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Kind of a filler chapter, although I did like the yuri vibe between Koyomi and the writer.
It resonates quite well with Touko's background and the play script. Essentially Koyomi got her own experience of having expectations based on someone's acts that do not match the reality.

In other words, Koyomi | Protagonist | Touko
sees the author | herself | herself
based on author's books | memories of protagonist friends | expectations of people surrounding her.
But in reality Koyomi | Protagonist | Touko
finds the author | herself | herself
to be a lot different.

This impacts Koyomi to become better at what she wants to be in the future. So I assume the same happens to Protagonist and Touko.
The realisation to the Protagonist will come through the nurse. To Touko through the Play changed by Yuu.

All of this was kinda established already in chapter 23 though, which is why I found the chapter to be more of a filler.

takachi
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Look here
https://myanimelist.net/anime/genre/26/Shoujo_Ai
And you will very soon realise that there's no good yuri in anime at all. With Adolescence of Utena probably being the only exception, but you can't appreciate it without watching the series, which is mostly subtext.
Point is, there's hardly much of a difference with manga too. It's not as bad, but oh well... not like it's much different in other media either.
So yeah, make your own one instead! That would be my advice.

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It's just a phase.

It's just a bait.

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Beloved L discussion 07 Oct 18:09
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Unlikely but still possible - rape, as a contrast to the mutual intercourse between the girl and the doctor.

The art style and story-telling are somehow very reminiscent... I have some crazy idea about the actual author... Does anyone know where it is being published? forget the stupid question - found it

last edited at Oct 7, 2016 6:13PM

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And that final scene with the fireworks was shot 100% like any other, "Oh man I want to kiss you" romance scene. I'm going to be seriously pissed at KyoAni if they try backing out of this, because it's undeniably designed to be read as a romantic relationship at this point.

It was undeniable in the first season too, lol. But I am going to be VERY surprised if there's even a slight hint of anything beyond subtext, at least this season. I only expect yuri teasing. A LOT of it. And I kinda like it this way.
Speaking of which, has anyone read all three volumes of the novel? Is there any romance resolution at all at the end? Or is it still not considered complete and more volumes are expected? Guess if it sells well, the latter's pretty realistic.

takachi
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Really nice to see Yuu falling in love. She deserves it. She's a good girl. And Touko is a good match for her. And I also really liked to see that Yuu's friend was so observant. I'm sure she'll read the two quite quickly. Perhaps she might resolve the future conflict between Yuu and Touko with the drama script she's writing.
Great to see the sensei's gf. Kinda made me think that she hadn't fully accepted her feelings and secretly came to cheer for her beloved one.
And yeah, Sayaka needs somebody else. I could even picture her bisexual somehow. But both Touko and Yuu are so wrong for her.

Very sweet chapter overall. The kiss was like honey. Yuu will start longing for these reaaally soon. And this manga becomes my favourite yuri story at the moment.

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takachi
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Wow. That new chapter. Just wow.

where did you get the raws?
so far I've only seen this: https://www.dcard.tw/f/acg/p/224845872

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Oh, the cuties are back! I could read this forever and still wouldn't get bored...

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My perception is Norae is bi, while Seola has been a closeted lesbian her whole life.
None of this was said directly in the story, but it's been quite heavily hinted, in my books at least.

takachi
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Wait, what, there gonna be more chapters? So my hopes for them to have a hot angsty sex are not totally pointless?
On the other hand I probably wouldn't want the romance story turned into slice of life or get to read yet another love triangle arc. So I really wonder what else is planned in the coming chapters. It's been good so far though, so I hope the author have the talent not to ruin it, for me.

takachi
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The story was actually very lovely. Wouldn't mind read an NSFW special though...

"I just had a sex friend". Wut?

sex with benefits

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I feel like I can sympathize with her roommate......

You lazy-ass xD... I'm joking, she's lazy and doesn't do any chores, but when Nanami needed her she was there giving her support :3 she's a good person and that's all that matters.

Besides, she's unbearably cute!

"She's an awful person but it's ok because she's pretty" can work in a story, but doesn't fly in real life. That said, Kaede isn't a terrible person. She's very supportive of Kazuki and at least somewhat aware of how her more immature/irresponsible tendencies get on Kazuki's nerves.

Well, I didn't really mean cute as merely pretty or beautiful. Rather kawaii, or, I don't know... moe? I think that includes the personality traits. And you said that yourself, Kaede isn't a terrible person either. Maybe she is terrible for some people, which is totally legit. But she's just as cute for others, because various people value different aspects of a person in others. And I think Kazuki really likes her in both, the looks and the personality. Or at least that's how I perceived it from the first chapter.
Not saying Kazuki is totally head over heels for Kaede, and isn't bothered by Kaede's laziness. I'm pretty sure we'll see a lot of small and a couple of big quarrels between the two just because of that. But if anything it will only make the bond between them stronger.
And I feel Kazuki needs to feel her superiority in being a "proper hardworking wife". And "lazy" Kaede gives her just that. I don't know if Kazuki realises this herself though, I think that's why they really need each other. They motivate each other to get "better".

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I feel like I can sympathize with her roommate......

You lazy-ass xD... I'm joking, she's lazy and doesn't do any chores, but when Nanami needed her she was there giving her support :3 she's a good person and that's all that matters.

Besides, she's unbearably cute!

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Oh that was a sweet read! I really liked Ohsawa-sensei's art. Subscribed!

May be it was too much laziness per human being with Kaede, but in the end she still took care of the laundry and finished her overnight work. And I've come to a conclusion that Kazuki-san, being such a workaholic, likes Kaede exactly because of this laziness. I think she's amused simply by observing how another person can live her life so differently compared to Kazuki's own habits, yet still stay happy and cheerful. Kazuki-san felt to me like a typical perfectionist, so having somebody by her side who's all chilled, relaxed, and lazy helps her to deal with small everyday failures she inevitable makes. I think they really are a good match.

LOL at "something or another" on page 9.

I'm not too aware about manga magazines in Japan - is "Monday" a reference to a real one or is it completely made up?

last edited at Aug 15, 2016 1:17PM

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Oh I actually kinda liked the last update. More misunderstandings, more drama coming - yaaaaay!

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Add the rest to that, "まだ半年も働いてないのに", and the straight translation becomes "Not [been] working [here] [for] even half a year yet". From the context, we know that Hinako is talking about herself, thus " [I] [have] not [been] working [here] [for] even half a year yet.", and turning that into more proper and fluid everyday English, we get, "I haven't even worked here half a year".

And no, that's not ambiguous. <.<

LOL, I totally agree actually! Please note the use of Perfect Simple in your fluid everyday example ;) Also note you skipped のに which links two sentences in Japanese and gives quite some context.

Out of curiosity, are all native speakers here British or American?

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The rant on ambiguity.
Yeah, guys, thanks a lot for the grammar lesson. Point is, you haven't even understood me. Point is, in the current phrase there's ambiguity. It partly comes from the placement of the adverb "even". More on that here, and here, for example. So in the written dialogue, I'd change the phrase to "I haven't been working here for even half a year" to set the focus on the duration rather than on what Hina hasn't been doing.

And partly it comes from the IMHO unnecessary use of perfect continuous. Both, the latter and perfect simple can obviously be used to describe an action that has started in the past and continues now. Perfect continuous however gives more focus on the process of the action itself rather than on the overall action duration.

For example, compare "I've been working here on project A for seven years." to "I've worked here on project B for seven years". The first one tells you that over the last 7 years I've been doing work, various tasks for project A. It really highlights and focuses on the action itself, on what it consists of in the scope of the given time duration, which lasts immediately from now on to some time in the past. The second one tells you that I've worked here on project B for seven years indeed, and I perhaps still, but not necessarily, work here. What's interesting is what I'm gonna do from now on, thanks to me doing this work till now. Besides, what's interesting is the duration of seven years itself, not much the related process attached to the now time. In fact, I might have worked for 3 years on project C afterwards, and on project D in parallel, but for sure I didn't spend more than 7 years working on project B.

I'm not sure if I express the differences correctly, and I don't really know how to do it better, but there's clearly quite a difference between the two tenses. Therefore, I think that "I haven't yet worked here for half a year, and I'll feel bad for the manager... but I'm going to quit" works a lot better. At the very least, this certainly resolves the ambiguity about the duration aspect and the now time. The possible time skip hypothesis simply cannot survive in this case, at all. It's not that today is March 2017, and Hina hasn't been working for her manager for the last 6 months for god only knows what reason, and you have to WTF how things come to this weird time skip, which doesn't make sense at all. It's that Hina has worked for her manager some time in the past for the overall duration of less than 6 months. It doesn't even matter that they are the very last 6 months. What matters is that those less than 6 months are not a long enough duration to get used to a workplace and colleagues, but Hina still feels attached to her manager and thus feels sorry to suddenly quit the job in August 2016. This ambiguity by the way is also not present in the original Japanese version thanks to 未だ and のに.

Oh, and thanks, you guys motivated me to find the manga on book walker and read the rest of the Volume 2 in Japanese.

PS
I'm sorry for jumping to wrong conclusions though and hurting the TL's feelings. I sure could've presented my original concern in less arrogant, more respectful and friendly manner. I'll try to keep it in mind in the future.

last edited at Aug 10, 2016 8:56PM

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@takachi
She means since she started working there, i.e. since chapter one.

I don't get it T__T Hina says, "I haven't even been working here for half a year." Or did she want to say that she didn't feel as if she was working over the last half a year because it was too much fun with Hana?

What's there to get? She just feels bad that she's quitting without having worked there for a long enough amount of time (6 months)
It means that in total, the amount of time she worked there is less than 6 months.
Obviously she's been working there for more than "half a month" man, lmao
The story started roughly around March I'd say, Hina haven't entered HS yet and the weather still being cold enough for Hana to wear the tanuki cosplay and feel at ease/warm.
Now they're thinking about their upcoming summer break, so probs around July, so I'm guessing that ever since Hina started working, approximately 3-4 months.
She does say less than half a year, not that 6 months have passed, that'd be way after summer break at that point

I see. Could be my Engrish, but I'd sure prefer it phrased as "I've started working here less than even half a year" as opposed to "I haven't even been working here for half a year". The latter makes me read it as "In the last six months I have been skipping work" or something like that. So together with a sudden scene and Hina's clothes change, I was totally WTFed: did Hina make a 6-month break from work after the summer break and then decided to quit completely, and it's a sudden time skip presented to the readers? It didn't make sense to me at all, but I was totally oblivious to the other way of reading the same phrase. Or may be I read too many mangas with time skips.

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@takachi
She means since she started working there, i.e. since chapter one.

I don't get it T__T Hina says, "I haven't even been working here for half a year." Or did she want to say that she didn't feel as if she was working over the last half a year because it was too much fun with Hana?

takachi
Their Story discussion 09 Aug 10:39
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veryimportantspoiler Qiu Tong's breasts are too big D: veryimportantspoiler

hahaha, this totally asks for the Big breasts tag once it is uploaded here.

oh, and the next logical action from SJ is obviously, "Hey, May I touch your boobies?"

last edited at Aug 9, 2016 10:39AM

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Wait, what? Half a year? Was that a time skip or a TL error? I guess Hina actually said half a month, right?

takachi
Their Story discussion 01 Aug 15:06
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Sure D:

Oh... they feel so soft... tickling ever so slightly :3

takachi
Their Story discussion 01 Aug 13:38
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Adorably prepared*

May I touch your eyelashes?

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Did Pu Yi cheat on his girlfriend? They look nothing alike in http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/sunshine_bright_stars_chapters_30_39#1 and http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/sunshine_bright_stars_chapters_30_39#31 . Ah Ming said that he was taken, before you actually see him in bed with that girl. If he broke up with her and had gotten with the new girl (the one you see at the filming scene), wouldn't the bandmates have known? Meaning that Bai Du could've had gotten a chance at pursuing him? Ah Ming was aware Bai Du liked Pu Yi so it's expected that she would inform her if that had happened. This is confusing...

If he changes girlfriends often, which is kinda implied considering that his true crush this whole time was on Ah Ming, then the bandmates might not even care or might not necessary be aware of Pu Yi's new girlfriends. Or, he breaks up with one girl because he has already started with another. Etc. I don't really see anything confusing.

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By the way, I think Bai Du has actually good intentions. She's worried and probably certain that her friend just got very confused because of youth, little experience, naivete, etc. Not saying that Bai Du does the right thing, but I'm pretty sure she doesn't want the MC to feel hurt.