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Eerwqae
joined Nov 5, 2017

That's why people calling Aya the real MC and it's kinda true, not officialy but still... so not a suprise. It's her story and most importantly it's not just a simple love manga but a lot of complicated things are goin on besides that. Would be hard to care about the love triangle when it's Erika -> Koto <-> Aya.

Eerwqae
joined Nov 5, 2017

The only thing I'd reproach to Erika is that she doesn't seem to take Aya seriously, and even treats her like a stranger, like a troublesome child that's in the way of her relationship with Koto. She doesn't hinder her, but it's like she can't wait to be rid of her.

She lacks empathy. She notices Aya hides her pain behind a smile, but she doesn't really care and immediately thinks about how to exploit the opportunity. She comes off as calculative and cold, even though she's racked with guilt. She admits to herself that the breakup made her happy.

It's like the fact that Aya is a 14 year old without any family, who's struggling to survive after losing everything is totally abstract to her. It's like she never considered Aya as a friend, even in middle school. Only as an obstacle she can finally push aside and forget.

I can understand why people would dislike Erika. Ultimately, she's selfish and egocentric.

Not to say Koto isn't guilty of the same thing. They both come across as insincere. Only Aya has always been genuine with both of them, never trying to burden them with her problems.

Maybe it's the overall theme of the manga: becoming an adult means becoming more fake and selfish.

Nah, It's not like that.. Healthy, mentally grown up adult people are not like Erika, it's just her "rotten/immature" personality but she's like on an okay level because some people irl are much more worse. At least, she's not acting on it that much.

Eerwqae
joined Nov 5, 2017

The fact that Erika later made a Tanabata wish that Aya would return and then Aya returned suggests that Erika does have some connection to the “spirited away” phenomenon, but exactly what that relation is and how much Erika is aware of or in control of it is a completely open question.

Honestly it would be pretty bad writing at this point to reveal that Erika knew her wish would make Aya return, since we got that scene from her perspective, with plenty of internal monologue. She's written pretty unambiguously as shocked and confused with Aya's sudden appearance.

My guess is that they were never aware the fact that tanzaku is a valid stuff but the reappearance/disappearance was always related to the Tanabata thing, so... (Also, the president's Tanabata story is kind of similar to Aya/Koto's but with happy ending.)

last edited at Nov 7, 2024 4:05PM

Eerwqae
joined Nov 5, 2017

I give up. This is a manga not a novel. Sometimes we can simply tell character's emotion from the picture. The text is not the only and usual way to show it. But l guess it's pointless since you can't even sense Koto's unhappiness in chapter 7 when it's like a piece of cake to me. And l don't have the obligation to teach you.

Lol. Like any other person familiar with the criticism of comics/manga/manhua/bandes dessinées/fumetti, etc., by “text” I mean the combination of the words and the pictures that are actually on the page.

In other words, what the manga actually shows rather speculation or projection about what did or will happen.

The only interesing thing is that who induced the disappear of Aya because that was/became the main problem for everyone or it was just simply Aya who wanted to disappear, we don't know yet. The second option is that her environment generated it, like Erika or Aya's "poor status/condition, family issues" or both... I don't think Aya really wanted to disappear because at that time she just fallen in love with Koto and wanted to go to the Tanabata festival with her, the only risky thing that happened around that time is that Erika saw them kissing, so I think that's says a lot or i'm just imagining things.

Her reappearance is related to Erika but I strongly think that her disappear is also somehow related to her. My guess is: they talked (Erika, Aya) with each other after the "kissing scene" (deja vu moment confirms it) and she became jealous, so she wrote a paper at the Tanabata but I don't think she really wanted anything bad thappen to Aya. Maybe it's not that simple but... lol

last edited at Nov 7, 2024 1:33PM

Eerwqae
joined Nov 5, 2017

So, the theory about the "spiriting away" thing is that when someone feels like there is no reason to stay, like around the people they like and they feel like that they're always just a nuisance to them, that causes the "spriting away" thing? I'm sure it's pretty much related to Tanabata but we don't really know anything about that topic yet.

So far the story has played it very close to the vest regarding its supernatural aspect, and at this point we really don’t know anything at all about the “spiriting away”—how it happens or why it happens.

In that case, it's started when Aya's family fallen apart (her mother left her alone) plus when Erika told Aya that she's just a bothersome person after she became jealous of them? Imo, Erika is not the only one whom induced her disappearance but she sure played a big part in that.. Then Aya is the no.1 victim here.

It’s reasonable to speculate that Erika expressed her jealousy to Aya at the festival, but we have no solid evidence about that. Erika’s present-day guilt and self-loathing could simply be about wishing for something bad to happen to her friends’ relationship that then actually happened. (And the story has made it crystal-clear that Aya and Erika actually were friends (as well as rivals) in middle school.)

The fact that Erika later made a Tanabata wish that Aya would return and then Aya returned suggests that Erika does have some connection to the “spirited away” phenomenon, but exactly what that relation is and how much Erika is aware of or in control of it is a completely open question.

As far as Aya being a “victim,” while her “missing years” can hardly be seen as a good thing, she definitely viewed not having to deal with her aging grandfather’s dementia as a major positive aspect of her “hiatus.”

Sorry but Aya's déja vu moment (forgotten talking) was kinda sus and also Erika's reaction to it but we'll see.

Eerwqae
joined Nov 5, 2017

How did Yuu even came up here.. Love triangles are always complicated and dramatic.

So, the theory about the "spiriting away" thing is that when someone feels like there is no reason to stay, like around the people they like and they feel like that they're always just a nuisance to them, that causes the "spriting away" thing? I'm sure it's pretty much related to Tanabata but we don't really know anything about that topic yet. In that case, it's started when Aya's family has fallen apart (her mother left her alone) plus when Erika told Aya that she's just a bothersome person after she became jealous of them? Imo, Erika is not the only one whom induced her disappearance but she sure played a big part in that.. Then Aya is the no.1 victim here.

last edited at Nov 7, 2024 8:58AM

Eerwqae
joined Nov 5, 2017

Some of you guys are blaming Koto for being immature and this and that even after years... Poor girl "lost" her first and only love at 14 (emotionally immature), it's not suprising that she couldn't cope with the fact that Aya dissapeared. She sadly got stuck in that state of mind as you said it before but it's shows how much she loved her and it also wasn't a typical farewell, like breaking up or smth and the emotions between them at that time was really intense, so... Big big trauma she has, kinda understandable, imo. Koto didn't do anything remarkable in her life.. I think she just wanted to survive those seven years after Aya went missing. Also, she always wanted to replace or find Aya but it never worked out. These are the facts.. so, yeah, she needs a good therapy for sure. I feel like, soon there'll be a lot of drama !!!

last edited at Nov 5, 2024 5:22PM

Eerwqae
joined Nov 5, 2017

Next ch when?

Eerwqae
joined Nov 5, 2017

It's gonna be even messier from now on. This whole story is about detachment; in other words, about letting go. Are the choices for the good, though? We don't know, and they probably won't.

For people saying the characters are bland: no, they are not. Of course there is a little of tropes here and there, but in my opinion, they're being conducted in a very mature way, and very, very slowly. This kind of storytelling isn't that uncommon, but isn't very liked by a lot of readers, for we are used to the standard "plot > conflict > climax > ending" structure.

And the "happy ending" won't be "happy." I'm calling it. I really like stories like this one, messy and bittersweet.

I think so too. The best happy ending for me would be something like... everyone become independent, finally finding theirselfs, and won't stay in their personal shit state. But i think there is also a chance for SeixAya.

last edited at Oct 21, 2020 2:11PM

Eerwqae
joined Nov 5, 2017

Nah, "Gross" happened because Uno doesn't love herself. Firstly, she needs to accept and love herself, then everything will be fine with her lovelife.

Eerwqae
joined Nov 5, 2017

Stories about otherwise smart people who are clueless that they’re in love with each other are becoming my newest addiction.

Warikitta Kankei desukara. Lmao!

Eerwqae
joined Nov 5, 2017

Y'all need to acknowledge the fact that poly is unusual, at least for me and maybe for arch99 too. lol I asked it because i can't imagine how polyamorous relationships work.

Eerwqae
joined Nov 5, 2017

Oh... a poly yuri manga, interesting. So what is the thing that the girls are aiming for? They have to kiss everyone, or...?

Eerwqae
joined Nov 5, 2017

This manga is so heartwarming... I guess the new era of yuri already came. (There are less mangas that says; "We are both girls, we can't be together"...) Also, Hinako is very similar to me, it's scary... Maybe i could learn from this manga. lol
I don't think that Hinako is gay, she is most likely bi. She just needs someone who can make her truly happy, who truly loves her, not just her looks, and we already know that person is Satou.

last edited at Feb 7, 2020 8:26AM

Eerwqae
joined Nov 5, 2017

I'm pretty sure AyaxSensei is the end game. Aya is already in love with Sensei, she just doesn't know it yet or maybe. Aya wants true emotions from Sensei, but she isn't giving that kind of thing to her, which is sad. Sensei is the problematic one. If she could learn how to love someone again, it would be a happy ending. She has to get over all her traumatized emotions, and leave it in the past. We can say that she was just a victim. (?) Her lovelife was a failure in her whole life. She is sexually frustrated, because she's surrounded by boy crazy hs girls, and one time when she was in love, she was rejected by her best friend. So it's not that she was this psycho in her whole life. Childhood friend is just a jealous girly, who cant have Aya, that's why she acting crazy.
P.s: Its an interesting story, so don't be Purity police, thanks.

last edited at Dec 31, 2019 6:55AM