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Grail
Image Comments 11 Dec 20:50
Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017
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Oh boy! That one game that got me into the series! I love how gay all the girls are for Pratty. Shame about how Sanary got treated though.

Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017

Sleeping together to deepen the relationship? You are supposed to take baths together first you dum dum. Honestly these extradimensional people...

Really, the best explanation we get for the transformation device is "I got it at a shopping mall" is... Alright, which shady alley did you go to and who's the mystery NPC that sold you the good? 'Cause that's either really dumb story hax or some really convoluted plot device thing you'd see in a Kamen Rider show. Speaking of which, this is the second time we see Rabbit got broken out of her transformation. This is going to be a running gag isn't it.

Grail
First Time discussion 22 Nov 23:13
Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017

Forget about you dying from Kokoro. The readers are getting slaughtered here. Goodness me

Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017

Tokusatsu gun sure is useful. Honey went from naked bandage woman to fully attired office lady with the push of a gun trigger. I want one of these gizmos

Grail
Image Comments 20 Nov 03:04
Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017
19782423_p9

Yes yes yes!

Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017

C-commando. That's... really taking laziness to the next level.

Grail
Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017

Well that's one way to put a lid on the delinquent girl.

Just be much tougher and scarier than said delinquent.

Grail
Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017

Wow. 555 comments. Do I want to break that perfect number?

Yes.

So is little sister tsundere or yandere? Scary girl

Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017

I can practically feel the heat from this. Yeowza

Grail
Image Comments 07 Nov 04:17
Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017
Femc_putting_on_coat

An oldie but a goodie

Grail
Yuri Moyou discussion 06 Nov 03:01
Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017

What a dense boss. Time to call the yuri fairy

Grail
Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017

Author: I don't know how to solve this and still get a happy end. Oooh! I know! I'll just give both of them amnesia!

So all that agony led to this? Feels like a cheap cop out. Did we need all those personalities at the start even? So to solve all the life's problem you basically kill your personalities or a car crash induced amnesia will reset everything...

What? What?!

Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017

Ah. Ok. Reading the process of the original line now it makes more sense that Yuu is indeed the speaker. So I can see where that Yuu feels superior thing is coming from. The English line read like it was from Emi, ("She cried to me, her best friend.") the thought bubbles also seem to hover around Emi, hence the confusion.

I'd give anyone who tries to forcibly decide what's the best for me a wide wide berth. Emi gets a lot of downvotes because she's doing all these things without ever talking it out with the other party who is directly affected by this: Yuu. It's not good behavior. It most certainly is not a BFF thing. It's selfish. It's all about Emi's feelings, but she didn't consider what Yuu might need. You can be selfish, but you also need to consider what your actions' effects on other people. Keep in mind, Emi's been doing this thing for years. Time is indeed a factor. People mature and learn from experience with age. What did Emi learn? Nada. I already get plenty frustrated when I read mainstream titles where the main protagonist does not mature one bit at all hundreds of chapters later. That's one of my biggest no no when it comes to a story.

Exploring concept of love and what it is is fine. But all this other nasty stuff that comes with it? Yeah don't do that. If you got questions and issues, you freaking communicate without doing all this roundabout love interest hijacking. I know this is a yuri community and all that, but there's no need to vilify all men in the story. Although drama sempai got what's coming to him in this case.

I’m not sure what’s up with all these super negative interpretations of the story

Relationship is hard. Drama is fun. It's easier to assume the worst possible situation rather than the reverse. We've also got a lot of heavy hitting drama and feel trains going on lately. Tone of the story also didn't help with whatever positive theory that may float people's boat. Tragedy/negativity and yuri stories also seem to be an extremely common combo, so... Blame it on past experience rather than the audience.

Grail
Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017

"I love you, girl I met 14 seconds ago!"
14 seconds later
"Oh no, she is gone, how poignant our love was"

That about sums it up.

I gave negative comment because I have issues with the story, not because I dislike tragedy. If the story makes sense and it flows, I have no problem. But this...

I'm going to give this one flak for the way the scenario was setup. Two girls thought their love may get crushed by busybody adults so they went to the witch of the ABYSS. Eternity apparently meant you fall asleep while the love of your life decomposes right next to you. So romantic. Now we have the next victim lining up to hear the spoopy story and then becoming trapped in the curse. (never mind how eager and puppy eyed these girls are. It's like they are waiting for their favorite grandma to tell them a cool ghost story by the campfire. Danger? Curses? What're those?) In a literal blink of an eye, the first victim wakes up to fresh meat showing up. Ok, what does victim number 1 do? Ominous "so you're the next". Basically implying this cycle repeats again and this feelings of love continue, just with new meat thrown into it every cycle.

So the only thing preserved are these feelings which become more like actual curses, just super self-contained if you are not dumb enough to seek out the story.

I'm vastly more annoyed than saddened because this story feels empty. The original girl (assuming indeed the original girl) wakes up and she seems very much aware that this was going to be the end result. She expected this. She doesn't seem bothered by it that much. She only cries at the end of her story, and right before the sleep of death occurs.

We've gotten some tragic stories since it's Spookoween, but this one was bland after reading Please. Please had all the right setup. It was subtle. You knew from the start something was off. And then you get to the end and you get hit by the feel train. Chapel could have been handled better. The story instead should start not at the church where the girl recounts the story, but maybe at the starting point where the two girls felt pressured to go the witch to keep their undying love going. That way we get to see first hand how much emotional impact it had on the first pair. But no, the way this girl tells her story is more like me trying to explain my supermarket shopping trip. Except my supermarket story doesn't end with dead people.

Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017

I expected Cthulhu. I've been bamboozled.

Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017

???

That protagonist line reads like it belongs to Emi's though? Unless Yuu decided to start doing inner monologue in 3rd person all of a sudden. Did the original read differently?

Emi's obsession towards Yuu is very obvious, but Yuu's view of Emi as source of self-importance/trophy...? I already reread through this short story several times to the point I'm getting sick of it and I still can't find more evidence to support that. Unless it's the ending pages where Yuu kisses Emi and then gives her the cat. Insert credit page reaction Yuu's attitude towards Emi in adult years seem more annoyed rather than "imma keep this ho around to make myself feel better." If she does perceive Emi as a way to inflate her ego, wouldn't she be smugger in general and less confrontational in the 3rd chapter? 3rd chapter's drama didn't kickstart until Emi had that explosive moment with whatshisname. Yuu calls Emi out on her bullshit and worst friend ever behaviors.

Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017

Must be well acquainted with tragic tropes. She's an avid reader after all.

Was this story better when readers couldn't tell WTF was going on, or is it better when readers are told directly WTF is going on?

Please just put me out of my misery sooner. As much as I enjoy speculations and writing a long tirade about tragedy in yuri, give me something direct for once so I can just let it go. This is fine. There were hints about the different person. And we finally got the big reveal so all the readers can also let it go like the MC.

As far as The Twist goes, it's better when we are told WTF it was in this case. There's no point in dragging the mystery on forever, it'd end up being a *Nisekoi situation. Nobody wants another Nisekoi situation.

*Goddamn it, so which girl did the idiot make that promise with. Etc. How long can this dumb rom com continue without a proper resolution.

Grail
Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017

Witch
Of the Abyss

Therein lies the problem. What did they expect to happen if they go talk to a Kyubey like figure about a wish? Really, just look at the name. Meh.

Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017

I was ready for Yuu to straight up dump Emi like the sack of potato she was. Smh.

angry ranting about Emi redacted

Since the ending is vague as hell for me and therefore entirely up for my own biased personal interpretation. My own take is -

If we take what the terrible friend say about the toy cat at face value: "I have to do it or it doesn't count." If Yuu gives her the cat charm, this relationship is bupkiss. Since I find this "friend" 'utterly unlikable, she got dumped. Yuu is moving on and leaving this moron behind. Shallow take #1.*Yes, I'm entirely avoiding the hand holding panel.*

I'm not sure if either person has the usual romantic feelings towards the other party. (Oh noz, realism in my manga /s) Adult Yuu mentioned in chapter 2 that she gets a bit of superiority complex because of Emi's obsession towards her. And then if you look at the earlier timeline during middle school in chapter 2, when Yuu gets turned down by the guy she went crying to Eimi. What happens here? "*The moment she cried to me, her best friend, I became the protagonist."* I... wha?

Emi likes to feel important/"be of use" to Yuu, but if Yuu leaves her for a romantic partner, Emi is out of the picture. Since Emi is unable to comprehend love, she decides to imitate Yuu's behavior. Usually, imitating someone is a good way to learn things. But since we're talking about love and all sorts of emotional stuff that goes into this, it's not something this dense ass b can comprehend. She steals Yuu's love interests as a way to make sure no filthy men take away the only worthy person she has. While she may start out trying to understand love, but a lot of selfish things got mixed into it and she became a doucehbag.

"I hate things like love."

Because she can't understand it. Doesn't understand it. Won't accept it. It takes Yuu away from her. If she keeps taking the things that Yuu loves repeatedly then maybe she'll finally understand it. I get that concept of love may be different for everybody, but there are ways to go about this without becoming an utter prick.

Here's another reading of the last couple of pages:
Here's your dumb cat -> I'm running the show now -> Takes the lead -> Hand holding scene -> This is just a small payback for all the emotional garbage you made me go through -> Super fitting credit page


Dialing back to an earlier thought, is this love between the two or just weird (none?) friendship thing? I don't mean close girl pals either, I mean really hazy, foggy, indeterminate thing. Since the power dynamics is off. It feels like general insecurity coming from Emi because she feels she got left behind or not being the special number one person anymore. She also doesn't exhibit any of the usual behaviors of someone being in love. No, kicking a guy out of the chair doesn't mean anything. That can just be a possessive thing going on. Being kissed by Yuu only made her feel gross and suffocating. So...?

Grail
Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017

Uwa. Now this is really just overdoing on the drama.

Seriously, murder? This new quack is bonkers.

Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017

Awooo
On page 5

Grail
Please discussion 26 Oct 03:02
Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017

I do feel that putting a tragedy tag will be a big spoiler. Given how innocuous the beginning looked. Weirdly I'm ok with the Depressing as fuck tag, although technically, both implies tragic things will happen. I'd just stick with the drama tag.

Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017

Since this appeared on the Random Chapter. I'm just going to say this.

______ fucks like a tiger.

Had to get it out of my system.

Grail
Please discussion 25 Oct 23:03
Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017

I got a Silent Hill vibe at the start, guess there was a reason for that after all.

The suicide wasn't intentional. She fell asleep in the tub. She may still be drowsy from the sleeping pills effect and/or emotional exhaustion even though she just woke up. Her girlfriend did make that promise to her about going to the ocean somewhere shortly before she fell asleep. Unless that was all in her head, but her reactions after waking up says otherwise. So she didn't intend to die at all. Just chalk it up to an unfortunate accident if anything.

There are some bits of the flashbacks where it feels more nightmarish than actual events, unsure if that was the intended effect. It sucks that she's basically stuck in this loop forever. What the fuck is this, Silent Hill?

Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017

Yes it's definitely from all the groping... (・(ェ)・)  
Time to ditch the groper and find someone else.