I love these two idiots so much.

There's no way, after spending this much time together, going to classes, and all this other stuff, that Elsa doesn't recognise the name "Smollet" when she starts going to the school?

The use of "Lady Smollett" out loud around Elsa was a translation mistake and it will be changed/noted in future chapters. Originally, no one uses any part of Yvonne's name when referring to her. They always refer to her by a generic title. For example Linda always calls her "my lady" and the others call her something like "the young lady". So Elsa doesn't know her first name or what family she's from.

Apologies for the confusion.

Well that answers that question then, haha. I did notice that previously the ladies were calling her "my lady" or similar, I thought the teacher just wasn't on the same page and was throwing her name around everywhere.

This makes is more of a minor plothole than anything wrong with the actual story, but the prince wouldn't have turned up and never once used her name, lol.

Look, I need to preface this comment to say that I do love this arc. It's very cute, there's lots of smiles and closeness and encouragement... BUT ... it is kinda, ruining the already established story?
There's no way, after spending this much time together, going to classes, and all this other stuff, that Elsa doesn't recognise the name "Smollet" when she starts going to the school?
Unless,
1. The thing that Evie is changing in the timeline is that Elsa immediately remembers her and pursues her when they meet again (unlikely, because didn't the bracelet react to Evie trying to tell Elsa her name when they first met?)
or
2. Elsa gets her memories wiped. But, really specifically, like, only of Evie's name. She remembers the promise vividly and what Evie looks like, so this is kind of doubtful?

So ... has the author given up on making it all join up together? It's not that huge of an issue if they don't, plotholes schmotholes. But it is making the chapters less enjoyable as all this plays out in the back of my mind.

I'm 55 years old. I have never slapped anybody out of shock/surprise in my life. It's completely foreign to my way of thinking. I can't imagine doing so in that context unless I thought the other person was a genuine threat to my physical well-being.

I'm 35, I've accidentally slapped people twice in my life. Yes, it's not something I go to, but it really is a reaction of shock sometimes. I hated it, apologised profusely afterwards, and have always tried to control myself better.

Oh gosh, I nearly cried when she slapped her. What a thing to do, and with no conversation about it afterwards. This is all the steps back. I wouldn't be surprised if Kurumi doesn't come out of her room for a while now.

New girl, while hot, is really out of place. You have all of these normal 1800s anglo girls, and a witch in fetish wear named after a numetal band

It really suddenly felt like I was reading a totally different manga.
That, and a plot from somewhere. I don't want plot, I want romance and shenanigans.

Please tell me you noticed it was suspicious she didn't even try to break her fall, Rose. No normal person is like that, she was obviously purposely trying not to react.

Oh man, now I'm so, so disappointed we didn't get chapters and chapters of this dynamic.

Is it normal for the part where you have to suck it up and get over it re: unrequited love to be so melodramatic? Like damn it really isn't that big of a deal.

I'd just like to point out that anything that is the purpose of a story is big and melodramatic, because that's the point, lol.
No, it's not a huge deal in RL - though painful, and kids are prone to melodrama, but when the romance is your whole "world" as it is when it's a story, then losing your love is the end of the "world".
It's nice to be able to have some perspective like this, because if these were the main characters, we'd be so swept up in the story, we'd see this as a bigger deal than it actually is, lol.

I'm just distracted by the "I can't see the fireworks" plotline. Like ... Fireworks are in the sky. Especially if you're close to them, you're looking up

Once again I feel as if I'm reading an entirely different series than most posters here.

I also feel like you are. You're definitely reading a different comment section, at the very least. People aren't hugely invested in them fucking as you and Matsuri so indelicately put it just to be inflammatory. It's way more nuanced than that.

This was simultaneously the best and worst thing Ayaka could have done.
Good to see she's still socially inept even though she's getting involved with more people.

Look, sex isn't all a relationship is about, but intimacy kind of is? I'm not even siding with Matsuri about them being *really close sisters", they're basically just regular sisters who say they're in a relationship. Whatever they're doing with one another: supporting one another, or whatever. There's literally no reason they couldn't do that as sisters, so if they're not actually going to be in a romantic relationship, then why have the pretense of being in a romantic relationship?

I know it ends up in marriage and all, but until then, why exactly has Citrus come to the point of them being openly in a romantic relationship if they're ... just not gonna be? No holding hands, no intimate touches, no kissing, nothing. The only romantic thing about Citrus+ is if you think Mei always on Yuzu's back about breaking school rules is somehow romantic...

And to top it all off, it was already annoying before it was lampshaded here. If this was a comedy manga, that would be gold. But in a drama/romance, it just seems to be making fun of the readers for expecting something we're never going to see.

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The extra about surviving the handshake actually endeared the clearly suspicious new girl to me.

Oof. Speedrun to the confession.
Not mad, it seemed very natural, but it's disappointing that it couldn't be resolved. I'm glad they didn't just jump into everyone's in love and this is a happily ever after. This was very natural for a sudden ending.

Hmm... maybe that counts had something to do with the wolf attack. I hope we can get back to the present soon though, I want to see them kiss again XD

Hold your horses. We still have to see their "first" kiss before we can go back to the present ;)

Talk about meta-discussion: All these people indignant that anyone would dare say that Risa is nicer and they don't like Hiroko. I'm not sure what the problem is with this? It's a valid form of discussion of the story. The notion that a reader might like Risa better doesn't mean that's the only way this story should go. The love triangle is still a part of the story, and therefore still worthy of being discussed.
The MC can get into a relationship with someone the readers disapprove of, and it's okay for the readers to disapprove of it, so I don't get this need to jump on anyone who expresses that sentiment.

Guess this is par for the weird Dynasty discussions course though. Sometimes people get hung up on the weirdest things. You'd think it'd be Team Risa who were upset because the story is already set, but it's actually Team Hiroko that are upset that other commenters think she's trash.

I feel for Risa however she's doing what Ayaka is doing but much worse. At least Hiroko likes Ayaka and is only avoiding her because of a desire to remain closeted at work. Ayaka has point blank said she's not really interested and has never shown a hint of going back on that, or even considering it further. Risa can find another great woman from the bar, honestly. They hounded her last time and are also lovely. Otherwise she's unfortunately setting herself up for failure, unless something drastic happens or she's just someone Ayaka settles for after giving up on Hiroko. I'd rather she avoid that.

Lol. What?
I mean, we can see Hiroko's thoughts, but Ayaka and everyone else in the story cannot.
From the perspective from everyone but us omniscient viewers, Hiroko has no interest in Ayaka, and that makes Ayaka and Risa exactly the same, not Risa worse.
Also, Ayaka didn't say "no, I'm not attracted to you", she just likes someone else. Weirdly enough, people can change...

Anw, I've come to the conclusion that this is a comedy series and shouldn't be taken seriously.

This opinion makes me think you've never seen an action movie.
Or a comedy movie, for that matter.
One amusing misunderstanding doesn't make the whole thing a comedy.

From what Sena said, I wouldn't be surprised if her breakup with Makino's sister was over having to pretend to be a man in front of their family and/or her sister's shame in being unable to introduce Sena as a woman/girlfriend.

What was her name...? Reina. I'll try to remember it.

No doubt about it, all the conventions and the way it's set up this is definitely the case. Sena is definitely sad and fed up with Reina pretending when she'd rather be open about it.

I can doubt. Why would the sis not have any idea why Sena broke up with her if she had been vocal about her displeasure about it?
Not to mention, that meeting with the parents was a while ago by now? Things seemed to be going okay afterwards, Makino got a lot of blackmail money.

Oof. That was a hella cruel thing to say, Sena.

I'm guessing there was some kind of misunderstanding there, but still. Oof.

I don't think there was anything "hidden" about those blushes, lol.

So essentially what your saying is my crude assessment was basically right? Sigh. Oh well the story is good so far. I can pretty much pretend it's a normal yuri story as long as it leaves the whole bizarre sex anatomy in the abstract.

Me after reading the latest chapter : Damnit past me why couldn't you keep your big mouth shut?!

Bahaha. I'm cool with the some people being irresistible to one another, maybe against their will kind of story, but that pheromone... cloud being forced out was a bit far.

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At the bit about cold baths in the winter making kids sick, I was like ... don't they have this thing called "fire" that's pretty good at heating water, at least a little bit?

Probably not, if their conditions are anything like real world medieval ages. Heated baths in tubs, as opposed to washing out of a basin, were for the nobility, and limited resources means fuel and hot water could go to what would seem like better uses. The other point in the chapter is that the people in this world don't have Yvonne's modern understanding of cleanliness and knowledge of what causes diseases

Yes, and that's why you wouldn't ... have a bath in cold water in the middle of winter. You'd use a basin and a cloth. Or, you would attempt to heat the water with whatever resources you had.

Speaking of my re-reading, I also re-read this forum for what people thought of each chapter, and I will say, the comments from the first two chapters Rio appeared in mostly end up becoming hilarious in retrospect

People always get mad at new characters because they assume they know exactly what will happen.
Despite the fact that they're rarely correct about what will happen, I find it crazy that people in general are so opposed to plot happening.