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you are forgetting Sungji's face in ch83,84.. she saw, heard and knew things.. to a point that she got drunk for the first time ever and during the night she kept asking Sumin why she liked her in the first place.
I dont forget that. It emphasizes how greatly Sungji's misunderstanding could be, with all the things she has seen, felt, and heard.
- we will hear Sungji's mind but not necessarily directly to Sumin.. maybe she would talk to Dawoon about it.. (if it is indeed Dawoon who appeared in the wedding)
Sure, we will, if we didnt see Sungji's mind for next 2 chaps, I'll burn TG's house for ruining one character without explanation
- In explaining to Sumin what's up.. Sungji knows that Sumin would run, deny and apologise .. give her some more affection out of guilt before Sungji could see Seju again in her eyes.
No, if Sungji indeed gives Sumin a piece of her mind of not running away from her feelings, simple "TL nim, this time, le'ts not running away from your feelings longer, I will give you a break for you to think things through and decide. Whatever outcome would be, I'll accept it"
- should Sungji really tell Sumin how "Sumin" really feels and how she treated Sungji .. or is it for Sumin to understand?
No, what I want to say is Sungji to tell Sumin what her problems really are, not about Sungji herself but about Sumin herself, how she hasnt properly done with her feelings just yet and she needs to work on it.
But not by running away without explanation and by telling Sumin to know what kind of problems lie. Right now, instead of giving Sumin that, she is giving Sumin a hell of pain for losing a person she loves without knowing a reason and can not think of anything else other than that.
Can you understand that? That right now, instead of giving Sumin time to sort her feelings out, she is giving Sumin misery and pain for losing a person without knowing reasons. Sumin is not sorting her feelings out, she only focuses on 1 feeling only, pain and misery.
- Does Sungji want to give Sumin another chance? didn't she already give her in ch67? how did that turn out ?
Then tell her that XDDD, not running away. Like I said, after this chap, I dont support this couple, but I can see the couple is the ending couple by giving Sumin the third chance. No, I'm sorry, I'm wrong, its not Sungji giving Sumin the third chance, it should be Sumin giving Sungji the second chance to redeem herself.
- Does Sungji need an apology.. an excuse ? a promise.. or an explanation ??
No, that's why she should tell Sumin that. Dont you understand? That she needs to tell Sumin that I dont need any excuses or promises, I need something else and you should prove that.
This is sth Sungji needs to tell Sumin. For the very least, before she left for whatever reason and if she is gonna back or not.
The decision is hers to make, no matter what kind of excuses Sumin makes, if she wants to leave, no one could stop her. so it doesnt hurt to say her mind before leaving.
- why does she need to talk to Sumin about it.. what would Sumin say, or do.. its been a cycle.. what I wanted you to see is this, this is where Sungji got the honest answer to her question: http://i.imgur.com/tkP3hfp.png
Its not about what Sumin says or does, it's about what Sungji is going to says. The important part is what Sungji says. What Sungji says would stop Sumin from all the excuses and all.
Sumin doesn't need what's fair.. she needs honesty with herself.. it is not Sungji's place to tell her what "Sumin" feels.
Yes, and do you really think that leaving her like this could make her honest with herself? Again, can you understand that? That right now, instead of giving Sumin time to sort her feelings out, she is giving Sumin misery and pain for losing a person without knowing reasons. Sumin is not sorting her feelings out, she only focuses on 1 feeling only, pain and misery.
Now, Sumin said she tried hard as this was her last trial to make it work.. and Sungji's character was so helpful to succeed this time.. why did it fail then? THIS is what Sumin has to figure herself.
And with all the pain she is enduring, Sungji will be the answer and Sumin needs to run after Sungji, that's why I said the ending is SuminxSungji, but I hate it, for all the reasons above.
We, the readers.. may also get what was going on but as I said, maybe not in a talk between Sumin and Sungji
Maybe, but for me, Sungji leaving this way is definitely helping only one couple, and its not for Seju.
last edited at Aug 28, 2017 10:26PM
Who knows, the person she wants to see can be Seju. lol
I thought about that, but Sumin still wonders why Sungji left. She even thought about Sungji with the toothbrushes.
Her wanting to see Seju might come after the talk with Sungji.
But Seju leaving is more memorable.
For us, readers, Seju leaving is more memorable, but for Sumin herself, Sungji leaving is more memorable, lol.
yoonie
of course not, she showed up in ch71 driving a McLaren P1, the most expensive car among the other parked cars.. one of them was an Audi R8 XDDD .. a fraction of Ferrari's 458, Aventador or P1 price. XDDDa Dragon maybe XDDD
All jokes aside, I just hope I could see her in the remaining two chaps. It seems her parts has done.
But well, from the timeline, she might go back to Seoul next chap anyway.
Ah, btw, I know that there is a big chance I'm going to win the bet but please dont put up the avatar of SuminxSungji couple on your ava. I cant stand that couple anymore, I mean it.
last edited at Aug 28, 2017 9:44PM
I can't see Sumin going to that wedding if it is a wedding we see Sungji on the last panel. I'm still not buying it. It's Sungji who left, she should be the one to come and explain why. Besides, Sumin doesn't look like she's in shape too go anywhere.
Its a wedding, the typical reception and the door for every wedding I've seen in pictures and movies in Korea.
For someone who is desperate to see Sungji and with all unanswered questions, it's no surprise that Sumin will look for Sungji to reconcile and back as a couple
I would like first to share with you the original translation of some parts in the previous chapter.
- Sungji tells Sumin about Seju:" I know you are concerned" , Sumin assures her, but later we know that Sumin still not over Seju.
- Sungji again asks Sumin at the cafe: " is it over between you and Ms. Baek.." but Sumin's expression is truer than her words. http://imgur.com/a/eckkA
Sungji got the answer to all of her left questions.
No, from the way this translation did, it seems Sungji has misunderstood Sumin's reaction later on in the talk at the coffee shop, rather than having all her questions answered. She thought Sumin and Seju are not over yet and underestimate Sumin's feelings for her, hence she left but without words.
I've already said the last chap, no matter how people analyse, Sungji leaving without words will ruin her character in me. And I'll go full force for why I would think that XD.
Why did Sungji just leave without a word?
If I would think about it from Sungji's view point.. what's the point of discussing this with Sumin?
For Sumin to understand Sungji's own pov. What else? And even so, even she doesnt want to explain. A simple, "lets break up", "you did nothing wrong, but this just doesnt work out", would be nice.
Singling out one incident and overshadowing the real issue ?? that Sumin is never over Seju and that Sungji always feels that Sumin thinks about her the whole time. Or to give Sumin a chance to explain and give excuses ? what if Sungji really does not need excuses any longer, or Sumin's guilt towards her any longer.
The one who could decide is Sungji. When Sungji has decided, who could stop her from leaving? No matter what kind of excuses Sumin made or reasons Sumin cites.
And isnt this better? Letting Sumin cite all kind of excuses and reasons then Sungji turned off all of them in front of Sumin, giving her explanation and talk to her? Telling her why all of her excuses are not going to work this time around because it is different.
So with your view, its still not justified with Sungji leaving without words and leaving Sumin vulnerable
What is fair is that Sungji should have talked Sumin out about it.. but is fair what she really needs ?
Its not for her then do it for Sumin, the one she has said "Oh, I wont let the person I love get hurt anymore"
- Sumin did the fair thing.. staying with Sungji, but the guilty Sumin is not what Sungji needed.
Then tell Sumin that and leave, tell her that I dont want guilt, I want your love then leave.
- What's fair to Sumin, is Sungji explaining what Sumin did her wrong.. but in that.. you don't allow the other person "Sumin" to think about it widely instead of singling out one incident and hear worn-out excuses. We will hear Sungji's mind.. but maybe not directly to Sumin.
No, in order of telling Sumin the reasons she leaves, she would let Sumin rethink of the situation, from her feelings to Sungji and to Seju, so that Sumin could freely decide where her heart really lies.
Right now, Sungji has terminated all that "you allow the other person "Sumin" to think about it widely", because the Sumin right now is only thinking of what she has done wrong for Sungji to leave, for all the guilt, all the regret for solely Sungji, not anyone else.
Sungji has left Sumin only thinking of all the guilt and regret with pain. This is not widening her view to decide, it narrows her view to only Sungji and all the pain for being left hanging without understand the situation.
what's in this chapter between Sumin and Seju?
in the last 10 years.. Seju always saw the opportunity in taking the broken Sumin back.. Sumin who was never able to move on as well, look at ch64 http://imgur.com/a/ukJ10
Seju will no longer exploit Sumin's need to be loved or for rebound.. she no longer wants her for her guilt: http://imgur.com/a/afcRz
no longer helds her for their past.. http://imgur.com/a/rzctL
Its different, of course, because this time, its Seju who decided to leave, not Sumin. But that also means, no more of them, unless miracle happens.
This is something,
If the couple has unfinished business, there is a chance for that couple to be together again, because of all the questions and what-ifs. So for the two couples, one couple has it, that will be the ending couple
Sumin and Sungji, with the way Sungji left, they has that unfinished business and that's why, they will have their ending as a couple, and when the author chose that way for Sungji, it means clearly what couple they want to be the end
Seju and Sumin, there is none, so the chance of them backing together is almost zero
last edited at Aug 28, 2017 9:36PM
My theory is right afterall, after depression comes acceptance. Seju finally able to move on, she is a strong girl to be admired.
She was not admirable before? She has always been admirable. My Seju is always awesome, looooolllllll
Just joking, she really did well this chap. I admire her for the decision she makes, especially the last word "I love you", she left not because she moves on with her feeling, she left because of Sumin
This third wheel is really the best among all third wheels
Sumin.... what can I say more, karma is a bitch. Feel sorry because even after all this, many still blame her only and praise highly on sungji action. Really? Innocent or not, if you kill people, you has killed people. Her disappearing act has no excuse, she could end it better. I doubt I want to see sumin and sungji together after this.... to many reasons against it.
SuminxSungji ending is the worst ending to me ever now, for thousand of reasons no related to Seju at all.
Sungji... finally she got what she want in early chapters, sumin only thinking of her.
Good for her then, lol.
last edited at Aug 28, 2017 11:59AM
Hmm, what kind of car branch she hasnt driven yet? Hmmm, just in case I prepared for her grand final appearance of the story
Audi R8?
Sumin.lol
LOOOOOOOLLLLLLL. THE BEST!!!
Well, she kinda did and kinda didn't. So even though I say she did, I can't say she did it wilingly. It's complicated.
Lol, she did it willingly though, lol.
Gotta sleep but before it
- I would never support SuminxSungji again even though they will be the ending couple. I dont hate Sungji but I despise this couple and how Sungji left Sumin broken without a word and explaination. This couple is not how I see it as a healing couple. Its far from healing, too far from healing. So I dont support it anymore, no more.
- Seju - the best. She has left with emotional but awesome way. She left but truly live on the words Sungji said, not like someone who actually said those words but did the opposite. I love the way she leaves the manhwa and letting go. Selfish turns selfless for those words who said them but couldnt even do it better than her. She deserves happiness, Seju deserves it.
- Sungji doesnt deserve happiness with Sumin though, no matter how TG redeems her in remain 2 chaps, its better she moves on with someone else.
last edited at Aug 28, 2017 11:51AM
Dammit Seju:
Mercedes AMG
McLaren P1
Lamborghini Aventador
Ferrari 458the girl has a great taste.. but my all times favorite was the Aston Martin Vanquish she bought Sumin
Seju vs. Jay Leno !! XD
Hmm, what kind of car branch she hasnt driven yet? Hmmm, just in case I prepared for her grand final appearance of the story
Audi R8?
Sumin finally bought a TV.
The answer of how to pass time... watching tv!
How can a girl survive without trying to make money, I have no idea, lolll.
See! We aren't that delusional after all. Lol
Recently, Taeyeon has become too feminist for my liking. Blame the stylist but her old style is literally a real life walking Sumin, lolll.
Seju becomes the best third wheel fictional character I've ever read so far lol. In case there is no twist.
There would be no more twist for her character, dont worry and I'm doubting that we could ever see her again in remaining two chaps, but Seju rocks her role, literally.
I pray so hard that we wont see a scene of Seju somewhere and the end, lollll. I WANT TO SEE HER HAPPY WITH SOMEONE, lolllll.
last edited at Aug 28, 2017 11:33AM
yoonie0104
I guess in Sungji leaving Sumin without a word is also an opportunity for Sumin to figure out things on her own instead of focusing on a single reason on why it happened. It was not only because Sumin took Sungji for granted .. maybeeee that's why Sungji just left Sumin for a while to think it through. Whether they will talk again, of course they will do. I even suspect seeing either Dawoon or Sumin at the wedding. But mostly Dawoon.
I also think that its Dawoon, they are friends since childhood after all but Sumin also knows the wedding date and place so who knows, but either one of them, for sure.
But for the first time in this manhwa, I see Seju better than Sungji. For the first time, Seju is really something more than just behind Sungji in everything.
High five here.
OMGGGGG, this is the first time we agree on sth, OMGGGGGGGG
it's not about the bet anymore.. but this is what I rooted for, breaking of the wheel.
Seju will no longer be a rebound girl.. NEVER again. She left gracefully
Well, she left for another country, just like we predicted but well, I dont see Seju and Sumin's scenes anymore. It stops here, now =)))))
The remaining 2 chaps would probably be about Sungji and Sumin to get back together, lol
But for the first time in this manhwa, I see Seju better than Sungji. For the first time, Seju is really something more than just behind Sungji in everything.
but you know.. at the grocery store the two girls thought that Sumin is just a student who can't even afford ramen XDDD
I might sound like Vanbun in this comment but that scene reminds me of Girls Generation Taeyeon. She is famous for her baby face who looks like kid sometimes.
wow
the thread is moving really fast..am I the only one satisfied with this chapter XD
I loved ittttt .. this is what I wanted all along.. Seju not seizing the opportunity to accept the broken Sumin back !
LOL, you still believe in winning the bet? LOLLLLLLL
OK, I admire your determination but at this moment, the determination has become too much, LOLLLL
But, Nora, Seju rocks this chap. Totally rocks, lolll
I have an idea it might be Seju calling Sungji at the very end. And I'm not sure if it's a wedding. Why crowded corridors, reception and lifts? It looks more like some kind of company, just not the one she used to work in. Or a hotel? If it's a hotel, it could be a wedding. But why a hotel, lol. Don't they have some kind of shrines to do it?
You sure love to compare to the past to prove that Sumin is in her most despaired state, lollll.
Come on, of course, its different, last time its Sumin's fault, she has cheated with Seju, she had to live with that. This time, she is trying her best to redeem herself, and this time she doesnt know what she did wrong. Come on, it has to be worse than the last time.
But its not about who she loves more, its just about timing with cause and effects, lolll
Agree, she had to see Sumin completely broken over Sungji, even more than after Sungji broke up with her the first time to let go and vanish from her life for good. But it's a very cruel way to "win". No one should suffer this much
Seju didnt leave because seeing Sumin broken because of Sungji, lollll, she just leaves cause she didnt want to hurt Sumin anymore, cause its useless to stay, lollll. This, she did better than Sungji about thousands times, lolll.
And talking about cruelty? So to you, right now, only Sumin is being treated cruel, lolll? Cause she is the one getting to be drawn in tears and being miserable?
Sungji left in a not so admiring way but who says she is happy?
And lets not talk about Seju, who also cried her heart out, who leaves the only person she loves, who now also has no one else.
Talk about cruelty? No one is not being left cruel at the moment, not just your Sumin.
Let's not hate on Sungji shall we? It just shows how human she is/can be, I guess? Tho I'm planning on using my remaining coins to other manwhas. Is that weird? Lol
I dont hate her, I would never be able to hate her but this couple, I would never support them, never again.
I'm still hoping for Team Gaji to make it SejuxSumin end. They might still have some twist/s left? Looool I'm desperate.XD
No, they wont. Unless there is really really some crazy twist
Nothing will fix what she did though ;) I though she was more mature and smart than that.
That's just how it is to make them the ending couple, lol. Without this, Seju wouldnt let go, lollll but well, I hate this ending so much that I dont know how to make myself read the remaining two chaps, lolll.
For God's sake, I've prepared this ending since forever but I cant believe when it happens, I despise it so much like this
last edited at Aug 28, 2017 10:38AM
But congrats to teamblonde and to me, 90% Sumin and Sungji will be together at the end xDDDDDDD.
Even though right now I hate that ending with every fiber of my being, lolllll.
I think you're not the only one, lol, although I'm not sure if I'd like team pink ending either. It would've been rushed up way too much to my liking, I guess. Seju needed her own healing arc.
If Sumin will go to Sungji, I'll flip the table. It's Sungji who should come to her senses now and go to Sumin.
Dont worry, she will meet Dawoon at the wedding, then Dawoon knocks some sense into her, and she'll run to Sumin. Happy ending for teamblonde, clap handssssss, lolllll
But congrats to teamblonde and to me, 90% Sumin and Sungji will be together in the end xDDDDDDD.
Even though right now I hate that ending with every fiber of my being, lolllll and I regret that bet soooo much now, lollll.
last edited at Aug 28, 2017 10:19AM
No guys, that's Sungji's mom. xD
Then maybe Seju and Sungji are sisters, lolll.
LOL that Seju remember Sungji's words so she left Sumin because she didnt want Sumin to hurt because of her anymore, LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL. And here we are Sungjj left to hurt Sumin to no end, LOLLLLLLL
Edit: but at least Seju made a proper goodbye, lol
last edited at Aug 28, 2017 10:06AM
But btw, even if Sungji and Sumin is together at the end, even there are Sungji fans, I gotta say this, Sungji is a big jerk, just after Sumin, lolll, didnt even have the gut to break up properly, cut all the contacts and Sumin doesnt even know what she has done wrong.
I'm sorry but SungjixSumin will never be my kind of ending. I resent it now.
last edited at Aug 28, 2017 9:48AM
her friend's wedding who invited her and Sumin in ch80
Oh, I forgot about that, lol. But I think Seju's part is done :). She has left to foreign country already.
I think I already won, right? Nora =))))