Goggled Anon posted:

Did you read Hourou Musuko?

Pretty sure that series ended with the trans female protagonist telling her girlfriend that she wants to be a girl and her girlfriend responds with "I guess that makes me a lesbian"

Pretty sure that series ended with the "transboy" Yoshino, who went as far a buying a binder and felt their identity was a boy for most of the series, finally deciding that being a girl and being called cute wasn't all that bad and it made things easier in life, so just abandoned that whole gender identity thing and wasn't feeling worse for it. Just felt a bit guilty to have abandoned her friend on the trans road. It was just a phase.

I sure hope this one doesn't go that route for the MC where they finally find love and accept the gender they were assigned at birth with.

Wasn't the ending actually pretty ambigious In that we can't really say whether or not Yoshino did detrans because they came to the conclusion of being cis, if they are ambigious or if it is a temporary detransition, which actually up the majority of detransitioning in real life contrary to what many bad faith actors try to suggest, because Yoshinio was at the moment just not in the headspace to be openly trans and transitioning and therefore opted to live as a girl for the time being. As far as I know, the Mangaka herself stated that it is up to the reader whether Yoshino is trans, so I guess Yoshino is more of a case where readers can project how they want to read the ending of Yoshinos story, whether or not they are an example of who experimented with their gender identity during youth until coming to the conclusion of being cis, if they might be non-binary or genderfluid or if they are temporarily detransitioning because they're in a stage of their life in which performing as female might be overall easier than the tribulations of openly being out

This is delightfully Ikuharaesque. Real big shame about the portrayal of the trans lady.

It's kind of weird too considering there's a more positive portrayal of a trans girl in one of Dowman Sayman's other manga, Nickelodeon.

Could be a deliberate stylistic choice to present her ans gender non-conforming or fluid to make her stand out a bit more in the case, especially since her looks are never really used as the pun of a joke.

And yet again, the transwoman is "perfect". If she didn't say she was a guy before, none would have guessed.

IMO, this way of portraying transwomen by mangaka is as bad as portraying them as ridiculous muscled unshaved drag-queens haunting bars in Roppongi. It's a lie.

I mean, can we be real here? Is there even a way to portray a transwoman as not passing without drawing her intentionally as overly masculine and unshaved in Manga Style? Like, even if she is drawn with average masculine proportions in this kind of artstyle, she would still look have a mature feminine beauty, considering that your average mangastyle man has a highly androgynous look and could be easily genderswapped by just adding longer hair. Hell, even in Kanojo ni Naritai Kimi to Boku Akira, who is deliberately drawn as not being able to pass easily, could just as well have been a tall tomboyish ciswoman when it comes to manga art-conventions.

Awwwww.
That's cute. I like Trans-Yuri.
Though I headcanon that she later on goes the transitioning full way. Makes it happier and more fluffy for me.

Continued to Last Episode? Where can I read this? Hmmm..

So uh... The continuation... Its old, not translated, but I saw it...

Lots of men, public humiliation, rape, semen spraying all over both girls girls, and mindbreak. It seems like this chapter was just a sweet appetizer to completely destroy the 2 characters in the continuation, to make the rape much more "delicious"... I don't even wanna keep this on my lists anymore.

I remember reading this and wanting to find a sequel of some kind, then being really grateful for your warning. Thank you.

Found it and even if I don't translated, kinda looks like Blindfold girl ended up in a church and deaf girl seems to have got pregnant and died with the baby in her arms somewhere on the streets. A priest brings her a little girl that looks like her.

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The ending doesn't really answers, or even attempts to answer, the questions implied about having a near-human robot as a lover.

It just ends with a timeskip and an admission by Chika that she loves Hiro after all and that it's normal.

What about when she grows much older? As Hiro is a very expensive machine, she's not going to see her often. And the researchers are under no obligation to keep her running. How does that affect their relationship? That to other peope, Hiro is just "a thing". One thing is for sure is that they can't get "physical". So Chika is going to go full abstinence? Or have a human lover on the side? Maybe to have kids?

I'm just frustrated because there's too many loose ends. If you bother to make a plot about a love story between a robot and a human, then you better see it through, until death do them part.

Considering the Sex, I guess this would be a very, very awkward talk to the creators. But if they can creat AI advanced enough to recreat love, I guess an artifical vagina wouldn't be very hard? Awkward, but probably not very hard. I mean, I would love all this scene. Imagine the awkwardness when they want to go intimate and Hiro asks for updates that makes er able to have sex. I mean, I don't even think they would have to creat something new, realisticly a sexbot would be the second or third use of advanced robot-technology commercialized.

Yeah, not only does he seem to be a hick, but for a president he has really weird priorities.

"Hey, let's create an autonomous A.I. with feelings... wait, not homosexual feelings! Scrap the whole thing!"

That one is a little bit old but to toss in a discussion: Wouldn't a robot with the abillity to emulate romantic emotions be in every case more biromantic asexual as long as you don't program her to desire sexual intercourse or only activate this kind of emotions on people with certain characteristics like being male or female?

Well they're already living together so...

And they have the same last name. So its like they are married _

I'm looking forward for this. Rare to see my most corrupted Yuri fetishes be fulfilled.

So, we learned that calling Reiko a man is not a good idea.

So, OK, uh . . . In this Eve-and-Eve paradise, they're still referring to God as "he". So then, presumably God is one of those voyeur dudes (uh, like me I suppose) who wants to see two girls getting it on.

Following that logic, the god(dess) of Adam and Adam is a fujoshi.

Or god came to the conclusion that through inherint flaws in ther core programming, men and women simply don't get along, which is why he recreated Eden with same-gender couples, to see if this works out better.

It's a pity the artist isn't a native English speaker, because they missed a perfect Adam and Steve joke with that stinger to the first story.

Come to think of it, wouldn't it really be more Adam and... whatever the masculine version of Eve is? And Adamina (I knew that one at least) and Eve for the females, of course.

It would be Madam and Eve and Adam and Steve

I kinda feel bad for both, the Wife and the Husband. I think both of them would be happier if they would peacefully divorce.

Dr. Wei can still refuse the trip to abroad (especially not with her ex girlfriend) it's not like she needed it since she's already an ophtha consultant, I presumed. I think it's only needed if you want to have a higher position in a hospital, like a decoration in your resume. It's nice to know that she still continues her relationship with Ding Yi, but the problem is she's still a minor, and if the authority/society founds out about it then it will really put a dent on her career as a doctor. I don't know what's the age of consent in China, so I searched for it https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/china , assuming since the author is from Beijing. I don't know if that is a reliable website so feel free to put some insight.

It's still something one wouldn't throw easily for a relationship that isn't going on for that long. Especially if it means the possibility of coming together again with the girl of your dreams. Not saying that this would be the right decission, more than as a lover Wei has in my eyes in this moment a responsibility as an adult to stay with this girls whose only attachment figure she is.

And yeah, the age of consent sees to be 14 in china. I'm surprised that many of you have a hard time believing this, but I guess I'm maybe just not surprised by that because in my country age of consent is 14 as well and in many parts of europe its 14 or 15, with cases where it is 17 already being really high.
Personally, I'm more surprised with americans, who totally overreact with stuff like this and even call guys who have sex with 17 year olds pedophiles.

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So, Mochi really has a thing for incest.
I like it.

That bear bluff, I'm crying. And the two believe it?! (laughs) Yurika is really something. Also, I actually like Tooru...he is cute. "Like falling for another man" though, it's funny, since in my eyes, Tooru is like the receiver. And he somewhat realizes that? (laughs)

So even if he and Yurika manage a relationship, in bed, Yurika will be the aggressive one...amazing, if I think about it. Though Yurika wants to get spoiled as well...well, they can switch.

I hope my comment doesn't offend anyone...I like het, yuri, and yaoi (or more like, NL, GL, and BL) all the same, so...I enjoy every spice (except some fetishes).

Or he comes out as a transsexual at the end of the arc. Would be a funny subversion.

These new chapters are already from another person, a really kind soul anon from /u/, and they said they would release the chapters in packs, being chapters 49-52 next (seems safe to assume that it'll be always 4 chapters packs) and also said to be aiming to release them in 2 months or less so it might be released in june.

already saw that this was from another translator, but I wasn't quite sure if the translation now continues or if it was only meant to finish the volume.
Really makes my date^^ I hope to see more of Kuchiba, I absolutely fell in love with this character.

Is the Translation now continued or did they only finished volume 7 and we have to wait till the official release?

M-Ra couldnt be further from the truth in my opinion.

The terms Opinion and Truth should only be used exclusive from each other. Whenever it comes to opinions, there is no truth.

Even as a sapphic trans woman who wants to get rid of my junk, to be honest I do find her take pretty offensive. I think saying a trans woman with a penis having sex with a cis woman is inherently heterosexual undermines and invalidates a lot of identities. I do not see a meaningful distinction between that and terfs calling trans women "males" and insisting that it's simply a fact of science. In fact, that some trans women align themselves with terfs is hardly anything new so I honestly shouldn't be as surprised as I am that a trans woman did decide to take a rather transphobic stance.

At first, please don't assume my political stance as I would consider myself far away from terms by virtue of being not a feminist but an egalitarian.

Second, in terms of erotic or pornographic art, no there is no way the explicit sexual depiction of a person with a person with a apparent male body with a person with a apparent female body could be considered lesbianism. The emotional part, yeah, where it is about the emotions a woman has for another woman, but when it comes to purely physical depictions? I would say even if it get tagged lesbian or yuri, there should be still a het warning, as, what is visible, is the depiction of a heterosexual intercourse. A visibly male body has sex with a visibly female body, although I don't can't really see a context where a lesbian would do something like that. And I would argue against the defamation of being transphobic, but my identity got so much overtaken by ideologues that I absolutely don't know whats transphobic and what not. Is it transphobic if I say that I consider myself not truly woman until I get the operation and refuse sexual relationships during this times, as these would make me feel uncomfortable as I'm sexually a lesbian? Is it transphobic to want simply to be a girl? Is it transphobic that I don't acknowledge all those Transtrenders from Tumblr? Is my mother who accepted me as who I am transphobic because she refers to me still with male pronouns? Am I transphobic because I am currently okay with this, as I'm grudgingly accept the current reality of my body?

And if people don't want to see a penis in their lesbian porn there's a great way to avoid that. Tags. A lot of people seem to be under the wildly mistaken impression that if porn with trans women is able to be labeled yuri they simply won't be able to avoid seeing it or they won't know if thats present without reading the manga. Honestly to claim that is simply dishonest. But like also its not like there's a lot of that to begin with? We're kind of a rarity and even futa getting put on this site is rare in the extreme.

Also if you would classify a trans woman on HRT as futanari like I don't even know what to say it's the most blatantly absurd thing I've heard in a long time.

Then explain me the actual difference between a Futanari/Hermaphrodit/Shemale and a Transwoman on HRT Pre-OP. Being a Futanari during this time sounds like a small price, at it means at least that everything but the genitalia looks natural.

Yeah, so gender is a tricky beast, and nothing I'm saying should be taken as invalidating your personal relationship with the bastard, but I also want to note that your characterization of the "inherent" trans experience matches pretty closely to 1960s-1990s discourse on transsexuality. And the rise of transgender terminology in the mid to late 1990s was primarily a response to and rejection of the medicalizing and "passing" - centric emphasis of that earlier discourse. So for a lot of trans folks, the declaration that pre-op and post-op are still important distinctions comes across as both outdated and a willful erasure of their contemporary transgender experiences.

So your pretty much argueing with the arguments of marxists, people who follow an ideology that had its opportunity to shine during the entire 20th century and proved to be an utter failure whenever it was implemented? Or post-modernism, a school of thought that is in itself utterly flawed as it is a simple mean to deny realities and social under the facade of intellectualism without giving giving any proper argumentation for their ideas and that fails in going its way to the consequent end of absolute nihilism, the acceptance of the fact that every morality, ideology and philosophy is in itself nothing but subjective and that an rational person should simply follow the ideas that prove to work best, which would mean the pragmatic synthesis of conservatism and progressivism?

Your argumentation seems to ignore the reality of life of most transgendered people, for whom passing and the medicalization as well as operation to get the typical characteristics of the gender they identify as is the most effective means to fight the psychological damaging symptoms of their gender dysphoria, not because of social pressure but their own quality of life, to live with a better connection between their sense of self and their body? Personally, I would say that the discourse on transsexuality in the past was by far more constructive and connected to the real problem of gender dysphoria than modern discussion, that revolve outside of the hard scientific fields more around ideas like that penises and vaginas don't exist, but are some evil fantasy constructs made up by some evil conspiracy of men.

I think ignoring the fact that Transwoman Pre-OP x Ciswoman remains physically still hetero undermines the whole problem that comes with being a Transwoman.

I respect your personal identification with the "trapped in the wrong body" experience of gender identity, but your concern that the problems of trans women are being undermined by lesbians who fail to sufficiently dis-identify with their penis comes across as being based entirely on the offensive, even if well intended, idea of a single, authentic biological female body.

There is a general female body with typical sexual charakteristics. This is the whole reason why most transgenders inherintly wish to change their physical characteristics to the traits that are common among the gender they identify as. I wouldn't even call it an idendity anymore, but really a fundemental part of the sense of self a person has. Gender Dysphoria will be always an issue because it isn't as easily solved as homosexuality, where everything is right as long as the person has the legal fundation to have romantic or sexual relationships with their own gender, it will always need some medical treatment and it will always come with a disruption between the own sense of self and the body one is born with.

And in the context of Manga, it simply makes practical the most sense to distinguish between the romantic and emotional element of a relationship Pre-OP Transwoman x Ciswoman and sexual encounters, simply because most people want to see two physically tradtional female characters when they read erotic literature. In simple terms, nobody is looking forwards to see a penis and testicles when they watch or read lesbian porn. When people watch erotic stuff, the physical element is utterly important and Pre-OP Transwoman and Ciswoman simply doesn't fits the general expectation when somebody is watching this stuff. In such cases, if the character isn't on hormones yet, it is simply hetero because this is what we physically see, in an sexual intercourse between a Pre-OP Transwoman and a Ciswoman, we see nothing but a heterosexual act. If the Transwoman is on hormones and has already breasts and a already more female appereance, it is futanari, because in this cases, in the best case there is no visual difference between a futanari and a transwoman who still has er penis. In cases where the focus is on the emotional element, it's all different. In this case, we have the premise of a non-erotic Yuri, an emotional and romantic relationship between two woman, an approach on a different experience of lesbianism. Like, I don't think anyone would deny that Ayumi and Aika from Mermaid Line is Yuri, the focus is entirely about how Ayumi and Aika, two woman, come together and about their relationship with each other.

I hope this comment isn't considered too offensive, but as a lesbian Transwoman who thinks that this whole Gender is a social construct theory is only a loophole for heterosexual cisgenders to take part in the whole LGBT-Stuff, I think it is legitimate and would make sense to draw a distinction between the emotional and the sexual/physiscal elements in a work of fiction in the question whether or not Transwoman x Ciswoman is Yuri or not, at least in the case of Pre-Operation Transgenders. When it comes to romance, it should be clear that it is Yuri. A Transwoman is psychologically a woman, and therefore a romantic relationship between Transwoman and Ciswoman are in the end nothing but romantic emotional relationships between two woman, Yuri per definition. In the sexual element, I would say it is hetero. After all, erotic depictions are all about the physical elements of a relationship and with a Transwoman pre-operation it is between a physical man and a physical female. Hetero. There is a reason why we undergo medical treatment that changes our whole natural hormonal balance and surgery that basically mutilates our fully functional natural genitals to make them as similiar to the gender that matches our psychological and emotional sense of self as possible. If I could just happily live as a lesbian woman without all of this I, and possibly most other transgenders, wouldn't do this shit to begin with, sex-change is a pain in the ass, it's certainly not funny and you need to take medication for all of your life, which sucks.

I think ignoring the fact that Transwoman Pre-OP x Ciswoman remains physically still hetero undermines the whole problem that comes with being a Transwoman.

Not too fond of the explanation of "we let her die because of her father's religion", but the story was nice. And yeah, totally look forward to the father flipping out even more when he learn his daughter is lesbian. Would make for a fun extra chapter. XD

It happens, the jeovah witnesses refuse blood transfusions even if their relative is dying and sue the hospitals that do it anyway.

Is the christian minority in japan usually that fundamentalistic? And is the interpration of freedom of religion even that radical there? For example as far as I know .in Germany, if parents refuse that their children get's important medical treatment, the doctor is able to open a legal procedure so a guardian can implemented who takes the decision for the child. In extreme Cases parents can even lose the custody over their child, although all of this is only the ultima ratio. The wellbeing of the child in this country is always more important than the religious believes of their parents, although such cases are rather rare in germany. I don't know how the law in japan is exactly, but I know that they have a really strict understanding of the seperation of state and religion, so I can't really imagine that it would be legal to let a child not undergo a lifesaving operation because of religious feelings.

But this story wasn't really good to begin with. It felt really forcefully slowed and rushed at the same time. The drama was over the top and the characters have not much personality to begin with.

I know when I was 9 or 10 the whole concept of sex was kind of vague, but generally something icky that I didn't waste much time thinking about. Boyfriends and girlfriends were more familiar concepts, but as you say, more of a status symbol than anyone you actually did anything special with.

Really? When I was 9, we learned the whole stuff rather explicitly in school and the first of us started to getting pervert about the one topless chick in GTA Vice City. Not to forget that elementary school was the time when we cursed the most, because cursing was rather cool and edgy when we were in that age. Roughly one year later, Buffy teached me what lesbianism is and why it is great.

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I want a Sequel when Kiyoka meets Adult-Chiaki again who has become a beautiful young lady then :D

Reiner already has Bertholdt... don't be greedy.. Tsk!

smirk Reiner x Bertholdt...You just have opened my eyes to a new possibility, actually. I don't see Reiner with Christa...Usually, I say, "Improbable"; however in this case is not possible in any sort of way. Not gonna happen.

Reinie and Bert?

How I can get this disease?