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Creepy
joined Jul 6, 2015

Fan art by hsketc:


Note that this is a smaller resized version. The original image can be found below.

Original full-size image:
http://postimg.org/image/w40jycvrh/full/

Have some of my seolrae trash while I wait in vain for August 17. (T_T)

Source:
http://hsketc.tumblr.com/post/126553922808/have-some-of-my-seolrae-trash-while-i-wait-in-vain
http://41.media.tumblr.com/615990141a4eb842570a321133b2db9e/tumblr_nt00lh63yK1t2vskpo1_1280.jpg

HAHAHAHAHA! This is so dirty but so witty! I loveit! And Seol-a's smile is so accurate xD

Creepy
joined Jul 6, 2015

Also No-rae's knee is already touching Seol-a's crotch, mygod.

Creepy
joined Jul 6, 2015

JESUS CHRIST AND NORAE'S HAND IS SO CLOSE TO SEOLA'S SKIRT. EASY ACCESSIBILITY ><

We don't see her other hand... just saying...

WHAT SKIRT? I THOUGHT SHE WAS JUST WEARING AN OVERSIZED SHIRT + UNDIES AND THAT RED THING WAS A TOWEL.

(k, why am i shouting lol xD)

Creepy
joined Jul 6, 2015

^omg u so fast at fanart-hunting! Lol

EEEEEEE! So happy with the Ssamba's art release, even if it's a tease! What a good thing to wake up to lol. And what are they doing, getting drunk in Seol-a's apartment by themselves? XD

Creepy
joined Jul 6, 2015

^ooh..you're right! I dunno how I missed that. Might have zoned out scrolling past the first ones XD

Creepy
joined Jul 6, 2015

^Everyone in the competition is loli/moe except for Bae Seol-a.

Creepy
joined Jul 6, 2015

Thanks for posting, anonymous! : ) You know I cannot deal with organized formatting that well, LOL!

Blackkity -- Glad you like it. I just wanted them to be truly, comfortably happy with each other :')

Creepy
joined Jul 6, 2015

Alextasha:

About aaaakrn art. I like poses, I like colors, I like the light and sparks/blings but... these eyes and nails kinda scares me ;_;

I also thought the same! Haha! But it's not an art critique forum so... goes back to own drawing desk

Eye know; you nailed it.

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Well that woke me up XD

last edited at Jul 23, 2015 3:02AM

Creepy
joined Jul 6, 2015

anonymous and Alextasha

Thank you. I...did not expect such soothing responses. I appreciate it very much. :)

Creepy
joined Jul 6, 2015

Alextasha:

andiedraws:

I am posting directly here and not on my Tumblr because I just like to keep my Tumblr safe for work (and safe from the judgment of people I know irl who follow my blog, haha) :))

Ya need to create andiedrawsnsfw, lawl.

Naaaaaaaaaaah it's not NSFW, not even NSFW-ish. Honestly :D For me is totally SFW, you really should post in on your main blog.

OK, correction, ya need to create:

andiedraws-nsfw-ish
andiedraws-nsfw-er
andiedraws-ridiculously-nsfw
andiedraws-marginally-nsfw
andiedraws-holy-crap-is-this-nsfw
andiedraws-nsfw-but-depends-where-you-work
andiedraws-i-have-no-clue
andiedraws-for-the-lulz
So on.

 
Alextasha:

But of course if you feel uncomfortable with this idea - create as anon suggested, subtubmlr for nsfw things :) it's a waste to upload them on photobucket :)

I wouldn't say it's "a waste", but I think I get what you mean, as I sort of share the same opinion.

 
I'll just paste some stuff I said before:

Keep in mind that this is only my opinion or personal recommendation, so take it for whatever it's worth...

[...] this is just a personal recommendation, but I really think you should have it uploaded somewhere else also, not only here.

Don't get me wrong, of course I am glad that you're posting it here. (And it would appear I'm not the only one.) It's a real treat for us. But the visibility and reach of your work is extremely limited if you solely post it on one random page of a random thread thread on a random forum.

So I'd really recommend posting it in a place where people usually post fan art. Such as your DeviantArt account, Pixiv.net, a Tumblr blog, or anywhere else. Then, you can still repost it here as well as other places.

This way, your work can reach a wider audience, and more people, more FF fans would be able to enjoy it.

Just my opinion.

(Originally posted here.)

[...] having your work only here would really not do it enough justice. Also, site and forum data can be lost. (Has happened before to this very forum, from what I understand.) So if you only posted it here and only here, then a week/month/whatever later, the forum or site crashes with all posts lost, your work would essentially "disappear forever" off the face of the Web. Which would be unfortunate as hell.

So yeah, I'd give this advice to anyone else creating fan art [...], as I wouldn't want anyone's efforts to go to waste.

(Originally posted here.)

(Originally posted here.)

 
I'll also post a good counterpoint or "other side of the argument" from Nezchan:

[...] it does remain your choice and you likely have your own reasons that you've thought about so don't let yourself feel pressured to do something you're not comfortable with. Even if you're the only one who ever sees your art, I feel that still "does justice" to the work, and if you share it somewhere that's still a Good Thing.

Do what you're comfortable with, in other words.

Me:

But yeah, totally what Nezchan said. Again, that was merely my personal friendly recommendation. Of course, you're totally free to do whatever you want. No pressure there.

Thank you for the encouraging and supportive words. And even taking the time to outline the different sides of the argument. Haha. Plus, your nsfw username suggestions are hilarious :)) Yknow I actually thought of it at some point, but I realize I wouldn't be able to update such a blog much. I'm not someone with a lot of inhibited urges to make NSFW art, ok. Haha!

And true, it's not really NSFW by Dynasty yuri standards. But people make a big deal of and gossip about anything sex/sexuality-related where I'm from. I'm from a country with a largely (pretentiously) religious population, where the culture is very communal, and everyone is lurking around social media and few people know how to mind their own business. I am of an open mind and don't judge other people who veer towards what's considered "deviant" behavior by the conservatives here. But goddamn, it's hard to explain when you actually live around these people, you won't be shunned or shamed, but it you will have a lot of passive social baggage and opinions about you.

Actually my real issue is that I feel like posting something explicitly yuri is effectively coming out of the closet. And I know it's weird to be avoiding it because most of the other fan art I have on Tumblr are yuri!

But notice, the yuri fan art I have on Tumblr are done in a way that can be interpreted as friendship or only at the level of subtext. If you have a hetero lens, it'll fly past you and you'll just see a pretty picture of two girls. If you have yuri goggles, then it's much more obvious.

Also, I never make yuri or gl the main theme of my art blog. It's a lot of general artwork, that happens to have some occasional yuri. Hell, even when I make yuri fan art, it has to come with this long-ass character analysis and process explanation (I use this evasive behavior a lot --intellectualizing a guilty pleasure, when the truth is I just want to draw yuri because I feel something from it)

My point is that I am clearly playing it safe and I know it lol.*sigh*

I do feel a little restricted by this (my own social expectations), but I understand the consequences of it and I know I need to deal with it eventually. Just not now. I'm so not ready. T_T

Re. Fan art and Social Media Reach

I do know that the more social media platforms you are consistently and strategically on, the larger audience and traction you have. But the main reason I obsess about getting good at art is precisely so I can better get stories and emotions across with visual clarity. Popularity is just secondary and is mostly a consequence of being good at one's craft (at least in my case, that's what I prefer; not hating on people who do more self-promoting hehe) But good art has the ability to make people feel a lot of feelings and this is what I want to achieve. So yes, the only big drawback for me is the lost opportunity of sharing. And so again, this "coming out with the yuri" thing is something I need to come to terms with in the future in order to maximize my audience reach. Because I also actually have a personal story project with a yuri pairing and I know that's gonna have to come out one day. :|

I also work/draw for production, so I'm not attached to my drawings or ever feel like they're wasted. I'm used to doing a lot of sketches and doodles that either get rejected or approved, then I move on :)) Also, strangely, since I'm really primarily obsessed with getting better at my craft, every fan art I do needs to have a learning objective whether use of technique or workflow. It's never just about gonna draw some yuri when the mood takes me, (though that's the driving force)

I didn't mean to make this a long-ass post about me but since you guys were sincerely encouraging and outlining a lot of points about the fan art sharing, I thought it only fair to explain that. It was also nice to get that out. Haha

Photobucket
I get what you mean by photobucket hosting problems and forum crashing though, haha! I've been to one of those research trips on a forum where none of the images showed up anymore XD

last edited at Jul 15, 2015 1:36AM

Creepy
joined Jul 6, 2015

^ YOoooo! Thank you! :D

Seol-a: I'll show you what I like...
No-rae: paralysis + nosebleed

XD

Creepy
joined Jul 6, 2015

NSFW-ish sketch. I am posting directly here and not on my Tumblr because I just like to keep my Tumblr safe for work (and safe from the judgment of people I know irl who follow my blog, haha) :))

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn178/andiedraws/FF_Sketch_06_zps2xplmjut.jpg

I am rather embarrassed that I don't know how to display preview images here though! I mean I Googled how to do it, but all the tips are for forums with custom html editors. Can't get an image to appear as a preview/thumbnail on here. Oh well.

Anyway, I will go back to doing proper fan art soon. I have one in the works, which was supposed to go out this week but I wasn't able to finish cos I was busy.

Creepy
joined Jul 6, 2015

another sketch of no-rae and seol-a
i miss them :(

That could totally happen once they start officially going out hehe XD

Creepy
joined Jul 6, 2015

^ Thanks for posting it for me :)

Creepy
joined Jul 6, 2015

Got a general discussion question: At which point did you become hooked on this story?

For me it was probably the lollipop moment. I was like, "Yup. The gayness is real." And then I just had to read more in hopes of seeing those feelings (from both Seol-Ah and No-Rae) come fully to the surface. Btw, does anyone know NoRae's first gay moment?

All the good tension that pushes character development rather than create fanservice-y plot intrigues, I guess? And it helps a lot that ssamba also executes with such visual clarity. It's those little things like the look on Seol-a's face when No-rae calls or when No-rae showed up when she was drinking with Kyung-woo. You never see that look on Seol-a's face anywhere else and that tells us something. I really felt her joy there in that panel, haha. And can we talk about how simple yet powerful Seol-a's design is? A lot of times we're just shown her back, but we know it's her. And and I dunno if it's just me but I find that Seol-a's silhouette/back creates such a strong presence on a panel. Really reinforces that THAT'S the queen bee without having to resort to flashy, dynamic camera angles. And there's so much believability in the characters. Again, little details that add dimension to a character-- how No-rae sleeps with the blanket all the way to her head, doesn't know where stuff is kept in her own house, easily falling asleep anywhere, having this silly pear character on her fridge, etc.

A lot of other manga can have really beautiful-looking art that looks like a lot of time was spent on it, but character behavior/progression can get over-the-top and unbelievable (e.g. Citrus, though I love reading it as a guilty pleasure hahaha). FF has super simple art but I really like it in terms of art-direction and visual communication. It feels more real and earnest that I think it could appeal to readers who aren't even normally readers of yuri.

So yeah, I'm hooked because I think it's a really well-crafted comic series :)

Creepy
joined Jul 6, 2015

anonymous:

You can almost picture it:

Seol-a: No-rae?
No-rae: Yeah?
Seol-a: Question... why are you wearing a T-shirt with a giant bug on it?
No-rae: It's not a bug. It's Space Invaders.
Seol-a: ... *blink*
No-rae: 1978? One of the biggest arcade games of all time?
Seol-a: ... *blink*
No-rae: Sigh... never mind. ;;
Seol-a: Wanna go get something yummy to eat?
No-rae: ... Sure!!

That reminds me of a good friend who's so like Seol-a -- really popular, doesn't pick up on any pop culture reference, loves the beach, has rather generic interests, but was really good at marketing/business administration cases back in uni. A lot of fake people liked to hitch on her popularity. I hated it -_- But she always confided in me and thought my quirkiness was interesting/cute. She's also really touchy-touchy like Seol-a! Ugh. Anyway, we've had a lot of short exchanges similar to your Space Invaders script above if we weren't talking about fashion or health/fitness (about the only thing we truly had in common). Goddamn, I guess I was in love with her for a time and I think that's why FF feels so real to me. </3 Hahaha. K, oversharing oops.

......

So you're basically saying...
You used to know Baek Seol-a.
And you're Kim No-rae.

Oh, OK, that's all.

 
...... *GASP*

So were those really fan art... or were they actually self-portraits?!

*suspicious glances*

HAHAHA. While I'm definitely more on the No-rae side of the personality spectrum, I wasn't a wallflower who ran away from my problems lol. Gahd, I hated it so much when No-rae said harsh words she didn't mean just to push Seol-a away >:( And when she'd imagine Seol-a was more suited for Ji-hwan or some self-assured man with a warm embrace, I was like "WTF No-rae! If I were you, I'd step up and make myself worthy of her!" Haha! It's a good thing Seol-a is quite the aggressive pursuer, following her all the way to her hometown. My college friend wasn't emotional like that lol. We still keep in touch but my feelings have long subsided to a platonic one, thank goodness. Because I don't think she'd ever go out of her way for me as I would have for her (one time, I went out into a stormy night on rickety third-world public transportation just to give her my accounting textbook/notes that she needed, and then I felt like an idiot afterwards lol) ...even though to this day, she still has my old college doodles of her in her room :))

Creepy
joined Jul 6, 2015

Link to gallery: http://postimg.org/gallery/1swmqqqec/

@Alextasha -- Thank you for this awesome share! Only saw these comic parodies this morning and they really woke me up lol. Possessive Seol-a is so cute XD My day is made lol

Creepy
joined Jul 6, 2015

You can almost picture it:

Seol-a: No-rae?
No-rae: Yeah?
Seol-a: Question... why are you wearing a T-shirt with a giant bug on it?
No-rae: It's not a bug. It's Space Invaders.
Seol-a: ... *blink*
No-rae: 1978? One of the biggest arcade games of all time?
Seol-a: ... *blink*
No-rae: Sigh... never mind. ;;
Seol-a: Wanna go get something yummy to eat?
No-rae: ... Sure!!

That reminds me of a good friend who's so like Seol-a -- really popular, doesn't pick up on any pop culture reference, loves the beach, has rather generic interests, but was really good at marketing/business administration cases back in uni. A lot of fake people liked to hitch on her popularity. I hated it -_- But she always confided in me and thought my quirkiness was interesting/cute. She's also really touchy-touchy like Seol-a! Ugh. Anyway, we've had a lot of short exchanges similar to your Space Invaders script above if we weren't talking about fashion or health/fitness (about the only thing we truly had in common). Goddamn, I guess I was in love with her for a time and I think that's why FF feels so real to me. </3 Hahaha. K, oversharing oops.

andiedraws:

Ok, that's all. I'll go back to drawing now :3

Yes! Keep on drawing! I love it when Andie draws...

 
Yeah... that was terrible, I apologize. 3:

HAHAHAHA yer funny :))

~~Aww damn, I want a FF movie or anime after watching that edit/fanvideo

Creepy
joined Jul 6, 2015

Hi, everyone! :D One of you messaged me on Tumblr and pointed me here. Haha! This thread is hilarious! I'm Andie, btw. I just wanted to say thank you to all the people bringing us the English translations :) I'm just so happy that this series exists and that you guys made this amazing series accessible :D

Oh, and thanks also for sharing my work on here. (I'm glad somebody noticed the Space Invaders shirt ahaha. I just figured No-Rae is the more dorky character and would be the type to have a few geek culture reference shirts lol)

Ok, that's all. I'll go back to drawing now :3