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BugDevil
Image Comments 02 Jul 03:11
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018
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Homura looks like she's about 10 years older than Madoka in this. Growth spurt? lol

BugDevil
Image Comments 02 Jul 03:11
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018
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^These still don't look like old bathing dresses either.

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Things should get rectified once they’ve been naked in bed together, would be my guess.

That's a weirdly specific time to get over her issue of calling out her partner's name- Oh. OH. Oh.

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

But for whatever reason she also calls her "Nanami-senpai" in her thoughts. That strikes me as really odd. I honeslty can't find any rhyme or reason for this.

Maybe she's still not fully used to calling her Touko-senpai yet?

So she can do it vocally, but not mentally?
It just kinda shows to me that she hasn't really arrived in the girlfriend mindset yet. I would say calling her senpai in private is bad enough, but it issss Japan after all, so whatevs.

last edited at Jul 1, 2019 5:55PM

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

So a mix of shipping wars and the usual morallly questionable stuff, eh? Good thing I stay away from landmines like Yuzumori-san and other lolicon shit like it...

Just want to say that while its lolicon tag isn’t wrong, there’s really not much else like Yuzumori-san, and, while the theme may not be to everyone’s taste, it’s not shit.

My last word on this off-topic subject. Shall we renew the “YagaKimi—plotless slice-of-life” discussion instead? Lol

Uhm... I mean, you can like what you want, but I could summarize Yuzumori-san best as this: Bipolar. Occasionally revolting. Cop-out ending.
It is kinda unique... in that it doesn't go all the way with it's bad theme, but still pretends to do so. Well, I shouldn't complain too much. The alternative would be worse after all. Being one of a kind must be one heck of a contributor to likability for you.

Oh wait, this was the YagaKimi thread? Whoopsie~
spins gears
RIGHT. I actually have something to say that doesn't end in reheating old brain pain.

I have noticed in this chapter in particular that Yuu has a confusing habit. When she is alone with Touko she calls her Touko-senpai as expected. When she is in front of others she calls her Nanami-senpai as expected.
But for whatever reason she also calls her "Nanami-senpai" in her thoughts. That strikes me as really odd. I honeslty can't find any rhyme or reason for this.

last edited at Jul 1, 2019 5:39PM

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Anything with age-gap or even the suggestion of lolicon (as in Yuzumori-san ) always has the potential to metastasize in discussion very quickly, and . . . at various points that one did.

Thankfully those issues didn’t really come up in this one. Although various teapot-sized tempests have blown up from time to time, I think really serious conflict was avoided by the story making abundantly clear that, beloved as she became to many readers, it was Never Going to Be Sayaka.

So the Secondary Shippers were just sad rather than becoming combative.

So a mix of shipping wars and the usual morallly questionable stuff, eh? Good thing I stay away from landmines like Yuzumori-san and other lolicon shit like it...

Yeah, in a way YagaKimi was really predictable on some points, intentionally of course. Though I want to add that "not going to be the one" technically doesn't stop things from escalating. If Sayaka were an annoying 3rd wheel love rival like the usual archetype she would still have caused much of a fuss, even if it's obvious she has no chance.
I find that in most stories with triangles or even wannabe harems, there is always a rather obvious authorial choice. One girl that is obviously the "main" heroine. So while it is predictable who, for a lack of a better term, wins, the shipping wars are still unencumbered for the mere reason that competition exists.

EDIT: I just realized that Ejima Eri is the author of Yuzumori-san. Should have connected the dots there. Yeah no shit that caused a war lol

last edited at Jul 1, 2019 5:28PM

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Please don't start another religion, last time we had a holy war and we lost half the forum populace... Yes, The Great Ejima Eri war.
That's when Nez chan got her famous Onepunch-ban nickname
(https://s.booth.pm/c4336a75-2d2a-4230-931e-b8ba1f44604a/i/304294/fe35b61c-b45d-4f7e-bd73-13e3c28bbf7a.jpeg)

Dare I even ask? Good to know that this place was always hopeless.

last edited at Jul 1, 2019 4:51PM

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Any bets on what the prize will be? "Dinner with my parents"? "Screw your knuckles, kiss me openly"?

Calling it now, the cheesecake flag will finally be satisfied. It has been set up dozens of chapters ago, so the time has come! I can almost taste the words...

"Let me eat your cheesecake senpai."

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Sorry, it wasn't even a well-structured response. I just got mad and said whatever jumped through my mind. This derogatory way of talking about such a beloved and well made manga (and the fact that she insulted Morinaga on top of that) from someone who obviously has a bias and missed the point just riles me up.

In hindsight it is pointless to respond to something like... that. You can't reason with the unreasonable.

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

I don't know what you're talking about. Beside the male co-worker, none male are bastard at all and i prefer having some het girls then having the classic "all lesbian" trope.

Right, this manga might just raised my heterophobia level a lot. This is more like het story with bisexual main couple, not yuri. Lots of het + bisexual main heroines. And it could not be other way, since it is sell out successful manga, so Morinaga had to make it this way to make it more "acceptable". While this fact is really sad - I understand this, Morinaga wanted money(not so much I guess, but still) and fame(mostly). You need to add trendy "society acceptable" crap to sell your stories.
But, such attitude - "Oh, I almost got raped by a guy while being drunk in love hotel, so... I will try girls instead" by Akko, and - "Oh, my beloved girl act like a het bitch, so... I will hook up with a male" - by Mari. Such attitude I do not like, it made me really mad, acting as trendy bitches. Certainly I can't call this true yuri. Overall this story is not yuri, but just about trendy bisexual bitches who failed to meet a guy and thus they stick with a girl, for now. May be later in their life they will go for the males again, may be not, depends.

Okay, I didn't wanna join in, but this is just ridiculous... Neither Akko nor Mari have ever displayed a real interest in boys. They didn't figure out their sexuality right away, but there is absolutely not a single shred of evidence that they are bisexual. It wasn't forced in there and has no relevance. This is the stage in their lives where they figure themselves out and in this context thinking that their feelings might be romantic is hard to swallow. Mari realized it, but she was afraid of Akko's rejection so she made some mistakes. That doesn't mean she ever cared about boys.

This is just a realistic depiction of such situations (minus the "friend kiss" part). These plot points have literally nothing to do with sales or fame... what a ridiculous thing to assert.

Heteronormativity is a thing and that the friends are hetero is not a problem at all. You are literally ignorant if you believe this bullshit about "May be later in their life they will go for the males again, may be not, depends." Did you even read the manga? Do you remotely understand what their relationship is like by the end? There is absolutely no reason to think they would break up. They didn't "settle" on going out with a girl as a replecament for failing with guys, they love each other.

I have never seen such a blatantly bad reading of this plot before. It's beyond baffling. You already revealed your heterophobia, so I guess that makes your thinking a bit more unreasonable, but this story is 100% yuri in every facette. It's the love story of two girls who fall for another girl. They end up dating and have a solid relationship. It's yuri. For fucks sake.

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Yeah, I've been reading about that issue lately. It bugs me. I hope we drop that shoujo-ai completely and soon. I don't think we need 'shoujo-ai' as a term for 'not full-on Yuri'. Yuri IS Yuri and that should be an enough name for the genre.

We already got Yuri and Subtext. Nothing more needed. Those two tags literally encompass any variation possible.

BugDevil
Yuri Moyou discussion 01 Jul 02:09
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Two cute things cuddling is a balm for the soul. It's easy to get over your prejudices for cats if you see the love your crush has for them.

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Oh, speak of the devil. My sources were right it seems. I didn't read it of course, but it's good(?) to see that it exists... I guess.

last edited at Jul 1, 2019 2:06AM

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

^The fact that the answer is directly above your comment is the best kind of comedy.

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Talking about how happy she was while crossing the street...thought she was triggering a Truck-kun flag there for a sec.

Same here, something about the panel just screams everything is happy it would be a shame if someth-

It's a good thing we had that streetlight next to inform us that it was safe to cross the road.

You really believe Truck-kun is bound by traffic laws?

last edited at Jun 30, 2019 4:37PM

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

So if they've never taken off their clothes, how did they poop until now?

Literally answered on this page.

Where?

This quote that wasn't far above your question:

So... like... these girls just never go to the bathroom...? If they don't even know they can take their britches off..? lol....

It's explained in the official artbook everything clips through their clothes.

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

no no no there'll be no who's "top" and who's "bottom" here, that's yaoi nonsense. and one of the things i like about yuri, because it's hardly brought in here. it is one of the stupidest things imo. on avg there is no top or bottom for people, just what you're in the mood for, and silly to try and define someone by it. who initiates it is something that can be debated, but that doesn't mean "well that's my role in sex now, that's the only way to do it from here on."

Well now... I also am under the impression that 90% of people are natural switches (to different degrees), but saying bottom and top dynamics dont exist in yuri/real life is nonsense.

I met several people (in this forum no less) who already said they prefer only ever doing one of the two. I think the term was pillow princess for permanent bottoms...

In fiction this is even more prevelant, so please don't say that this is somehow a yaoi only thing. The roles are just not called seme and uke in Yuri, but rather tachi and neko.

last edited at Jun 30, 2019 2:13PM

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Touko is slightly jealous of the cat on the cover

"I wanna get into that jacket too..."

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

At the absolute edge of the possible, Yuu is a power bottom. It's more likely she will take the lead.
Remember that Yuu was only passive because of their agreement.

I still have the storage room in head after the festival and that now so i kinda see Yuu as the bottom but in other hand i think Touko will be happy to have Yuu taking the lead.

Soi don't know, maybe double switch is the solution.

I think I've said this a long time ago, but Yuu is definitely a top who would be bottom if Touko asked her. While Yuu is determined to do things she wants, she is also incredibly considerate.
She had to hold back for so long (in self-denial) that it made her look meeker than she is. Still, Touko is certainly aggressive in her own way, so Yuu will probably let her take the lead if she really wants to.

In other words, they both very much seem to be switches. I mean, most people are anyway.

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

At the absolute edge of the possible, Yuu is a power bottom. It's more likely she will take the lead.
Remember that Yuu was only passive because of their agreement.

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

^ Now, please, let's not turn this into a Citrus forum, please...

I'd look at my own posts first if I were you.

That's even worse for my point of view. She knowbut she does nothing because she want Yuzu to confess up. Till the excuse of not knowning was there, she was somewhat innocent but there no. If anything, it make me hate more because it's more stupid than what i thought. I can't really relate but if one of my best friend seem trouble, i ask him about. I don't wait for him to come to see me after talking to everybody beside me.

Harumin does worry about Yuzu and ask her what troubles her literally all the time. If Yuzu doesn't tell her, then she has to accept it. Friends who force themselves into situations they don't understand or are not wanted in are far worse.

I can already tell that you don't comprehend Harumin's character and role though, so this is pointless.

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

I will not developp on that one because i found myself having a hate boner on Harumin.

What kind of cretin could hate Harumin? What unspeakable torture can leave you with a mind so broken?!

Because i found Harumin being more useless than Mei. So much credit to someone so call best friend who didn't even know that Yuzu love Mei. I can barely count on my hand the amount of time Harumin has been useful to Yuzu. She can't help with most of Yuzu struggle because they are Mei's relatedand since Harumin doesn't know, she can't help. Seriously, she is the last one to learn about the two and i don't count Nene because she is just a gag character. Even the twins who appear like 2 times after their arc are more useful than Harumin.

If i'ma crétin then fine by me because i won't my opinion on that one.

Why do you define how good a character is by how "useful" they are in the first place? That's asinine.

It was heavily implied that Harumin knew about Yuzu and Mei for a while, but stayed silent and waited for Yuzu to open up herself. Harumin had Yuzu's back all the time, but if Yuzu doesnt confide in her she can't help. Harumin certainly was more passive, but she was so out of consideration.

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

i am looking for new manga, which can you suggest for reading?

Well it would help if you gave some modifiers to that request.
What genre?
How long?
Finished or On-going?
And so on and so forth.

last edited at Jun 30, 2019 6:03AM

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

I will not developp on that one because i found myself having a hate boner on Harumin.

What kind of cretin could hate Harumin? What unspeakable torture can leave you with a mind so broken?!

BugDevil
Anime season 29 Jun 16:53
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

I'm a little sad https://myanimelist.net/news/57877890
Because is minimal in every aspect and most likely not canon

To be fair, whatever is really canon in YuruYuri?

last edited at Jun 29, 2019 4:53PM