The fact that two people over the course of roughly 90 pages that use just about any descriptive word they can conjure can't agree on if this story is at the very least worth reading is a clear indicator that it's probably not.

Thanks guys! Keep it up.

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All of them (At Once)
All of them (Separately)
None of them
Alice

It's good and all...but I urge you, after you've read it...read it again...
Now tell me it doesn't sound like an endless cycle. Sure the clone's hair is pink, but that's just to differentiate.
There's just enough details left out that you could perceive it as a loop, the 'Girlfriend' could have been the original all along and the story starts one loop in.

Yes there's a couple dialog pieces that break the theory apart but it's fun to think about.

Dunno if anyone else has said this but it's quite possible that the pigtailed gal is Ouka Zero who is so far beyond the game that even Chihaya Zero doesn't know it's her.

Or alternate Theory is that the pigtailed girl is Chihaya Zero who's so far gone that she's essentially become a fusion of herself and Ouka.

There's the reoccurring trans(?) character who...might also be a Chihaya? You can't travel between levels without Merrik right? yet both the pigtailed gal and the trans(?) character have done it without issue with no Merrik in sight.

Why is it in stories like this, the outliers(ones who decided not to confess/decline confession) are fucking dumbasses in some way shape or form.

Outside of the 'It's for Drama" why does it turn out that way ESPECIALLY those who decline confessions in hopes of holding on to some strange purgatory ass relationship that never regresses but never progresses either?

Like look, I can understand not confessing to a degree, you might not be their type and that would REALLY hurt, but when you decline someone's confession but you're on the fence about them what the hell's the point of declining? Especially when you see them trying to move on.

Like what did you expect? for them to chase you forever like a loyal doggy or something?

Not sure about this author in particular but if Touko is the 3rd party in a potential love triangle, from what I gather from other authors Touko will somehow beyond all logic win that contest.

Authors have this bad habit of purposefully doing weird ass turnarounds near the end of their stories. I'd like to say the asshole usually wins but I will say that in this case between a Yankee and a Bitch it actually COULD go either way.

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Ok, but can we talk about how Yagi has a noose at the ready in her room? The author didn't explore it well and far be it to look TOO deep into an undeveloped character's...well Character, but Yagi is actually a very depressed individual and attracted some surprisingly bad folks to love her.

Abrupt ending aside, when I read the one-shot I kept saying "Something doesn't feel right." and it's not like I was reading too much into Mado but it felt like she was just making all the 'Right Moves' to get beside Yagi and then Koko comes along and does the exact same thing she was just far more aggressive.

I don't really want to make it seem like I'm trying to redeem Yagi, but I know the feeling of someone pushing up on me and having a hard time believing any of those actions are genuine and having absolutely no idea how to deal with it so I just ignore it.

Basically as accurate as Yagi is portrayed, she has poor depth in her writing. 5 more chapters would have saved this story with 1 chapter being dedicated to everyone besides Yagi including Alice, an entire date chapter and a proper chapter AFTER Yagi confesses to Mado.

Stop Fucking around and give me a damn ending. I'm tired of these 'Up In The Air' ass endings. God that shit is so unsatisfying. Even "realistic" stories have their conclusions.

Sigh whatever, it was good then it left me dangling worse than drool from a baby's mouth.

Shouldn't chapter 7 have a 'Time Skip' tag? Or is that spoiler territory?

Het rape is literally on page 02...how did it get tagged as page 1? Lmao

Not sure how many calories Chocolate Kisses have? Need to check the nutritional info.

There's no way in the blue flaming hell that this story would go that way, I've read very VERY few I'm talking 'Count on one hand' few, that WEREN'T hentai that actually went the 3some route...and ironically enough when one DID go the 3some route...it turned into porn so...calm down it ain't happenin.

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We got a bit of depth on Suwako....

All I'm left thinking though is--

"...And?"

Speculation is good and all but the one-shot should've stayed a one-shot if the "Second Chapter" was going to pretty much be the "pages that didn't make it in the first chapter."

I really think there's a tier for manga authors(possibly more-so japan but still in general just people) that when they write in something that society doesn't really care for IE: Incest, they tend to have a habit of giving flimsy reasons why it doesn't stay that way.

While I could see the HikaxYuki from a mile away but that was because I'm already savvy about authors doing what I've previously stated, they shoehorn(though in this case it wasn't SO much of a shoehorn) another interest in there and give a paper thin reason why their relationship blossoms more than the previous relationship that for better or worse seemed to be written as unbreakable. Such as--

--It was all an act.
--Just going along with it.
--Confusion
--More than best friends less than lovers(This one is really popular)

The reason I say 'Paper Thin' is honestly because the author waits until near the end of their series to give these reasons as they wrap up the main plot in what usually becomes a Unsatisfying 'Ship' Voyage.

In this case, if you notice, both sisters got their other lovers based on mirrored reasoning "Protection", it was a throwaway reason and though it might've been planned from the start the execution was slightly lacking from a standpoint of not being aware of the 'Incest but not really Incest' trope...I'm sure there's a Trope on TVTROPES somewhere that explains this.

This usually happens in Drama that involves homosexuality as a main point.
Like this one manga I read, can't remember the name, but essentially it goes like this.

--Boy Likes Girl(Almost obsessing over her)
--Boy gets turned into girl
--Boy still likes girl and continues to pursue girl
--Boy(as girl) gets male friend to help
--Boy(as girl) falls for male friend instead DESPITE GIRL FINALLY FALLING FOR BOY(as girl)

and it's written like we were supposed to expect it all long with a throw away reason such as "They were there for me through the whole ordeal" all to avoid a homosexual relationship(yes despite there being Yuri and/or Yaoi artist who's works are published in Yuri and/or Yaoi-centric magazines)

TL;DR
Authors notoriously give flimsy reasons for why an initial Incest/Homosexual relationship doesn't happen. It's likely a trope, look it up.

50 Shades of Office Lady Yuri...

If overly aggressive characters didn't turn me off, I could probably look past a BDSM story which is also something I don't much care for but both of those are like a strike and a half so it's already an out for me.

That headcanon by Nezchan almost makes me feel like I could read it with those thoughts in mind...almost.

That actually matters very little.

I read a manga where the story was literally "Girl falls for other girl and when said girl moves the other Girl follows her literally running away from home to do so."

3 chapters in and she's super straight for the girl's brother(or cousin).

And I'm like...why establish her as gay and then hit me with "Nope Chuck Testa..." cause now she's super duper straight.

My real point is that writers tend to do this alot, more than I'm comfortable with, I'm not some gay rights protester or super LGBT aficionado(if that even makes sense) but to give a character a clear characteristic like saying they're homosexual only to pretend they didn't have that preference down the line without sufficient explanation ESPECIALLY if the plot originally hinged on the fact that they were previously homosexual immediately yanks me out of the story and immediately makes me not care about the story anymore.

Like a genderbender story I read where the guy was turned into a girl and the whole manga he's(she's) chasing after a girl and immediately when it comes down to the chance to be with the girl it changes like "Nope, male best friend route cause...reasons." which leaves me very salty since the explanation is paper thin as to why it happened. The real reasons is "Because...Heterosexuality wins every time." without question or logic.

It's a cheap tactic to get those people who enjoy GirlxGirl relationships then pull the rug from underneath them.

I'll put it like this.

Do I think there NEEDS to BE a new love interest put in? No not really.

But if and WHEN it happens I'm 79% sure it's going to be a male.

All it's going to take is the guy to prove he won't betray her like the girl did and that's all the explanation you're going to get about why she starts falling for him.

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The drama comes from nothing ._.

Isn't that practically a trope that is common in 80% of all yuri stories?

I think i've never seen the "oh my god, you don't care she's forcing me to worship her and stand by her side to make her shine more. sniffle"

Seriously nothing happened, she's not even forcing her to date or anything like that... At least not to the point of slapping the boyish girl and starting to cry like that.

Edit :
I've been thinking, to me it seems more like a forced club recruitment

Actually it's more like "I thought you might've cared for me like you used to since you said you'd protect me, but now that you see that I'm in trouble(...I guess?) you flat out say you don't care."

I'm not defending her but that's the actual thought process, really both MC's are idiots, one is trying to protect the other in a SEVERELY roundabout way and the other is basically being Tsundere in a SEVERELY roundabout way.

And yes even the 3rd childhood friend is kinda bad since she just goes "Wow...both of you are idiots." but then sits back while eating popcorn while they made complete asses of themselves. Sure, the journey to each other is important but sometimes ya gotta help if only a little bit. Then again...if there were more chapters it might already have happened...too bad there are none.

This is my 2nd read through of it. This could be REALLY good, or REALLY disappointing. But seems like it'll end up like that one Yuri Manga where two girls who like the same senpai become friends only to end up falling for each other but only when one of them manages to go out with said senpai.

This would be almost the reverse, they're already friends and it's going to take someone who's serious about one of them(Shino obviously at this point CH.4) to make one of them realize(Aoi at this point) that there IS love there...how long the author drags that bit of drama out...who knows...3rd friend is probably boyfriending it up somewhere in the background unbeknownst to anyone which would be kind of hilarious, even MORE so if she were already in a Yuri relationship with an older woman lol.

Assisted Suicide.

People want to empathize with the MC because one should never EVER do something stupid for love...Ever...Never...

Okay, that might be true, but regardless of the reason when you KNOW why someone is doing something and still do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING then it's as close to assisting them in their madness as telling them to do it yourself.

Nobodies right in this manga and while I agree she shouldn't coddle the blonde after being a dumbass there was no real reason to stab and twist the blade by going "Yeah, fuck you bitch." I wouldn't be at all surprised if this new chick is some super obsessed Sister-complex Onee-san of the blonde plotting revenge through a very elaborate scheme against the MC.

Because as it stands she's still doing the same thing as previous. Noticing someone's behavior yet doing nothing but over thinking it instead of trying to clarify things directly. Going with the flow just to say it's the fault of someone else when it all goes downhill is blame-worthy just as much as fucking multiple people to get someone to notice you.

I actually like the MC but to say OH she's perfectly right about what she did is a bit sadistic.

"Oh, she likes me eh? Let's see what she does cause I kinda like her too." Hahaha, what?

Oh, are you saying she didn't realize it till she was already fucking 2 guys? I can't really believe that's true.

I don't really sympathize with the blonde but I ain't gonna bash her either, she could have just as-well slept around with different females and the only thing that would've changed is that she wouldn't have gotten pregnant. Could've raped the MC. All of these choices are dumb as hell but she just chose the worst of them cause the consequences were a little TOO heavy to bear.

If the MC would've did something as simple as approach her and say "You need to stop." then I wouldn't see her as a jerkass. I'm already paranoid of the new girl she seems like the Mature, Sadistic, and Conniving type. MC's REALLY about to get it.

I kind of feel like the ending(including the letter) Is one of those interpretive endings.
While I hate those kinds of endings the way the story works kind of makes that kind of ending make sense in a logical way.
It's like saying WE as the observer get to read the letter and from there determine whether or not Gaku-chan read the letter because Yukari ended up dieing anyway or because somewhere down the line Tenjou decided to just give Gaku-chan the letter for whatever reason as she was the person entrusted with it.
Basically what I'm trying to say is that the letter itself creates for us the reader multiple 'Endings'.

So it's like every interpretation is right if we perceive it to be. I guess.

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Hmm...something about Shoujo Sect irked me to no end, just about every character was a jerkass.

I won't lie and say that I understood the dynamics of the story on a scientifically metaphorical level however nothing about it seemed too...STRANGE...to me, in fact my thought was that, the story reached a conclusion I always ask why it never does. Yeah, humans are all selfish by nature, but if you all like each other on a level that wouldn't have you hate one another even if one of you chose the other for love then...why not love each other...all 3. This manga does it...in 5 chapters with no bullshit. Although someone said there wasn't much interest in it to BE longer so...there's that.

inanimatebananamint however blew my mind with the connections, I would've never in, Ever, put all that together. Then again I don't know the artist/author so if it's a usual thing for titles to mean just as much as the content then of course one should try connecting all the dots. Even the ones that seem to sit nowhere near the rest of the cluster.

http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/triangle_struggle_ch04#33

she was right, i guess

Your avatar is oddly appropriate.

Also, I 'WTF'ed through the whole chapter.

I even fooled myself into thinking that it was all a dream of the sister.

Or that the sister was telling her friend.

But no...it was in the present and ALL TOO REAL!

Wowzers.

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If I'm not mistaken "Abandoned" usually means that there's been no update from the translator for so long that it's considered 'Abandoned' rather than when the translator actually announces that they've officially 'Dropped' it for whatever reasons they have.

I'm really confused now.
Is the long hair Rikuo someone from the past 26 years ago or an adult version of the kid Rikuo, who died 10 years ago?

It's my understanding(which is likely wrong) that long haired Rikou was the one who's life continued to repeat over and over again.

This could be because he WAS the kid that died 10 years ago but was ultimately saved by Toko.

MY biggest question though is.

Who was the person possessing Rikuo?

Was it an alternate world Rikuo? If so WHICH one?

It was stated that after things returned to normal the only people who had complete memories of everything was Toko while everyone else had their memories returned to normal but the emotions were still present so they still felt that 'Loss'. Oh...and I think the ACTUAL Rikuo had memories I can't recall.

I think the 2 at the end were pretty much the kids of Umi and Rikou that likely were given those respective names so as to have them lead them back to their(likely much older now) friends. Since they obviously wouldn't be dead just around 30-40.

Also...man I wish that at least ONE story would have it's main story end and just go with a 'Slice of Life' volume afterward. But that'd probably defeat the purpose of the story before it.

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Lol I was actually kind of waiting for the reveal that the president was a guy as-well.

Funny how she never got a name. Guess that's what she gets for being so OP.