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Happy birthday to the ground!
People actually think edgy shit like this is good. I don't get how people can enjoy depressing works, they're so tiring. Dark, dramatic works have absolutely zero pacing. Like that other story on here recently about the kids chained together and forced to kill each other. Each page outdoes the others with how needlessly violent it can be. It's just a deluge of over-the-top darkness that just leaves me feeling nothing, which is the exact opposite of what a story is supposed to do. It's like the equivalent of eating snow: cold, flavorless and uninspired. Bah, how I loathe stories like this. What a waste.
Really? Maybe you should write up your demand for a happy beginning, middle and ending to every story ever, and submit your findings to every prominent literary journal you can find, because if it's true that stories about tragedy and horror are "just a deluge of over-the-top darkness that just leaves me feeling nothing, which is the exact opposite of what a story is supposed to do," then this theory could revolutionize how the world thinks about literature.
Seriously, though, if you have no interest in reading about things like adversity, loss or human misery, that's your prerogative, but don't confuse an appeal to your personal preferences with legit criticism. Honestly, I'm tired of seeing works getting dismissed as 'edgy' any time something bad happens to a character, as if the idea of putting characters through violence or hardship was a recent invention. If that's your idea of 'edgy', then make sure you don't ever read Kafka, Edgar Alan Poe or Shakespeare.
The creator is lazy but inventive, IMO. I wonder if it's not the whole manga industry Shou is a little angry at. I also doubt he did the shameful mangas out of a devotion to the genre, it was almost certainly guaranteed income. My reaction was: the hentai manga were really bad and should be held against him, it makes you question where his head's really at. Tracing an ad and then altering it substantially? you've gotta be kidding me. that's intellectual property inhibiting creativity, if anything. I was on his side 100% and still am.
As an artist, I think I understand where his plagiarism problem comes from. See, where I studied art, we didn't have required courses on copyright law. I had to learn how to identify plagiarism by studying research writing, and I can tell you that plagiarism, technically, is any time that an original work is referenced without attributing proper credit. This definition applies to any medium, so whether you're writing and you use a quote, data or inference from some published material, or you're an artist and you borrow a pose, composition or any element from a piece of commercial work, if you don't credit the original, then it's plagiarism.
As a student, we all did this. We all reproduced, altered and repurposed published work by established artists. That's not a problem for student and non-commercial work, and it's also not a problem if you have permission from the copyright holders. But it can become a crutch. At some point, you need to be taught about ethics and artistic integrity--because you're not born with that knowledge--but clearly not everyone is.
What I find amazing is the difference in attitudes regarding plagiarism between the Japanese comic industry, which fired Shou for plagiarizing art and cancelled his series, and the American comic industry, which has let plagiarists like Greg Land get away with it for years.
Christ, that ending was so sappy and lame and perfect and I love it.
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I believe that this is exactly the kind of thing that Freddie Mercury said makes the rockin' world go 'round.
I guess my theory's a bust, though I'm not really surprised.
Yuri squid now. Yuri kid now. Yuri squid, yuri kid, yuri squid now.
So here's my theory, which is pretty far-fetched, and I won't be surprised if it turns out I'm completely wrong, or if I've forgotten something that happened which contradicts my theory.
I think Tonogai is Kazuya. I think that at some point in the future he'll awaken to the fact that the real source of all his problems has always been him, and get another shot at reliving that time period, but he'll come back as Tonogai instead of himself. That's why Tonogai's in love with Anna and hostile to Kyou, that's why she says she knows "better than anyone else how much of a miserable, bottom-feeding shitheel he really is," and that would add retrospective significance to this bit:
It's obvious, even if I'm wrong, that she's from the future, just like him, because she has the same kind of foreknowledge. If I'm right, then he'll probably figure in the end that his only shot at atonement will be suicide, but then think better of that and look for a way to try and undo the harm he's already done; hence coming back to kill himself ahead of time.
But maybe that's just optimism--thinking there has to be more to him than simply the worst human being ever.
Homophobia =/= "history of mistreatment" of homosexuals.
Phobia = "a persistent, irrational fear of a specific object, activity, or situation that leads to a compelling desire to avoid it."
[http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/phobia?s=ts]
Homophobia = "unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality."
[http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/homophobia?s=t]
Heterophobia, therefore, = unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward heterosexuals and heterosexuality.
Argumentum ad Dictionarium is a weak approach at best, and tends to totally ignore that words don't occur in a vacuum. They exist in a social context (often multiple contexts), so that yes the term homophobia IS deeply tied up in "history of mistreatment" of homosexuals, as you put it.
As I said earlier, a dislike of hetstuff is a personal preference and indeed a bias. There's no question about that. But even at its strongest, there's no comparison at all with homophobia, as much as many people out there would love to conflate the two. Focusing on some sort of pseudo-medical definition is basically running down a blind alley at best, and in general isn't discussing the same thing the conversation has been about thus far.
Equivocation is pretty weak, too; but simply naming formal fallacies is especially weak.
Anyway, if the controversy is over whether a word is a word or not (i.e. "Heterophobia is a non-existant, childish 'well if they have one so can we' pile of crap.") then I think a dictionary is a good place to source. That is a source with the academic or legal authority to define terms.
If we're talking about 'systemic homophobia' then I would agree that there's no existing analagous 'systemic heterophobia'. But to equivocate systemic homophobia with homophobia and conclude that there is no such thing as heterophobia is not compelling.
So if heterophobia doesn't exist, then what am I supposed to call it when someone goes "EW HET" and starts whining because someone has different tastes than they do?
Heterophobia is a non-existant, childish 'well if they have one so can we' pile of crap. There is no history of mistreatment of heteros. They don't get beaten to death on the street for their sexuality or harassed and told they are going to hell (which has happened to me on more than one occassion). There is no blatant prejudice due to irrational fear and bigotry towards heteros. So cut that "heterophobia" shit out.
You, my ignorant friend, are confusing a preference/taste with something that doesn't exist.
Just like how a hetero can sit there and say s/he doesn't like gay porn because it's not their cup of tea, without directing their discomfort towards the group as a whole, I can say the same about het.
I don't like my yuri being mixed with my het. I want them to remain separate. That doesn't make me [insert imaginary made up word here].
Homophobia =/= "history of mistreatment" of homosexuals.
Phobia = "a persistent, irrational fear of a specific object, activity, or situation that leads to a compelling desire to avoid it."
[http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/phobia?s=ts]
Homophobia = "unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality."
[http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/homophobia?s=t]
Heterophobia, therefore, = unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward heterosexuals and heterosexuality.
I'll grant that the source doesn't recognize 'heterophobia' as a word, and I don't know if any authoritative psychiatric institution specifically recognizes 'heterophobia' as a condition, but if there is such a thing as 'unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward heterosexuals and heterosexuality', and I think it would be childish to assume that this is simply not a thing that can happen, then the word for it is 'heterophobia'. We aren't constrained to use only words that appear in dictionaries or in common use; the origin of the word 'homophobia' only dates back to around 1955, and new terms are being added to the lexicon every day as we recombine roots to describe newly identified concepts.
You may not like your yuri and your het mixed, and want them to remain separate. Of course, you are at liberty to determine your own preferences with regard to what you choose to read and reject. But if you're talking about boycotting a site that chooses to host heterosexual content because you have an unreasoning antipathy toward heterosexuality, as some have suggested here, then that would make you a bigot.
@Nezchan: It's not. Kyouko is wearing a Mitakihara Middle School uniform, hence this takes place during Rebellion.