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I found out what I think is a little off with this.

As much as it portrays various realistic LGBT situations, all the people involved are like ideals.

The lesbian couple is gorgeous, Misora is cute as a button, whether as a boy or as a girl, Touma and Tasuku are handsome, the transgender man looks like a handsome man, Anonymous is bewitchingly ambiguous, even the older gay couple looks nice.

As if average (or even ugly) looking LGBT people don't exist. Lesbians are all lipstick lesbians. LGBT people are all nice people who'd never hurt anyone, cross-dressers are perfect looking and puberty has no effect yet. This manga painfully tries to portray LGBT (or every variation of it) as beautiful, inside and outside, people, nice, caring, struggling within an hostile society, but becoming better for it, etc, etc...

That's cool and all, but pretty unrealistic. Gays and lesbians can be nasty, unhinged, manipulative, cheating, average, butch, imperfect. Like everyone else.

This manga idealizes us a bit, so I actually can't take it really seriously because it doesn't match reality that much. And I find it counter productive at some point. It's cool to be supportive and sensitive, but come on: lesbian bitches and nasty gays exist. We are people too, not gods.

This is a problem with representation in general, don't you think?

The "token XXX-character" is mostly portrayed in some sort of extreme - either extremely bad or extremely good. Nuance eventually comes as soon as people from the own community start to write "everyday-life-stories" instead of the "we-struggle-stories" as well as with a steadily growing library in the genre/representational medium.

I personally am not and never really was a fan of the classic Class-S stories, 404: no men found, all girls high school setting that were prevelant in the oddies, and which are still a genre staple in today's vastly wider library of yuri which has fortunatelly grown since the 2010s. A world in which love between girls is written off as "pure" and "innocent" without the theat of marginalisation through society or the "threat" of heteronormativity and eventually setteling for a man always seemed odd and inplausable to me.
On the other hand the ALWAYS-fated-to-be-doomed vibes of even earlier works of the 80s and 90s also seemed unrealistic to me, because homosexual love has historically sometimes, somehow prevailed despite of its surrounding hostile environment.
Now we are in a time of blooming Lillies of all shapes and colours, which I personally more than appreciate.

There are dull works, autobiographical works, overly dreary works, overly joyful works, works obviously written by straight men and works written by queer folks - for good and for ill.

I masochistically love the gritty and dirty, ugly and despicable people and situations portrayed in Gunjo or Boku no Hentai.
I adore the quircky and hilarious antics of those fucking dorks in Bright And Cheery Amnesia or Kase-san.
I'm awestruck by the beauty and mastery of the sequencial art form in Beloved L.
I can't help but roll my eyes at the melodramatic and contrived obstacles put in place before the protagonists of Citrus.
I feel a deep connection and great appreciation for every single one of Nishi Uko's or Shimura Takako's works.
I am intruiged by the little insights autobiographical works give us into LGBTQ+ living in Japan like in Honey & Honey, Our Journey To Lesbian Motherhood or Hanayome wa Motodanshi.
I'm excited about learning more about other cultures and ways of story-telling in non-japanese works such as Their Story, Lily Love or Fluttering Feelings or even western comics such as Skim, Lumberjanes, Gunnerkrigg Court or Go Get a Roomie.
I laugh my ass off while reading Is My Hobby Weird.

Well, what I'm trying to say, I think, is that there is a lot of stuff to appreciate nowadays in yuri, isn't there? And that small steps of progress are made towards satisfying every single yuri-need there is out there.
Maybe one day I'll also finally read a well thought out and researched realistic sci-fi story with an intruiging plot and a believable and diverse cast of characters which have bigger goals in life than getting with the person they like but still portraying individual forms of love and respect for another person through emotional more than physical intimacy.
I'm glad to be part of this exciting journey until then :)

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Of course the one passable work of Canno's centres around a straight boy. But boy, is he a good boy. Such a good boy!

The love Suzune felt for her sempai actually feels tangible in this one. Dunno, maybe it just grounds their work better, when they're writing about actual people in supposedly the real world. Not that lesbians are magical or something, just that setting the story in a world populated by various genders and sexual orientations makes it far more believable than your typical girl's school full of lezzies.

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This makes me so uncomfortable... and I don't really know why?
I've read much "worse" Lolicon manga and hentai even but this is just making me so damn queezy... and yet here I am again...

Think I need some time to do some self-reflecting...

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Well, that was simple and straightforward. It's not confusing. On the contrary, it's quite predictable from the moment she said that she tried the bridge thing once.

Yes, it's true that the story is rather straightforward and predictable. From the artwork I also understand what's going on; there are much more artistically confusing works out there.
But it still is very poorly constructed: Changing settings and time in the middle of the page, scenes starting or ending in medias res or drasticly changing mood, all without or with very little indication.
Sure, there are stories or authors who use these techniques for great storytelling but unlike with, let's say, Shimura Takako, it doesn't seem that was the style Canno was going for.

Compare it to watching a well thought out fighting choreography in one movie and a sloppily cut fight in another. Sure, even with half a brain one recognises what who's moving in the room, who's punching who and where the weapons fall. But it just doesn't "flow" well.

At least that's what I thought of this manga. Opinions differ.

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This feels like one of those stories where the author had this deep, powerful scene envisioned but for me, the reader, it just comes off as confusing and lacking oomph.

Yeah, my sentiment entirely...

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Water Depth discussion 31 May 14:27
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Also, credit page!

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Water Depth discussion 31 May 14:25
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I liked this quite some bit. Really sells the feeling of despair MC is talking about; the whole one shot fellt very dreary at time and I don't mean it in a boring way. By the end of it I most certainly forgot the first page and looking at it again... well, looking at it a bit differently now.

The art's also very interesting, liked the contrasts a of sharply rendered and blurry outlines. Also, Imura Ei sure wanted to draw lots of close shot water drops!

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"Like a sea of sweet whipped cream... Painful, and sweet."

...I don't exactly understand what that's supposed to mean, but okay, I guess!!

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This was absolute, and please do pardon my french, bloody shite!
Well, I couldn't be too mad because of the (seemingly) heartfelt author's note at the end... remembered that she's also just a person... I just hope somebody really did appreciate this out there. For Kodama's sake.

Either way, I find it exceptionally strange that I found Cocytus (and the additional story in the manga, let's see if it'll be published here) to be so intruiging and, I daresay, well writen, while everything else from Kodama's just so strangely unenjoyable. I really don't understand myselfe there... well.

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I love this series for the way it realistically portrays how an AI would cope with human emotion/scociety and how humans see it for what it actually is (programms and data) yet can't help but project their emotions onto it - especially the "parents" and Chika.

All other "robot media" lets the an-/gyndroid magically develop a "soul" or whatnot even though it will be a heck lot of work to just figure out everything a droid would need to know to function "human" at all.
And as others already pointed out, the research into the history of robots (Czech relations) and detail to their functionality that Nishi Uko put into this manga really makes it one of my favourites! Always loved her work but this is an entirely different level.

Looking forward to every new chapter!!

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Love Magnet discussion 25 Apr 15:10
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THAT SMOOOOOOOTH FUCKER!!!

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Stretch discussion 17 Apr 10:29
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WOMANCE!!!

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Does anybody else think that this one's very interesting in art choices? It really isn't the most pleasing but it manages to bring a certain feeling across in its details and - for lack of a better word - shot composition.

You really FEEL the girl's desperation in the tight grip she has on teacher-san. Same goes for that determined look she shoots her in home room. And the wordless portrail of teacher-san's memories and that metaphorical dagger also give this manga a sort of artsy vibe.
Then it almost went into porn territory with its amount of body fluids, but hey.

Also a minor detail I enjoyed was teacher-san's torn stocking on page 23. Just pointing it out.

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"Well, Imma just roll under this beautiful canopy bed nobody really uses and listen to you sexing it out. Oh, and I'll also be rubbing one off....don't mind me."

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read... I love it.

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Aww, I'm feeling really bittersweet now~

I could have done with more chapters after growing attached to the charakters more than I expected... but the ending was sweet and as somebody above already said, better end it good than drag it on forever.
Thanks for this litte holiday gift though scanlators and dynasty!

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My Odile discussion 24 Dec 11:39
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Biting? Or would that be too much of a spoiler?

Also, gwennie-chan, great analysis. It made me appreciate this a bit more even though I still think the premise was just too weird (licking somebody's sweat out of nowhere and just cuddling up to a them afterwards, even though MC seemed to not be very fond of her/jealous in the first place...?) and the structure was "meh" as well.
Let's see if this gets a sequel, guess that'll be the time to judge it for what it is. But on its own this just makes me wonder what I just read...

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See, this is the good shit! When they actually show the progression from starting a relationship to going to the next level. That's the shit I want to see. THAT'S ROMANCE! Granted, I would have preferred A LOT more development, but nonetheless I much prefer this to the oneshots/series where the characters jump straight into sex or just go around sleeping with every female character they can find within a 10 mile radius and then it's a dozen times worse when they try to call it romance.*cough* Nadeshiko Hiyori cough Well, that was the weirdest sounding cough I've ever had.
People call me a pervert when I say "I wanna see them get to have sex" but I don't mean "I want to see them have sex," I fucking mean I WANNA SEE THEM GET THERE lol. They can skip the actual scene for all I care. As long as they don't skip everything that should come before. It's honestly one of my favorite things about that yuri manga that we all know and love, Girlfriends.

^ This

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HKX, what is Heidi?

An anime series from the 70s based on a Swiss children's novel. It's really cute and captures the spirits of the alps, even though it is quite romanticized. Either way, the cheese on bread scene from page 12 was a direct reference to it. The black bar doesn't really do much in "concealing her identity" :)

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Ooooh, a Heidi reference in my subtexty yuri goodness? A second helping please!
But seriously, this manga is so cute. And never before have I enjoyed food porn on this level~ Now I'm off to dinner!

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I dunno, I'm also not getting the love triangle vibe from this extra. I mean, haven't any of you ever had a friend who just keeps their distance from people in general? Being one of the few people they actually open up to gives one a feeling of "superiority" that may seem possessive or even as if one had a crush on them but actually you just want to keep being the only one they confide in/show their true colours to.

Well, at least I have confidence enough in Nikatani to stay clear from cliches and tropes. I mean, I love the way they handled the "indirect kiss" thing in chapter 4
http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/eventually_i_will_become_yours_ch04#3

and I believe they'll continue telling a fresh new but real story about budding gaybies/a-/demisexuals.
Well, but then I also had my hopes up for "A Kiss And A White Lily"...

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Gunjo discussion 07 Nov 19:10
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Wtf just happened?! Girlfriend-san is dead, what?! How... Why... What...

Does anybody have an explanation at hand because, I swear, if we have to wait another few months or so for this frenchtoasting resolution I can't promise not to murder my girl crush's good-for-nothing husband to see for myself!

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Image Comments 17 Oct 15:57
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hm, this kind of reminds me of Nagisa and Shizuma from Strawberry Panic

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Gunjo discussion 01 Oct 18:22
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REQUEST ACCEPTED! :D

May I second that :D

Well, it is to the benefit of all readers, so enjoy... then weep like you have never before wept in your life!

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Well that went a different direction than I was expecting... read it last night before sleep... still baffled in the morning... need to work on my own stuff and not worry over this. Still want to know where this is going...

Just finished reading it, just about to go to bed, so I wholeheartedly understand what you went through... just hope this won't leave me all hot and bothered tomorrow, too. It was some huge twist though, so yeah, think I won't have any luck there.

And from what I am reading from other comments, yeah, this manga really is all over the place and its drama is pretty well exaggerated but I enjoy the relationships and the interpersonal turmoil, especially because of their, somewhat artsy, ambiguous nature (I mean what the bloody hell is going on with the father...).
If this was done by the author on purpose or not I can't tell since she hasn't released another story yet, which I, however, very much do hope for.

Well, taa for now fellow lily-lovers, I'm going to bed!