I still never got anyone else's opinion on Citrus' speculated length... Thoughts?

The most likely scenario is for the story to span all of their high school life and given the pace time has passed so far I'd say about eigth or twelve chapters more.

Elementary

Joan Watson is simply amazing and complements Sherlock perfectly

The author turned feminist along the road (maybe something happened?) and his comic which was mainly about poking fun at various religions and some flirty innuendo, turned into "war on patriarchy".

Monique becoming lesbian was part of that change of focus. It makes sense, because she realizes that all this time, she's been an object and even Slick only sees her as potential sexual partner, not as a person.

Monica turning into a lesbian didn't make sense in Wapsisquare probably because the focus of the story didn't change. The character changed for no good reason.

Obviously, Tatsuya Ishida hates the way women are treated in today's society. From a fun oriented comic, it turned into a very political statement.

The only honest male character is Criminy, a kind bookworm. All of the orthers are slave to their desires.

I can understand where he comes from though, because his criticism of the male-oriented society, catering to their desires in order to make money, often hits home, even though it's not as grim as he makes it to be.

If the guy wants to make a political statement, well, that's his choice. The problem is Sinfest's format and foundations don't offer a solid platform for those statements.

Writing is all over the place and in what I want to think is Tats' eagerness to represent feminism, it only ends with shallow plots suffering a lot of "telling not showing", horrible pacing, narrative bending and being retconned by the statements instead of the statement being organically included within the narrative.

He tries to make the sisterhood relatable and the new heroes of the strip but they never face any obstacle and in fact, plenty of plots have been caused by them.

Considering the reaction to ch 16 raws and rough translation, is the former.

That's how the myth traditionally goes, yeah.

But I guess the author thought it was too much already. Then again, there's a slime and what it could be an eldritch horror among the cast...

Well, Luz is young and somewhat of a goofball. Plus this depiction of Kitsunes seem to lean more in the trickster aspect of the myth.

I don't know why some people felt like the (implied) suicide came out of nowhere. I won't say I wasn't surprised, but Tomo committing suicide seems to me a very plausible, reasonable development. I mean, did she seem happy to anyone else? Looking for a purpose, unable to get close to anyone, tinges of (somewhat justified) self-hatred, overthinker, unhealthy habits . . . seems like a classic candidate for suicide, actually.
And at the same time, I can see why someone might get obsessed by her. The cool self-reliance, the almost unconscious style, the clearly impressive intellect . . . in many ways, objectively she's a horrible person, but there's this strong "What if?" that says there's an amazing person there if only she'd stop stifling it, if only she could be saved from the shit (much of it self-inflicted) that's crippling her . . . people do get obsessed with that kind of person. So it's kind of realistic.

Overall, although this was both a sad and depressing story, I thought it was very well done and I didn't find it repugnant. This is a good one. Unlike (spits on ground ritually) "The feelings we all must endure" which I did find repugnant, and which I actually thought had some serious flaws in execution as well.

I must say Amano Shuninta is, if nothing else, an exciting writer. You never know if you're going to get happy or sad, cynical or relatively pure, and it's hard to even be sure if quality-wise you're going to get excellent or crap. But that does mean that when you start reading one of her works you can't readily predict what's going to happen.

The problem with the suicide is that had the same emotional impact than this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wZzoeI1pKE

Cute art but a shallow plot. Oh well.

I'm of the opinion that there's no new nor old mari. Just a girl with incredibly deep psychological issues

Very cute, although I'd like somewhat more substance in the plot (if it can be called like that)

So there's a reason for the sudden stop on flashback land? Not that I don't like it, mind you.

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Is more than the series is following a pretty defined structure:

Plot related arc->filler/breath chapters->repeat

Certainly not the most optimal way to handle a story but somewhat expected. The author is fond of having polls on his website to allow the fanbase to pick what monster girl is gonna be introduced next. This usually leads to good moments where more world building is don but in others the attempt falls a little flat.

The recent farm chapter is the by far the lowest point with the fanservice being even more prominent than the usual and having some developments that contradict the rule sof the setting. Luckily, the next arc is focused on Mero and shows a lot of promise.

Oh right, there are three more chapter released already.

Good stuff

The problem with the "sneaky shit" is that it doesn't makes a lick of sense in the context of the plot. I mean, can you honestly believe that the girl spends all her time alone is able to run a "escort" service for rich people?

For that to work she should've been depicted surrounded or talking with random girls every now and then.

And the worst thing is that you could fix that easily, instead of making Tomo a pimp make it so she is prosituting herself. That would also fit neatly in the idea of Tomo being depressed and utherly apathetic about her own being.

I feel bad for laughing at the revelation of her death, but i couldn't help it

I didn't but I almost felt I should.
It reminded me of some dramatic anime I didn't like where an adult chased a ball into the street, got ran over and died.
I was like . . . yeah. Alright. Sure.

I found it like "Tomo died on her way to her home planet"

If I had to say something about this, I'd probably call it a story about being in love with a chronically depressed person? I feel like it all fits together, in that light. Her empty room, her unsociable nature, the way she was always tired and late to class even though she was never really busy, her cold refusal to connect with the people who care about her in spite of her private sentimentality and longing for contact, the aimlessness of drifting around in college with no meaningful intention of graduating, her vague decision to "travel", with no particular destination, even though she'd necessarily been saving up money for years to do so, her mysterious end in some far away place, where nobody knew who she was... Oh, come to think of it, in that last scene with Ai, she freely gives away the books she'd chosen to take with her, returning the lighter, uncharacteristically letting Ai see more of her feelings than probably anyone else has in years. It's actually quite normal behaviour, among people who have decided to commit suicide. As is everything we ever saw of her.

If it's like that, it's understandable why the entire story seemed so lacklustre and nonsensical for many people. The behaviour of depression is basically incomprehensible if you try to rationalise it in terms of how healthy people think, no wonder it makes no sense. It's alienating, but to a very specific kind of person, it feels deeply, chokingly familiar.

Man. Now I want a cigarette.

See, if the story would've ended with Tomo leaving and Ai moving on it would've been a good if dissapointing ending. Adding Tomo's extraofficial activities, the suicide, Ai hung up on her love for a people she really never truly knew and the magical identical looking kid at the end throws any theme and seriousness of the story's message out of the window and renders the whole thing pointless.

Wait... there's a brother? When did... what? People here are saying that wasn't Tomo, but it clearly was. I'm confused.

Almost as confused as I am about there being a pimp specifically for middle-aged, bisexual housewives.

Guess Tomo was a huge fan of the Marquis of Sade.

I am not a fan of the ending...I would be okay with the ending if it ended when Tomo left. That after story, to me, was kind of shitty...especially the appearance of a new character who resembles Tomo Why can't it just be Tomo. I really enjoyed the story, but not very much the ending.

The reveal of Tomo being a pimp comes from nowhere and clashes so bad with the story themes that comes off like being added just for drama's sake

That is exactly what happened.

When the strip started Nique was a classic example of "femme fatale", using her femenine charm to play and dominate men. Out of 11 years she only showed interest on women in TWO ocassions and both times were she just trolling.

In fact, the sexual tension (and posterior relationship) between her and Slick was one of the main plots of the strip.

Then all of the sudden Monique "sees the light", becomes embarrassed of her past behavior, becomes a sisterhood mouth piece and suddenly develops interest on women.

Now that was an unbelievable shitty ending.

It was bad enough (if thematically appropiate for the story themes) up Tomo leaving, everything that came later was just stupid.

It's trash.

Indeed, but even trash can be interesting from time on time.

The watersports gimmick got old after the third story though.

I never knew SOFTCHARM actually published a full manga. Interesting read.

Oh right, there's Sinfest that I suppose everyone knows.

One of the two main characters (Monique) turned lesbian and dates a demon-girl.

All in all, Sinfest, after 15 years, turned into an ultra-feminist webcomic.

Shame that now is utter trash.

I used ot like it.

To each their own. You can say you don't like it anymore, but not that it's trash.

I still kinda like it. The art has improved a lot over the years. Most of the characters are interesting.

Monique and her girlfriend are cute.

Fuchsia and Criminy are cute.

Though I don't like much what the author is doing to Slick. He used to be a nice guy, though a pervert, with a thing for Monique.

Now, he's sinking into hell and seem unable to redeem himself, just because he's male.

The art is good but the plots doesn't make any sense now, characterizations are murdered just because (Monique being a lesbian comes absolutely from nowhere), every attempt of Tats to make a feminist statement is so clumsy and poorly thought that loses any meaning, men's suffering is played for laughs and the sisterhood is such mary sues that there's no tension whatsoever on the strips.

Oh right, there's Sinfest that I suppose everyone knows.

One of the two main characters (Monique) turned lesbian and dates a demon-girl.

All in all, Sinfest, after 15 years, turned into an ultra-feminist webcomic.

Shame that now is utter trash.

I used ot like it.

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Chapter 3, yeah... I think that Moe's character changed too quickly, even though it's a hentai series.

See it like this, is the lesbian porn equivalent of training montages.