as you said yourself:

Kase-san should know how Yamada is and can't say no easily because she's a shy girl. >

Yamada clearly had no idea what she was doing from the beginning and the speed at which she lost control of the situation just show that Kase has no reason to trust her when it comes to dealing with men and strangers in general, as someone else already said, you don't throw someone who can't swim into the ocean.

Kase reaction was right and completely justified in this situation, Yamada wanted to show her that she was a big girl and almost got burned, in the best case scenario she would have had a very unpleasant time, and in real life (or in a much darker manga) it would have been much worse than simply unpleasant.

If Yamada wants to learn to become more independent there are much safer way to do it, but it wasn't just about becoming more independent in this case, she also did it to spite Kase, to tell her "I don't need you, I can do whatever I want" and it was an absolute failure.

On an unrelated note, what's up with this whole mixer culture in Japan? Does this exist in other country as well? There is no such thing in my country, and quite frankly, it seems completely stupid to me.

Is there a way to completely block a manga so that it doesn't show on the front page for me? I don't want to be reminded that this shit exist every time a new chapter comes out.

Then tell me why does Mel still have a collar on her neck ? That just make her seem like a domostic animal.

For one thing "domestic animal" is different from "slave". Also, neither slaves nor domestic animals have any rights whatsoever, and in general the government has no say in how masters treat their animals or slaves (except with some very basic laws against unnecessary cruelty, but historically those are rarely enforced, and easy for masters to avoid). Neither slaves nor domestic animals are allowed to choose or reject their own masters, which is a right given to beastkin.

I'm not saying they're free, or that they have equal rights. Obviously they are in a subordinate position, and their rights are very limited. But their situation is not the same as that of slaves, or that of domestic animals. There are some similarities, but also major differences.

There really are no real world equivalents to the position of beastkin in this world, and claiming that they're slaves, or pets, or children, or whatever, would be a gross oversimplification.

I know that when people hear the word 'slave' they automatically think about the US style of slavery or something similar, but in reality slavery can take various forms, in ancient Rome slaves had rights and various legal protections, they even had the right to file a complaint against their master, and slave owners had various obligations toward their slaves, hell highly educated slaves often had a better life than commoners, but at the end of the day they were still slaves.
In this case it seems that the beastkin are either owned by an individual or they are owned by the state if they reject their master (or no one wants them I guess), and from what we know so far they have no way to legally set themselves free (they can reject a master, but that doesn't change the fact that they are still owned by someone or something, and we don't know if they can keep on rejecting everyone forever, at some points they will probably be forced to accept a master), so according to the definition of slavery they are slaves.
Now the way they are treated is a mix between a pet (they have an ID number on their neck, like many pets in case they get lost) and a domestic slave (Mel master doesn't require her to do anything if she doesn't want to, but she could order her to do all sort of housework if she wanted to).

Stan Miller, you really need to change your credit page.

I fucking love that credit page, every time I see it at the end of a chapter I imagine Cthulhu reading yuri manga.

The mixer trope in yuri manga is really getting old and annoying, especially considering that it almost always ends the same way.

Can people please stop saying that the ending was rushed please? Inform before you say something. Citrus will continue in a new manga called Citrus + in which you will have the ending expanded and adventures of their lives after marriege. The ending was rushed on purpose to open a path for Citrus +, so stop it already

We don't know anything about Citrus Plus so far except that it will be more focused on the sides characters, it could be before or after the marriage for all we know, so unless you have an official statement from Saburouta regarding the exact content of Citrus Plus you don't know what it's going to be about. And Citrus ending was rushed, it is undeniable, the fact that she is going to make a spin off is not an excuse, quite the contrary, botching your work on purpose just to keep some content for a spin off is not something to be proud of.

Well, it was rushed but I expected much worse, maybe the spin-off will show us what happened before the marriage, etc.

I can't get into this series, since I discovered that Ootori Manhiro is a guy. All I can think is: This reads like the fantasy of a teenage boy.

So if the author was a woman then suddenly it would be better and more acceptable? If Comiket has taught me anything, it's that women have fantasies just as weird and fucked up as men.
I can't even imagine what the reactions here would be if Mira was revealed to be a man, makes me wonder how many yuri authors pretend to be women just to avoid this kind of comment.

Anyway, I might be the only one, but I actually enjoy this manga, the art is pretty unique (though the proportions are a bit random) and it's like reading a story set in a different universe where our moral and logic doesn't apply.

I didn't mean to say that she was voluntarily forcing herself though, more like she was heavily influenced by her social circle and the whole gyaru subculture to believe that having a cute boyfriend was a 'vital' necessity. And you can find someone extremely attractive without wanting to date/fuck the person, happened to me plenty of times.
Lastly, I don't deny that she MIGHT be bi, but stating that she IS bi without a doubt is clearly exaggerating considering the lack of actual evidence.

Do not forget, Yuzu is bi, at the very beginning of the story she was not even that, she was (or thought herself) straight, did everyone forget how much she anguished over getting into an all-girls school with no potential boyfriends around?

I'm pretty sure she only wanted a boyfriend because she was trying to be the stereotypical gyaru, she thought that having a cute boyfriend was 'cool' and would impress her friends and make them jealous, and it was expected of her to have a boyfriend by her social circle, I mean do you remember how her "friends" reacted when they saw a lesbian couple? And how Yuzu ended up crying because of the way they reacted? The whole "I want a boyfriend" thing was just peer pressure at its finest IMO. And I don't remember Yuzu mentioning that she ever had a boyfriend (well, she did say something about breaking up with her boyfriend at the beginning but right after she says that she was never honest about that, so I guess it was just a lie) or that she was ever romantically attracted to a specific man (but I don't remember every single chapter of Citrus so maybe I'm wrong). She might be bi, but the beginning of the manga isn't really a proof of that... IMO, she thought she was straight 'by default', like many other homosexuals, because she was never really attracted to someone before.

I don't know if it's bad writing or intentional, but I like the result either way, this weird and fucked up relationship is a nice change from what we usually see in yuri manga.

Sure thing.

So bullying weak people is okay and 'civilized' and it's the victim fault for being too weak according to you but retaliating is 'brutish' and 'uncivilized', at least try to be consistent, if might makes right then they got what they deserved 'it's their fault for being too weak' after all isn't it? And she didn't gouge out their eyes wtf are you talking about?

Bullying weak people will make them strong if they can learn from it. If instead of feeling sorry for themselves all the time and blaming others they take a stand and learn to fight back and in the process become a stronger person, than yes it's ok to bully weak people. I'm saying torture is brutish and uncivilized. Especially when those girls did nothing wrong. They're teenagers! The victim won't be scared by pranks, but those girls will now have physical and emotional scars. And I did say it was ok to rough the attacker up, "leave bruises" but what she did was straight up psychotic and crossed a line. And in the last panel you can see a girl with an eye patch. Put two and two together when she talked about stabbing them. Your eyes are not coming back from being stabbed

Except most people who have been bullied don't become stronger, this isn't a fucking shonen, they either stay the same, become even weaker or they become bitter and fucked up. And they did nothing wrong really ?! If no one put the bullies to their place and stop them then they become worse, and things slowly escalate, you seem to think that bullying is just a bunch of harmless pranks, bullying can get extremely violent and fucked up real quick, so do we wait until things go to far and the victim has a mental breakdown or kill herself? Oh but I forgot it's her fault for being too weak amiright? This is not how you make people stronger, quite the opposite, but the fact that you said that there is no bullying in the adult world just show your ignorance, it takes a different form but it still exist. And if she had gouge out their eyes there would be blood, a lot of blood on panel 18 close to their heads, there is nothing, and no police investigation after someone got their eyes gouge out? Yeah sure. There is no real evidence.

PS: I only saw Nezchan post after writing this so delete this if you want.

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Two wrongs don't make a right you sociopath. Maybe a beating is justified, a few bruises. But gouging out eyes and sticking tacks in their mouth all the while recording is third world torture. Uncivilized and brutish. Being bullied sucks, but it's also a good experience to learn how to stand up for yourself. In a civilized manner mind you.

Oh fuck right the hell off, "bullying is a good experience" REALLY?! Systemized bullying is soul crushing and leaves scars that will last your whole life, TRUST ME. Standing up for yourself in a "civilized manner" just doesn't work in these kinds of things, no matter what some shitty after-school special tells you. You remind of the out-of-touch adults that were completely useless when I was bullied as a child. It's a wonderful feeling when you live in constant fear and anxiety at school and only have a bunch of pithy, useless advice from people you think are supposed to give a shit. And third world torture? Everything she did to them, they did to her friend; what does that tell you about a society that turns a blind eye to that kind of crap? It shouldn't surprise anyone that when society fails someone so utterly they stop caring about it's rules.

Yes really. I'm sorry you were too pathetic to stand up for yourself or at the least make some friends to help you out when things get rough, but that doesn't mean everyone else is a pathetic loser who can't learn from the experience. "systemized bullying"? Lol wtf is that. You hardly see bullying in the adult world, it's a teenage phase because emotions are high. All emotions, and by being a pathetic turd who doesn't try to stop it you become an easy target for people with high emotions. "everything she did to them they did to her" really now? Cause I don't see her missing an eye, I don't see those girls blackmailing her with photos or her with sores in her mouth. All we say was light bullying and pranks. And society didn't fail you, you failed yourself. Stop looking for hand outs and stand up you pussy!

So bullying weak people is okay and 'civilized' and it's the victim fault for being too weak according to you but retaliating is 'brutish' and 'uncivilized', at least try to be consistent, if might makes right then they got what they deserved 'it's their fault for being too weak' after all isn't it? And she didn't gouge out their eyes wtf are you talking about?

I think I don't like this middle schooler, she seems like one of those anoying teenagers who likes to tease adults... As a 29's teacher, I would just find a way to get her out of my way

Her behavior is a cry for help and instead of trying to understand what's going on you would just get rid of her ? You sound like a great teacher smh.

Well, I've just read the raw of chapter 12 and the cousin is definitely abusing her, I'm not 100% sure it's sexual abuse since my Japanese isn't exactly great but it seems extremely likely.