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BugDevil
Image Comments 15 Jun 03:06
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joined Aug 26, 2018
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^That implies that Erica and Itsuki like each other as well, but that is not displayed here.

last edited at Jun 15, 2019 3:07AM

BugDevil
Image Comments 15 Jun 03:05
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018
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Yuri and Nemo are the only ones who don't bow to the queen... yet.

BugDevil
Image Comments 15 Jun 03:03
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018
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I too love wearing bathing suits made of won tic-tac-to games.

BugDevil
Image Comments 15 Jun 03:02
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018
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Yeah I only see one loli. And even she wouldnt count in her true Oni form.

BugDevil
Image Comments 15 Jun 03:01
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018
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I have a feeling that girl might be related to Spider-man.

BugDevil
Image Comments 15 Jun 02:58
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018
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Nana is a better dog anyway.

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

The story really has not made a single mention of her not understanding her feelings for a woman. She doesn't understand this excitement and feeling of love in general. Her uncertainty and confusion doesn't stem from the fact that she cheated with a woman, but rather that she has never felt this way about anyone.

And isn't that, given the manga's general tone of being about adult complexities and not shying away from unpleasant truths, kind of silly? It doesn't have to be the focus, but to have her experiencing this ennui in the face of societal expectations for marriage... and then to cheat with a woman and the woman's gender isn't looming particularly large on her mind... a pretty glaring bit of weirdness?

Well, let me draw a comparison to another very grounded and rather popular Yuri work here then: Bloom Into You/Yagate Kimi ni Naru.
Ayano's struggle here reminds me a lot of Koito Yuu (the protagonist) in YagaKimi, who did not understand what love is, what it feels like and had wrong impressions imprinted on her by culture and media about what a "normal romance" should be like. YagaKimi revolves around two girls getting into a relationship slowly, but it is not technically about lesbianism at all. The idea of love, loving someone and not comprehening those feelings stand on their own.

This story seems rather reminiscent of that. Ayano is overwhelmed by feeling these emotions for anyone. There is no reason to be overly concerned with gender, when she just had a much grander experience that defies her emotional understanding.

Let me put it this way... this story up to now could be the exact same if she cheated with a man instead and felt these emotions for him.

Lmao don't try to reason with BugDevil, she won't listen. It ain't her thing.

If she annoys you, just stop paying attention to her.

Ah and here is the known liar and cause for the entire "conflict". So good to see you still prefer your echo chamber.

last edited at Jun 15, 2019 6:25AM

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

May have also been like that, yes, but considering the age of the equipment, most likely still accidentally due to a lingering anomaly long after the lab was abandoned.

Likely the same anomaly Yuri!Marika used to perform the switch now, if the theories so far are true.

Yeah I seem to be in the minority with that idea haha

Hm, makes me wonder if the Yuri Government purposely interfered because they didnt want to spread the anti-male virus... or if they didn't want men to return period.
Which reminds me, if that virus really was that effective, wouldn't switching the Marikas lead to the impending apocalypse in Normal!world? Well, that would be the case whether they were switched as children or only now... Wonder if the author will even address that issue.

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

I've seen plenty of stories from the US with characters who'd find it unthinkable that they're not straight and then realize it's true. But, like... the creators of these works don't try to place these characters in worlds where no one has ever heard of a gay person, and that's kinda what it feels like this wife character lives in. The other character at least does seem to think of herself as gay, but the wife has a kind of obliviousness that I am pessimistic will ever really be discussed as part of this story.

I find this interpretation rather odd. The story really has not made a single mention of her not understanding her feelings for a woman. She doesn't understand this excitement and feeling of love in general. Her uncertainty and confusion doesn't stem from the fact that she cheated with a woman, but rather that she has never felt this way about anyone.
Clearly she is in a loveless "friendship marriage" with a man she really gets along with. But as she said, she has never had anyone she was in love with until the age of 30. And it apparently didn't change until now.

I know this is yuri and all, so there are some preconceived notions, but this is really not what the first two chapters were about at all.

last edited at Jun 14, 2019 5:51PM

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Something about experiments to create gates between worlds. The two either accidentally got mixed up in it and met in that place for a short time or they were purposely used for an experiment and then got their memories wiped.

While I do agree that the two Marikas may have been switched before, I doubt it was on purpose, at least if Lily is right and the lab is indeed a few decades old. Accidentally stumbling on an anomaly left in the area due to old experiments seems more likely in this case. I guess we'll see once we get the next bits of this chapter, though...

I actually didn't say that the Marikas got switched... I was just asserting that Normal!Marika and Yuri!Lily met that short time as children because of the experiments. Whether they were just in the area and got involved by accident or whether both or one of them was a test subject, I don't know.

I actually don't think the Marikas got switched. Maybe Yuri!Marika wasn't even involved in that flashback at all. Like I said, Lily talking to her about meeting when they didn't might have sparked her interest in the shrine/lab in the first place.

last edited at Jun 14, 2019 5:41PM

BugDevil
Image Comments 14 Jun 16:05
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018
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^I think you completely missed what's good about MHA and kinda looked for the wrong things in it.

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Hah! I was wondering about the two of them being long-lost childhood friends since the first chapter, and it looks like I was right! I'll bet that it was something to do with Lily that caused Marika to be obsessed with being "normal".

While I also assumed that Yuri!Lily was childhood friends with Yuri!Marika thanks to her very short flashback panel in the first few chapters (I think chapter 3?), this chapter actually opens up a new possibility as you say.

It could be that Yuri!Lily is actually childhood friends with Normal!Marika dun dun dun
Something about experiments to create gates between worlds. The two either accidentally got mixed up in it and met in that place for a short time or they were purposely used for an experiment and then got their memories wiped.

And perhaps Yuri!Lily then met Yuri!Marika, who of course wasn't like her counterpart and Lily's weird questions/stories made her aware of this entire world jumping thing in the first place.

...or I'm completely wrong.

last edited at Jun 14, 2019 3:19PM

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Is a "transparent" voice really a compliment...? Maybe that was supposed to be clear?

This page
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/whispering_you_a_love_song_ch03#18
sure was a mood whiplash for Kino. I didn't think she had any other modes aside from genki-go-lucky.

last edited at Jun 14, 2019 3:12PM

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Oh? Does that first page imply what I think it does? This really is getting interesting.

Also way to just slap my previous comment about them forgetting about the kiss back into my face. Strangely delayed and sudden reactions are becoming very common in this manga!

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

(psst you prob shouldn't accuse people of being passive-aggressive and then immediately say you'd report them to the mods if you weren't such a nice person)

You haven't dealt with @Fairypixie24 yet I see.

last edited at Jun 14, 2019 2:53PM

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

You know what else is realistic? Completely boring dead-end lives with nothing exciting ever happening.

Completely boring dead-end lives with nothing exciting ever happening. Glued to your monitor screen all day long. Joining forums out of tedium. Posting 3000+ messages, most of them freakishly large blocks of text, in 10 months. Dull, empty dead-end lives with absolutely nothing to do.

You're right, it would never make for good manga material.

You know the saddest part about this ill thought out passive-aggressive personal attack? You actually think you're being clever lol
You're lucky that I'm not the type you can get a rise out of with that nonsense. Otherwise I'd probably have bothered the mods by now. Take it easy, cuz not everyone is as nice as me~

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Actually, it feels quite realistic. And some readers here obviously don't like realism.

You know what else is realistic? Completely boring dead-end lives with nothing exciting ever happening.
Never conflate realistic with entertaining.

But alas, I have defended not reading this story enough. Enjoy the story ya'll. salutes

last edited at Jun 14, 2019 1:26PM

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

nooo cheating is soooo baaaad how could you enjoy this :(

people plz, no one in the world would say that cheating is a good thing, but a story is a story, and the main characters don't always have to be saints.

I never expect characters to be perfect morality apostles. That is a gross oversimplification of the issue.
There is simply no possible route for this story to take that would be enjoyable to me. That's all there is to it.

last edited at Jun 14, 2019 12:29PM

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Does fiction reflect reality or does reality copy fiction?

last edited at Jun 14, 2019 11:49AM

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

You and @matsuri_wins would make the greatest frienemies I feel.

I can't help feeling like I'm ruining a joke, but why? Does she have the same opinion on this topic or because we are at each other's throat sometimes or both? lol

Well... she has the exact opposite stance pretty much.
And your names are both Citrus references. Of two characters that couldn't be more opposite of each other.

So yeah, you murdered my joke. But it's still funny in the afterlife~

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Rushed into a "friendship marriage", never actually loved someone for real, finds someone new that captures her heart inexplicably... it's all pretty much as expected. I hate cheating and it's even worse when the husband's actually a good guy.

The art and wrting are actually rather comfortable, but I will have to bow out on this one. Even at it's best, this is just not my cup of tea.

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

"Crack". She hit that pole harder than a stripper in college!

This was pretty damn good lol

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

So it really was more believable in the Japanese text. It's still a very overdone cliche, but as long as the focus shifts to Yori trying to woo her airhead crush it's fine.

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

I suppose we should be thankful that she didn't break up with a text.

I saw a poll a while back that said a slight majority do this even though majority hate being broken up with that way.

It's in human nature to avoid painful confrontations. It's an emotionless and quick solution, almost painless if you manage to ghost them afterwards.

Some people cannot look another in the eye when they feel guilty or bad.

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Put a lesbian couple on front page of Bribe's magazine, since you can advertise 2 wedding dresses in the same shot? Smart!!

Excuse my French, but that is fucking brilliant.

last edited at Jun 13, 2019 11:10AM