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Citrus discussion 12 Jun 14:19
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In most western countries (probably in japan too?), in present days, there are no laws against incest per se, as long as the persons involved are consenting, not mentally impaired, adults. There're law against them marrying, but nothing keeps them from having sex.

Not true, incest is a criminal offense in multiple western countries (quite a big amount too) regardless of age and consent and you will be prosecuted if you're found to have had sexual relationships with a first degree blood related sibling (not so much for cousins as I mentioned earlier).

Of course if no one reports you to the police, it's not like people will go after you.

last edited at Jun 12, 2015 2:26PM

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Citrus discussion 12 Jun 12:52
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You'd be surprised.

People went absolutely NUCLEAR at the Flash TV show because it made the love interest the adopted sister of the Flash. Message boards were filled with "GROSS", "FUCK THIS INCEST SHIT" and whatnot.

Well, those people clearly don't understand what the definition of incest entails.
You should give them a dictionary.

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Citrus discussion 12 Jun 08:37
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Can anyone enlighten me why Japan thinks cousins are okay, but adopted siblings not?

First cousins are usually more accepted worldwide simply because the blood relation between the two individuals is much much smaller.
The Coefficient of Relationship (the kinship value) between first cousins is only 12% (same as second cousins) whereas the value for full siblings and parents is 50%.
Incest laws usually only pertain to coefficients higher than 25% because that's kind of the point where inbreeding can cause damage.
I know a couple of cousins who got married here and it's not seen as weird and I'm going to guess Japan is the same.
I'm also going to guess it has to do with Japan's history of arranged marriages where often cousin marriages would occur due to a bunch of factors.
Cousin relationships and marriae are also usually not prohibited in a lot of religions, Christianity included.
Overall, it's just been more culturally accepted.

The only countries in the world where cousin marriage is actually illegal are The USA (in most states), China, India, Philippines, Slovenia, Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia and Hungary.

last edited at Jun 12, 2015 9:14AM

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GAAAAAAAAAAY oh right this is a doujin not part of the anthology.

@Nosebleed: You also missed a line behind the "w" here, do you use the lasso/marquee tool when you edit? because I've noticed those kind of lines in some of your releases, anyway thanks for the hard work as usual. resists urge to volunteer for editing no I'm not just copying OrangePekoe, I've been resisting the urge for a while evidence im not BSing

Not gonna lie, I looked at the page for a good 10 mins before I found that.
I don't typically use the lasso tool, I think what I should do first is clean and then typeset over the clean scans but I tend to do everything at the same time and then things like that slip by me.
Also, I tend to do these things in the spur of the moment, usually several hours straight late at night, so at one point my eyes are just giving out and quality control becomes more lax.
As for extra words, that's what happens when I'm writing the sentence and then realize I could word it better but forget to delete some part of the previous sentence. :P
Well none of it should be an excuse for simple mistakes like this, but despite knowing all that, I often still derp.
I think my problem is trying to do it all in one go.

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Oh god, the names lol.

"No"
English3deep5me

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It's been fixed now, thanks for pointing it out.
I swear I go over my releases. But the derp is too strong with me...(・□・;)
I need to find someone to proofread my stuff.

OrangePekoe resists the urge to volunteer

OrangePekoe pls (◕‿◕✿)

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On page 14 in the second bubble of the first panel there's an additional 'change' that is unnecessary.
And on page 19 the third to last bubble "that's" is spelled tha'ts.

It's been fixed now, thanks for pointing it out.
I swear I go over my releases. But the derp is too strong with me...(・□・;)
I need to find someone to proofread my stuff.

last edited at Jun 10, 2015 12:26PM

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B-bunnies die when they feel lonely, th-that's why I decided to translate this instead of studying for my finals...

last edited at Jun 10, 2015 11:20AM

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Snowave, I've been looking at this gif for hours now and still cannot compute why that dog is doing this.

Clearly they didn't get enough milk from their mother when they were a puppy and are going through a rebellious stage. (Best I could come up with to make this comment relevant to the manga in this thread).

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I say this as both Kouhai's friend and a scanlator myself...

I don't think any scanlator is above criticism, no matter how much effort (or lack thereof) put in to a release. Seriously, there are many times where I wince at poor translations or typesetting, or anything of the sort. I honestly wish more people really would criticise scanlators (and especially myself!) because it's the only way people are going to improve. Kouhai knows well the pedantically high level of quality I hold myself and others to, but I think she appreciates it (mostly).

But there's good ways and bad ways to criticise people. I think everyone can agree that candy is showing us a really terrible way of doing so. And it's unfortunate, because not only is he actually willing to criticise where most aren't, he's causing a defensive reaction from others, including the awful "scanlators are above reproach" type of response.

We should encourage people to get better, not put them down... Or alternatively jack up their egos such that they don't see improvement as necessary.

You wouldn't believe the amount of shit you would get for making this comment on another forum I moderate. I've seen several translation projects dropped because people jumped on a bandwagon and bashed down the translators so hard they quit the project.
Being an ass about translations doesn't do anything good, it just creates an unpleasant atmosphere and is harmful to both parties because you're engaging in non productive discussion based on inflamatory comments. There's better ways to stroke your e-penis. Some people man...

last edited at Jun 9, 2015 11:27AM

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I didn't know a book could be so "ruined" solely by the title being translated differently.
I'm not saying titles can't be improved, as kouhai proved to me once already, but just saying, even if the title was something retarded like "shitting dick nipples" (don't google that), the content still wouldn't have changed and would have still been enjoyable.
Don't see the need to rage over the title that hard.
And if these are the worst quality scans you've seen and even require the "lots of JPG artifacts" tag, I guess I should be crying in a corner now over how god awful my releases are ヽ(´□`。)ノ

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Damn Nico, you tell her!

This was so sweet, I can't even.

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Literally crying rainbows.

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This series taught me that love comes in many forms, and that human breast milk is just one of those forms.

May this artist release a 4th chapter one day in the near future.

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Nothing like buying some underwear for your waifu.

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All humans can lactate, including newborn babies.
It's much more rare in men, but it can and has happened, though compared to women, it's typically caused by a disease rather than a physical stimulus.
In case a man does manage to develop mammary glands for whichever reason, he can breastfeed a child normally just like a woman would (Science!).

And no I did not do a thorough research on this topic for the sake of translating this manga. D-Don't get the wrong idea, I-I just knew this stuff from highschool.

But I was wondering, how on earth does Chloe sucked on both of Lillian's breasts?!! Oh nevermind

According to Darwin, all 2D characters evolved to be made out of a really elastic material.

last edited at Jun 6, 2015 9:22AM

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I... I think you're just thinking too hard about it.
I mean, they live in a world with magic, the last thing I'm going to question is milk coming out of breasts.
Fun fact: humans can lactate without being pregnant, it has to do with hormone releases, not the pregnancy itself, the pregnancy is just the main trigger for said hormones to be produced in larger quantities, but if you have a hormone imbalance, which can be caused by a disease or induced by actual pharmaceuticals, you can lactate without a pregnancy.
And as far as the other girl finding it tasty goes, there's a fetish for everything and she's clearly into her breast milk for one reason or another. Let her be :P
(But if you're really curious you can read about erotic lactation)
And hey if they live in a magic world, maybe it actually tastes good.
Point is, I don't think this is something one should question that much when it's a work of fiction clearly aimed at people with specific fetishes. If you spend most of your time questioning the physical impossibilities in hentai, you're going to have a bad time.

last edited at Jun 5, 2015 11:46PM

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Image Comments 05 Jun 22:21
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Same as ever, just your casual blushing and inner fangirling.

Cyan and Retoree are so lovely together. I want some doujins of them now<3

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Ooooh another chapter. I didn't think this would get a continuation.

There's a 3rd one as well. (Coming Soon™)

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Bridesmaid discussion 05 Jun 11:33
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The amount of people turning this into a culture debate is over 9000. I doubt the author had that kind of intent when writing this, but maybe that's just me.

I think the sole problem this manga has is simply that it's kind of poorly written in terms of narrative and the angst comes off forcefully and with little justification.

There's better ways to present this type of "forced" marriage theme, but this one just made the bride seem like a douchebag and the bridesmain was needlessly put under fire at at the wedding cerimony when they could have solved this the moment she decided to get married rather than at the cerimony itself.

last edited at Jun 5, 2015 11:34AM

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Bridesmaid discussion 04 Jun 20:47
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Imo the Bride confess to Fleur so they can both moving on fron their feelings, there's nothing cruel here.

So you're saying the sole way to move on with someone's feelings is to break their heart really hard at a wedding cerimony?
They couldn't have solved it before at any moment, it just had to be this sole moment?

The problem I see with this story is not so much the cruelty in itself, but rather how misplaced and unjustified the cruelty is.
Angst needs to be properly justified and I really feel like this scenario didn't justify it much and it makes me feel like it's just angst for the sake of being angst and that doesn't sit well with me.

last edited at Jun 4, 2015 8:50PM

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Bridesmaid discussion 04 Jun 18:33
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"I've always loved you, and I'll make sure to only tell you when I get married to someone else in front of you to make sure it really hurts."

I don't mind angsty stories or bad/sad endings, but this was needlessly cruel on the bride's part. Maybe that's just me though.
Even if it's the whole "I'll tell you so I won't have any regrets", there's better times to do that other than literally at the wedding cerimony...

last edited at Jun 4, 2015 6:37PM

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Marriage discussion 04 Jun 12:36
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While uncommon, Onee-sama can be used to address someone who is like an eledery sister figure, regardless of age.
Much like you can call your co-worker who has worked longer than you at a company "senpai", even if they're younger than you.
In this case, you can infer Miku has been in the business longer than Luka, so it's not odd to imagine Luka looks up to Miku as a superior entity (corroborated by the fact she adds the "sama" suffix which indicates a lot of respect). Even if Miku is younger than Luka.
I know it's uncommon and most fanmade works depict Luka as an elderly sister figure and the general rule is you call someone older "onee-sama" rather than the opposite, but the way this author depicted the relationship isn't inherently wrong.
Though I understand why some people feel like it's weird, but I can't really rewrite what the author wrote so~

last edited at Jun 4, 2015 12:41PM

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June Brider discussion 04 Jun 11:38
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Woah, no NSFW tag? Mods pls.
Look at that hardcore handholding.
That's some 18+ extra lewd action.
My innocence has been tainted.

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Image Comments 28 May 00:15
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Well, Dekomori and Nibutani kissed in that Chuunibyou special...so I guess there's a 0.000001% chance of something between these two happening. I know it won't happen but it's not like there's 0 precedent.

last edited at May 28, 2015 12:15AM