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Personally I prefer the phrasing of it being Momoka is just a guy with two girlfriends. Pseudo incest it just not my jam but I won't yuck yalls yum.
The foreword gave a fair warning: "for those who are fine with anything"
The lone wolf professional and the annoyingly carefree busybody she can't get rid of is a good dynamic; hard to go wrong with it. I'm not crazy for the character designs but otherwise the drawings are high quality. I enjoy the concept of places cursed through malevolent design; it's something that comes up in Otherside Picnic too.
so… is this an endorsement?
Yes, you should read it. I'm jealous of first timers who can binge read the series up to this point
That campfire flashback makes it look like Iro fancied Aino? Like it's been clear that Iro loves Aino the most in the world, just not how she loves her specifically. I don't really expect the series to answer that, I just can't help but wonder
Maybe it worked better as a novel but I feel like it was a bit rushed as a manga.
Yeah but they don't want to. They're throwing away their bad old lives to build a new happy one together, that's unreservedly a happy ending
It's two people running away who-knows-where, urged on by a sudden wave of euphoria, after one of them tried to literally hang herself. The amount of happiness being dispensed here seems pretty conservative to me. Which is fine! I think trying to lock down the ending to unambiguously happy does it a disservice.
Very hopeful ending. No need to see where they go.
I accept and appreciate the creative decision to end it here, but I do wonder what happened after this. This woman just tried to kill herself and explained her previous plan to go on a trip to a random destination and then kill herself, and the very next thing she does is go on a trip to a random destination because the woman who saved her offers to accompany her. Sure, Yunimaru's offer to tag along can be read as her giving Konno a chance to blow off some steam while keeping her safe, but the story does not actually spell out that the trip to nowhere does not end in suicide. An optimistic mood is signaled in flower language like the color of the sky, but I believe "is Konno planning to attempt again on the trip" is a question with a bit more weight than e.g. "will they get a cat or a dog when they move in together", and not answering it in a straightforward way is the story intentionally leaving a thorn under the reader's skin.
I, for one, I'm slightly disappointed, I think this ended up way less interesting that I thought it would be at the beginning. The story turned out to be very simple - Konno was suicidal because she was lonely, and no one cared about her. Someone finally does, things got better, the end :P The revelation that Yunimaru was essentially picked at random is a bit surprising, but doesn't change a whole lot looking at the story in retrospect. Nothing wrong with simple stories, but I feel like the authors tried their hardest to tell this is in the most roundabout way possible, I guess I just expected something more. It was okay :P
I'm not confident in assuming Konno is better. Nobody is fine fifteen minutes after a suicide attempt, and considering the issues concerning Konno specifically (most of which remain unresolved), putting her being suicidal in past tense is also overly optimistic. (As much as I enjoy how thirsty Konno sounds in her narration in the extra chapter, she doesn't exactly sound stable.) I also would not assume Yunimaru is fine; desperately promising Konno anything to stop her made sense as an emergency response of sorts, but being responsible for sustaining another person's will to live would put a lot of pressure on her. Maybe taking a trip together can stabilize both of them, but we never get to see the trip itself, much less the end result.
last edited at Jan 27, 2025 2:35PM
Very nice character design, yet another banger from Amazaki Suika-sensei
so suguru geto coded... lol
the people yearn for hot nurse Geto
the people yearn for JJK but all the guys are women too (I'm the people)
Surely the emergence of the suicidal yuri microgenre -at least one new series every year- is just the result of the continued proliferation of the genre, and is not a portent of things to come
Yet another banger from Amazaki Suika. Yuri was not part of the assignment but this story still contrasts the main pair's unlikely friendship against the het brainrot and misogyny of their normie coworkers. And uh, whatever that tension was all about in the makeup scene.
Himari ships Aki and Shiho so hard that beyond the goofy shenanigans and the "she's just like us" vibe I find it not just sweet but also a little fascinating. I'm not totally sure why.
Oh no, I went back to compare the scenes, and you're right! I guess Terra is the older of the two and Diode does not have a legendary ex-wife that Terra could feel a pressure to live up to, but on the other hand Sivi had years to work up her courage...
Terra is quite bold in this scene nonetheless, surprising even herself. Unlike the marriage candidates, the girl she's only known for a few days gave her a taste of success, made her feel proud of her own decompa skills, so she feels comfortable enough to let herself 'decompress' emotionally as well. It is lovely indeed.
The Endeavour clan seems culturally analogous to the US, not just because of the names and the gun culture. Before the fishing duel, Xeon professed a reverence for personal freedoms within reason, and 'their women' do technically get a much wider choice in their profession compared to the other clans. (We're told Gendo basically exports their girls to the other clans after a mandatory decompa training, and in the novel version Diode tells Terra about how she was treated by two other clans she visited before she found Terra.) This still ends up working as a more gentle flavor of the same repression of women's autonomy, as kinseijoshi explained above.
The conversation in the W.E.B. in chapter 4 was so good! Here, Terra gets almost completely looped into Diode's misadventures before they met, so I wonder when that will happen in the manga version. Knowing more about what Diode has been through makes the argument and fishing duel with Xeon feel even more important.
And wow, Terra hugging Diode when she was crying, and later before their second trip noting that even climbing into the boat with Diode feels so much better than it has with anyone else? I suspect Diode fancies Terra too and is aware of it, but if only she knew how Terra sees her...
last edited at Jan 18, 2025 7:58PM
I just finished chapter 2, and I regret putting it off until now. This is a remarkably different experience from the manga (more so than what I'd call typical between a light novel and its manga adaptation), and visualizing the quirkier elements like the clouds, fish schools and net shapes was a challenge, but it's getting easier.
The translation of certain terms being different from Suimasen's version took some getting used to; otherwise the quality is very impressive! Thank you so much for taking on this project!
Some random impressions up to this point:
Mora (Terra's aunt) groping Terra that one time is made a little less bizarre (though not less weird) by the fact that she is really drunk. Maybe that's also why she is less resistant to Diode's proposal than she is in the manga version?
Not having any visual reference point from the manga was especially challenging when reading the prologue. The ending where Magiri dives into the abyss based on the theory that the gloomfish are shaped like fish because of Eda's influence, caught me totally off-guard. It's a very different mood from the bulk of the story, almost like a dip into sci-fi horror akin to the video game Soma.
Terra is implied to be gay from the start in the manga version too, but it's more 'high definition' here, if that makes sense. It's not just the switch to prose which necessarily has her linger on Diode's appearance more, but things like the incandescent blushing ear to ear at Diode's proposal, and the yelp she lets out when Diode grabs her hand, seem to be exclusive to this version. I hope to see more of this.
last edited at Jan 18, 2025 3:51PM
Alternative interpretation: Wakaba follows the philosophy of Michelle Obama: "When they go low, we go high." She doesn't want to pick a battle she could win by default because she is proud and prefers to win 'fair and square', even if Komaki doesn't care about being fair to her. Wakaba is a liberal </3
The only thing worse than a situationship is a one-sided situationship
Alice has been skulking around on her own since the last chapter, so I kept expecting her to get in trouble, and then during the walk to be possessed by the miasma, and then... Nah, she just dislikes the main character lol
Was it really a love song? or was the bully guy just saying that? To be honest I think we should have had some sort of internal monologue about sexuality or them wondering if the feelings are romantic. Even Aya doesn't seem to have given it that much thought she was like "oh my crush is a girl, well okay" but hasn't made a move and neither has she exactly been in denial either. But at least with Aya it seems to read as though she doesn't want to ruin the friendship, as for Mitsuki... I'm not sure what she's thinking at all. I mean are teenagers in Japan already so comfortable in their sexuality that they kinda take it for granted that something is romantic without talking about it? lol not even a "do you like girls?"
So, Japanese culture is by a wide margin the most intrinsically passive aggressive culture I have ever interacted with. The typical way you say something is "bad" is to say "That's a little..." and just literally trail off without saying it. As a general rule, they do not confront issues head on. So a lot of yuri manga doesn't confront the idea of homosexuality head on. The women just love each other, and their preferences aren't usually explicitly addressed because Japan in general isn't very hot on explicitly doing anything. I don't know if this also permeates into LGBT social circles in japan, or if it's just an anime/manga thing. It could just be that it's about anime authors not wanting to alienate potential readers by being too direct about their subject matter, or it could be that many people in japan just don't voice their preferences in a direct way very often. (If anybody knows more on this I'd be interested to hear it.)
This observation seems kind of limited to the yuri manga of the 2010s and 20s; after all the ol' reliable "but we're both girls" trope that everyone loves complaining about (and isn't nearly as common today as its opposite: "we're both girls so it's fine") is a confrontation with homosexuality. The Class S literature from the Taisho era (the predecessor of the yuri genre) had to 'balance out' depiction of attraction/romance between girls with tragic endings, which I'd also call pretty direct.
But even in the yuri manga of these days, the topic of lesbianism and queerness is not actually a taboo across the board; the level of openness runs a wide gamut. There is a branch of yuri where the same-sex nature of the relationship is so trivial as to be dodged completely - this especially applies to "404: men not found" and a lot of laid-back slife-of-life works. And the kind of works where concepts like 'LGBT' and specific identity labels are discussed at length (like they are in TsukuTabe) are rare. But there's a lot that lies somewhere between. For example, by filtering for lead or key supporting characters who are noted to be lesbian or attracted only to girls, there are quite a few series that have been adapted to anime: Sweet Blue Flowers, Whispered Words, Kase-san, Bloom into You (Sayaka), Otherside Picnic, Yuri Is My Job (Nene), MagiRevo, WataOshi, The Moon on a Rainy Night (upcoming). And these are just the tip of the iceberg. A more direct approach to the subject is especially common in series with adult leads or a historical setting.
The teddy bear might just be a reference to the Care Bears but the way the claw machine grabs it when Sumie is controlling it, two claws under the heart... Well, maybe it doesn't mean anything.
Maybe there's a way to make this boy less obnoxious by separating him from the other two mini losers? Though I don't know if that kind of thing would fit into the plot structure of this series. Or Chiyo could ask Koharu to find the girl a better match but then the time spent introducing curry boy would go to waste.
When you make your bestie smile #bestfeelingintheworld
Maybe I've missed something but this didn't feel like a yuri story. There was no indication she loved her friend in a romantic way. She just said she feels safe with her around all the toxic men in her life. Maybe it could've become yuri but what we were given doesn't suggest it ends with them together.
I have the same feeling, and I feel the same way about calling her Bi. I don't see much there. It's a sweet story, though and I can assume the author must have meant it as yuri but it's not there on the page, while her het stuff is certainly all over the place..
Exactly. It gives more of a "when you're down and in trouble it's good to depend on those who care for you" kind of vibe. Suggesting she should date her friend just because she was the only one she had a good relationship, despite not having any feelings for her prior, wouldn't be something I suggest someone should do.
I would have normally said maybe we're assuming their sexualities based on the author's history but this author has written a lot of Het and that also goes for their currently running series. So, it's mixed. I think at best the author is using an old-school version of yuri (girls interacting, not necessarily romantic, subtlety, ambiguity, etc.). Anything else is not really in the story itself. Interesting read anyway.
I think this work passes a broader, descriptive/additive definition of yuri, in that the F/F relationship is at its center, said relationship is emotionally charged, and while a rival F/M relationship exists it ultimately "loses". I would normally not try to argue against tagging it as subtext, but in this case the creator did tag it as yuri in the release post, and since I see no indication they did so in bad faith I'm inclined to take it at face value.
When categorizing works, I think it's more helpful to think of yuri as a process, instead of a certain relationship milestone being cleared, proof of a certain sexual orientation, or a seal of approval of the relationship as healthy and sustainable. Did Madoka and Homura fail to 'become' yuri -in the eyes of fans- just because Homura is allegedly abusive and they are not officially dating (at the time of this writing)? Should book stores not categorize A Monster Wants to Eat Me as yuri just because the central relationship is based on not explicit romantic feelings but hunger and death wish? There are many great stories that are generally accepted as yuri, where the relationship is not explicitly romantic but still stretches beyond the limits of "friendship between girls/women" as it is usually depicted in hetero media.
Just for fun, I also want to look at the ways this oneshot is consistent with the usual workings of yuri manga. The two girls are introduced as a pair of opposites. They interact on more than half the total pages (I counted about 17), but to call it mere interaction sells it short. Time seems to slow down when Kurihara is with Suwada; the scenes where she's with other people are more brief and to the point. And their shared scenes form an arc where the distance between the two is gradually closed both physically and emotionally.
In the first act, they speak somewhat formally, always standing at least a foot apart, and Kurihara looks away when Suwada notices her staring. In the second act, when Suwada confronts Kurihara full of concern, she now catches her hand, and Kurihara tries to get Suwada to back off by invading her personal space. In the third act, Suwada distracts Kurihara's attacker and leads her away by her hand. They keep running together bathed in the lights of the city as Suwada desperately tries to get through to Kurihara, and they only let go of each other's hand when they stop to catch their breath. For a moment the two look each other in the eye, faces red and still out of breath, and their hearts are still beating fast when they finally embrace. (That entire third act sounds like a checklist of yuri -and generally romance- tropes.) Through the whole story some kind of tension keeps brewing between the pair, bubbling to the surface in the third act, and it's only resolved somewhat when they share that hug. The exact the nature of each girl's feelings may be left unclear, but the framing of their interactions is romantic to the max.
And during this time they are not quite friends but just classmates. Suwada was so worried for a classmate who -as far as she knows- hates her that she went looking for her downtown at night. Her feelings seem to go beyond concern, and are kind of contradictory. She is frustrated, but she can't hate this girl who always blows her off and won't look her in the eye, and she doesn't know why she can't hate her. (Kurihara's feelings are similarly messy, as she finally lets Suwada comfort her despite still being conscious of them being "opposites".) That kind of 'irrationality' has a romantic charge in fiction (and often in real life).
Honestly I can totally see them as an adorable couple in the future, when Kurihara's situation is more stable and she has at least a few friends to lean on. With Suwada's backing she's bound to find some friends at school. Suwada being Kurihara's savior of sorts is not a reason for them to be together, but if they're still drawn to each other long after the storm has passed and they stand on equal grounds, I don't see a problem.
last edited at Jan 5, 2025 8:32PM
Maybe not. They could try ending it at Chapter 14, right before the training camp.
That would mean the anime would only adapt three volumes in one season. Most TV anime adapted from manga usually cover 4-5 volumes of the source material. So the adaptation 'could' end at chapter 14 but the pacing would be downright soporific considering the already leisurely pace of the manga.
I'm more than a little concerned about how [ending the anime on the reveal that the titular monster does not want to eat the protagonist] will be received by first timers
Why? o_O
Because without everything that follows up this twist in the manga it seems like an unsatisfying end to a story. Most anime adapted from a yuri manga suffer from the no-second-season-curse, and in this case the source story reaches it's central twist right where the first season of the anime is likely to end.
I actually wanted to know if this series has released a new chapter?
The series currently has a total of 6 chapters and 1 volume listed by its magazine Hero's. It has been on hiatus since March 2024.
See the announcement here: https://twitter.com/heros_1101/status/1766030097583325621
It's crazy that the anime adaptation will probably end on the reveal that the titular monster does not want to eat the protagonist. I'm more than a little concerned about how that will be received by first timers
last edited at Jan 1, 2025 4:09PM
