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FluffyCow
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It's also hard to say because the director for GWitch got in the last word by going over the cowardly/homophobic Bandai producer, via effectively saying you can interpret them as married because that's what they are. Since Bandai is still a producer for Gundam and supplies money for the franchise I have to wonder if they'll ever allow that again, or if they'll try to tighten their control over Gundam. So GWitch and the director coming out to say they're married might be a one time situation for now. We'll have to see though, as I would love for these two to be a couple as well.

FluffyCow
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^Boat is correct here. Gigi was being a gremlin about memes and turned Bogos into Boat Goes while playing Minecraft, https://youtu.be/x_bqyNftOpQ

FluffyCow
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Task failed successfully...?

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Perfect morning of waking up to the person you love the most

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^I think so, I've noticed a bunch of older GRS art around the internet lately and that was my first thought at least

FluffyCow
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Seems they went from building snowmen to building babies in the later years

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That's some proper wife love

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Bocchi Le French

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I'm very out of the loop with Deltarune but I can at least say tail wagging and kabedon is a powerful combination, cute stuff

FluffyCow
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Flirting with the cute fire girl and smooching her is more important than winning games I'd argue

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She's gonna bust some ghosts so to speak

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I'm guessing Luka had enough fondling and is taking Miku to bed

FluffyCow
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And now they're both pregnant

FluffyCow
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Really putting her finger techniques to good use

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GF charging is powerful

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It's finally on Dynasty ^_^
Quite a number of people on Pinterest and some on Twitter are saying the girl with straight hair resembles Ado's character and now I can't unsee it :D
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/strange_bedfellows#10
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/512917845091644845/

lol yeah I can see it

FluffyCow
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Well that's a uniquely fucked up combination lol

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I think the implications of NTR are worse, especially when sexual conversion shares an overlap with NTR, and that's the impression I personally got here. Maybe it's not that serious or going that route, but it immediately gave me a yuck impression when I read it because NTR comes with a reputation.

Look, I don't mean to make you feel like you have to defend your preferences or anything and I'm sorry if I did. But there is a big difference between "I dislike sexual conversion" and "I got a yuck impression because NTR comes with a reputation." I agree there are some sexual conversion implications to this work, but those aren't because it uses the word 'NTR,' it's because of things like the aforementioned "Even if your heart says no... I'll make your body unable to live without me!!" But people aren't talking about that, people are talking about NTR because they've developed a disgust reaction to that one word.

I admit I am partially frustrated because I've seen over and over in different manga communities that whenever a work brings up NTR, regardless of context, legions of people post about how much they hate it and how awful it is and I've just grown tired of it lol. This is a stupid ecchi comedy manga that's very clearly going to be about the moron protagonist trying to seduce her childhood friend by copying hentai tropes and we've spent 4+ pages arguing over the fact that the word 'NTR' shows up on it. I just think it's a little disproportionate, you know?

I think it at the very least allows me to make a good educated guess about what comes next, considering it's the literal conclusion of the whole first chapter.

We can conclude what'll come next is the protagonist trying to seduce her childhood friend, since that's what she's saying she'll do. That's literally all that she means when she says 'NTR.' You can speculate about why the author chose to use that word (even though I think it's clearly just meant to be a dumb joke) but the actual meaning of what she's saying is "I'm going to seduce my friend into loving me."

I don't see why people should stop themselves from leaving negative comments.

You're of course free to, just as I'm free to think people's criticisms are bad :p

Edit: To put it another way, I feel like a lot of people aren't actually criticizing the manga itself, they're criticizing the concept of 'NTR' they have in their heads and projecting it onto the manga. I don't think that's valid criticism. Dislike the manga all you like, there's plenty to dislike about it (the boobs are ridiculously huge, the characters are dumb, the plot is absurd, etc), but dislike it for what it's actually doing!

You have your views + opinions and I have mine. It feels like a lot of this discussion is coming down to semantics and we're talking ourselves in circles because we're not going to agree. That's fine, I'm happy to agree to disagree and move on. I wish you well and a pleasant day/evening.

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joined Sep 27, 2017

Consider: it's a joke meant to signal the protagonist is the idiot lead of an ecchi comedy manga.

I certainly understand that this was the intent, the problem is that I don't find that bit funny and I can't really imagine I will be very amused by the rest of it if this is the standard we're setting :P

Then the manga is not for you. But I would suggest you should judge that based on the chapter as a whole, and not the usage of this one particular word.

(I thought it was funny lol.)

Ultimately I judged the chapter as a whole and not the single word, though the word does have a certain amount of gravity with the framing for me, and after reading it I determined it wasn't for me or my type of humor.

So many people here want to keep to basically keep saying I'm invalid for having a bad first impression, I should lighten up, laugh at the series, have fun. That's more of what I'm responding to than anything at this point. I have my view point and I think it's valid just as much people think that enjoy the series are also valid.

I couldn't care less if people don't like this manga. I just find it bizarre that so many people (not just you) didn't merely click away after not liking it but felt the need to post multiple times about how they're totally justified in not liking it because of how morally awful NTR is. That this manga didn't receive nearly the same reaction despite being objectively morally worse indicates to me this isn't about morality, it's about a learned disgust reaction people have developed to the specific term "NTR."

It is totally valid to dislike stories about cheating, or dubious consent, or any of the other factors we associate with the word "NTR." But I don't think it's totally valid to dislike a story merely for using the word "NTR" even though it doesn't contain any cheating and -- at least as of yet -- does not contain any dubcon either.

I think the implications of NTR are worse, especially when sexual conversion shares an overlap with NTR, and that's the impression I personally got here. Maybe it's not that serious or going that route, but it immediately gave me a yuck impression when I read it because NTR comes with a reputation.

Also I'm stating things for myself and what I think. I'm not stating I'm morally superior to anyone for disliking NTR. If people love this series more power to them. I kept reading the discussion because I was interested in what people had to say, I gave another response to further state my thoughts and the yuck feeling I had from my first impression. Followed by the next day reading more of the discussion and finding that it felt like I had to defend that I disliked the first chapter and got a bad first impression, and it's just been going from there with a lot more of that. Now I'm having to defend that I'm reading the discussion because you're telling me I should just click away lol

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So it really is you two have a strong negative reaction to the term "NTR" specifically?

Kinda yes? It just signals to me that the rest of this series will run on porn logic with a porn-brained character, should I now assume that the rest of the series will be magically about something else? I'm not even necessarily opposed to have cheating in stories but this one went for this specific term, displaying it front and center, it surely means something.

Consider: it's a joke meant to signal the protagonist is the idiot lead of an ecchi comedy manga. Especially given the context that she just realized she was gay as a result of masturbating.

Well I already more or less addressed this in an earlier response where I said in regards to the NTR, "Maybe my strong feelings there are having me read more into the story than I should, all I can say is my first impression was bad". Maybe it's a dumb NTR gag series or whatnot, but I just didn't enjoy my first impression of it.

It's not tagged as NTR, and I give chapters 1-3 of most things a fair chance. . . . I just had a strong reaction to the NTR theming and have been discussing it.

Okay, but the cover page contains the quote "Even if your heart says no... I'll make your body unable to live without me!!" The NTR theming was there from the very beginning. What wasn't was the specific term 'NTR.' And frankly I think people need to get over their aversion to that one word, especially when that aversion caused 4+ pages of heated debate about a dumb ecchi comedy manga lol.

I'm saying the tag helps you know what you're getting into before you even click on something. Also I still wanted to give the first chapter a fair chance. I could have stopped at the cover page but I again wanted to give it a fair read. You think people should have less of an aversion to the word NTR, and I don't agree. Also yeah there's a lot of back and fourth, but I'm not the only one responding here either lol

I just don't think the author expects anyone to take it seriously for the reasons I put in my original comment. The character uses the words NTR but we can see in the chapter what the situation actually is and how naive and silly she and her friend are. The whole thing just seems tongue in cheek, so the response has been something (especially after only a chapter).

Feels like for this I can once again quote myself where I said in regards to the NTR, "Maybe my strong feelings there are having me read more into the story than I should, all I can say is my first impression was bad". I might dislike the series more strongly than I should, though I also don't think it's the end of the world.

So many people here want to basically keep saying I'm invalid for having a bad first impression, I should lighten up, laugh at the series, have fun. That's more of what I'm responding to than anything at this point. I have my view point and I think it's valid just as much people that enjoy the series are also valid.

Basically the author made an omelet and sprinkled some NTR on top, that's just not my thing.

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joined Sep 27, 2017

Fucking someone gay only works in hentai girl, luckily you're in an ecchi so there's a high chance.

Piggybacking off my first comment, I know people dislike NTR but why is everyone losing it so hard over a dumb soft core porn manga being dumb soft core porn?
She's not even together with the guy yet everyone in the comments is going completely insane.

As I said in my last comment, "Which the comments turned into a more serious situation than the series it's self I think lol"

Which includes myself. I think the discussion got serious in varied regards, and so it's been going back and fourth for awhile now. We're at a point where the discussion is more about the discussion than the series. You're saying we're all insane, and so now I'm responding to that lol

Which also "She's not even together with the guy yet", there's also been a lot of back and fourth on that. Which the series still has NTR theming at the very least, if the author didn't want that in there they shouldn't have put it in there.

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I'm not the one that titled the series in typical NTR fashion and had the MC pull an NTR book out. Even if the NTR set up doesn't hold a lot of water, it's still seemingly the author's intent. Maybe the author author wanted to make diet NTR, but NTR to me is all the same to me, simply not my cup of soda, diet or otherwise.

That's how she framed it though, doesn't even matter if it's true or not :P Overall it's plenty of reasons why this strongly doesn't appeal to plenty of people.

So it really is you two have a strong negative reaction to the term "NTR" specifically? I guess that's fair enough, though it does make me wonder why you even read the manga in the first place.

It's not tagged as NTR, and I give chapters 1-3 of most things a fair chance. We're not the only ones that aren't a fan of the set up, though I think if people enjoy the story so far that's fine. I'm not going to tell people what to enjoy or not, especially with a fictional story like this, if people think the story is fun more power to them. I just had a strong reaction to the NTR theming and have been discussing it. Which the comments turned into a more serious situation than the series it's self I think lol

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no apologizing, not only was this funny but also spot on

Thanks lol

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It's kind of an outlier. This manga (link broken when quoting), for example, is actually cheating (and even has dubcon) but it didn't get nearly this amount of negative reaction. I'm honestly not sure why it might just be the people who happened to comment first set the tone. Either that or people just have an extremely strong negative reaction to the term "NTR" specifically (fully possible).

I think I have an easier time seeing where that manga goes because it immediately states that she's dating her boyfriend as a social obligation. So it's her trying to figure out if she wants to be with her social obligation partner, or a partner that's really into her. It feels comphet meets idiot couple more than anything

Imo "I'm in love with him because he picked up my money" also carries strong comphet overtones and the protagonist of this manga is certainly an idiot lol.

That's fair. For me I got a worse impression from this I think due to the framing and NTR angle being so specifically stated in this story. If she simply went, wait don't date that guy, I love you and I can prove I can be a good partner!, or something along those lines it would be fine. However it's off putting that this story at the very end had her go oh yeah it's cucking time and then she cucked all over the place...I apologize for the incredibly stupid Morbius joke but I couldn't help myself lol

But the friend isn't dating anyone at the moment. We don't even know if this guy likes her or even knows her. He just helped out once.

I'm not the one that titled the series in typical NTR fashion and had the MC pull an NTR book out. Even if the NTR set up doesn't hold a lot of water, it's still seemingly the author's intent. Maybe the author author wanted to make diet NTR, but NTR to me is all the same to me, simply not my cup of soda, diet or otherwise.

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It's kind of an outlier. This manga (link broken when quoting), for example, is actually cheating (and even has dubcon) but it didn't get nearly this amount of negative reaction. I'm honestly not sure why it might just be the people who happened to comment first set the tone. Either that or people just have an extremely strong negative reaction to the term "NTR" specifically (fully possible).

I think I have an easier time seeing where that manga goes because it immediately states that she's dating her boyfriend as a social obligation. So it's her trying to figure out if she wants to be with her social obligation partner, or a partner that's really into her. It feels comphet meets idiot couple more than anything

Imo "I'm in love with him because he picked up my money" also carries strong comphet overtones and the protagonist of this manga is certainly an idiot lol.

That's fair. For me I got a worse impression from this I think due to the framing and NTR angle being so specifically stated in this story. If she simply went, wait don't date that guy, I love you and I can prove I can be a good partner!, or something along those lines it would be fine. However it's off putting that this story at the very end had her go oh yeah it's cucking time and then she cucked all over the place...I apologize for the incredibly stupid Morbius joke but I couldn't help myself lol