luinthoron posted:

Goddammit, guys, jumped the gun and ruined it all...

Yeah, a confession is not a party, is something very delicate between TWO people

That’s why I prefer to see this as a bunch of tropes crashing around—if we were to judge this by the ethics of everyday life, the whole gang is behaving inexcusably badly.

Not sure if you're being facetious but that's a little overblown towards the other side imo. Like, yea, it is a very insensitive faux pas she's right to be angry about. But it's also not like the gang's out here kicking puppies or anything, def not on the level of "inexcusably bad".

There is some room between "kind of a shitty thing to do" and "oh my god they might as well be a murderer" xD

Now you're being overblown--there are plenty of social-etiquette things that fall into the category of "you just don't do that--full stop" that fall short of kicking puppies or being a murderer.

It's not " kind of a shitty thing to do"--it's something you should not do. And "Oh, we were so excited--we really wanted to see it!" is not a valid excuse.

Sometimes people get a little over excited when cheering on their friends, and trying to celebrate. I mean hey at least they didn't burn down a significant part of California over a gender reveal party, so there's worse celebrations out there lol

Ultimately I think everything will work out, and it shouldn't be the end of the world or anything. Maybe everyone will learn to give some extra space in situations such as this. Just a matter of communication, they're young and they'll be fine I'm sure.

TVtropes isn't a good website IMO. There's various problems with it. Even just on the surface it makes people view most everything as it's tropes and nothing more, a very cynical outlook where they seek to rip something into pieces while viewing it in the most reductionist manner possible.

the mere fact that they deleted the entire page for MahouAko because people complained about it's genre is enough reason to dislike it imo.

Yeah...and from what I know there's media on there that's far more offensive than MahouAko.

luinthoron posted:

Goddammit, guys, jumped the gun and ruined it all...

Yeah, a confession is not a party, is something very delicate between TWO people

That’s why I prefer to see this as a bunch of tropes crashing around—if we were to judge this by the ethics of everyday life, the whole gang is behaving inexcusably badly.

Not sure if you're being facetious but that's a little overblown towards the other side imo. Like, yea, it is a very insensitive faux pas she's right to be angry about. But it's also not like the gang's out here kicking puppies or anything, def not on the level of "inexcusably bad".

There is some room between "kind of a shitty thing to do" and "oh my god they might as well be a murderer" xD

Yeah it's nothing too bad ultimately, and I view fictional media as something that takes place in it's own reality, so the story is still working for me even if it's not necessarily realistic to real life. Though I've seen things in real life that are way more out there than anything in this manga, so my suspension of disbelief is nowhere even close to breaking. I think with all media there will always be things that are realistic to some and unrealistic to others.

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Seems like a proper conclusive way to wrap up feelings with a conversation, though it still ends on a wild fantasy with all 3 of them lol

^This Tweet is the original inspiration I believe

Very in character

Nijika Punch!

Lovely, Sexy, and Incredible that they're canon as well

Hickies on the neck, bite mark on the side, Soyo once again is being eaten alive by Anon and I love it haha

Adorable

Art like this that gets the imagination active is fun

Interesting that the "lipstick" marks are from blood

Nina may be a gremlin but she deserves love + headpats.

Yeah, step sisters, english is not my first language and forgot the correct term. And exactly, you expressed my exact point of view with better words.

Very understandable, glad I could help.

Just to clarify, the term siscon doesn't have to have incestuous implications. It's also frequently used when a sibling is just a bit too focused/possessive/concerned/protective about their sister~ Miki fangirling over Aki fits that bill, though it's not as obvious as it could've been with a bit more previous screen time

Fair, I'm mostly familiar with the term being associated with the incest implication so that's where my thoughts go.

Well, it is more of a wish than anything else, since no one with a healthy mind would prefer the other option. In any case, Miki's issue with Aki will most likely not be romantic. At least not in a literal sense.

I wouldn't go as far as saying "no one with a healthy mind", it's not the route I want the story to go here, but it's also not something I'm going to say people are unhealthy for enjoying. Especially with this story being fictional, and there's way worse things in media out there.

^Haha well a good time to discover the music video it sounds like

Well, that was certainly unexpected (at least to me).
If it weren't for the fact that it's her own sister we are talking about, I would have no doubt that the last few pages imply that she likes Aki.
If we rule that out (I certainly hope that's the case), a second option would be that she has a crush on Shiho, which would also be pretty strange since I don't remember seeing them interact or even Miki mentioning her (I'm sure she did, but nothing relevant). Still, I wouldn't dislike it, to be honest.

A third option would be some trauma related to her old boyfriend (which she mentioned to Hima at the beginning of the series). Although, being a manga where men basically don't exist, I doubt the author wants to put too much emphasis on anything related to him. Maybe Miki lied, and she never even had a boyfriend to begin with? Maybe it's just that she feels more lonely and "left behind" now that Aki has found a partner?

Another option would be that the author came out with this out of nowhere to extend the series, of course.

In any case, I hope Shiho plays an active role again in this Arc, helping Aki with whatever problem Miki is facing.

This isn't super surprising to me, we always knew Miki was a bit of a siscon

Huh, I don't think I ever suspected that. Maybe I should reread the first chapters.

Yeah I always thought she was only fond of her sister, as a sister. Not a siscon, so I didn't see this coming myself.

Ummm... I don't like where this is going to be honest. Like please be something else, please. At least the “incest” plot in Citrus they are half sisters that didn't grow up together or were raised by their parents, they were strangers, Mei and Yuzu's parents relationship is weird, not the point. Here, in sasakoi if they are going that pat is blood related incest, it's gonna ruin this story for me.

Adding I was expecting a messy story with HajimexMomoka and being in love with the girlfriend of your deceased sister.... please no incestplot.

I think in Ctirus they're step-sisters, half-sisters they would be blood related still. Half-sibling means your parent had a kid with another person, so they're half related to you, but still a sibling all the same. Step-sibling is when your parent remarries and they have kids already. Which is the case in Citrus if I remember correctly, where Citrus being controversial for the "incest" is really an almost non existent factor, due to them not being blood relations and dating almost as soon as their parents married, they didn't grow up together or anything. It's basically a way for Citrus to be "taboo" and have the characters live together.

Anyways... YagaKimi may have been finely engineered/crafted, introspective, even subversive... but I don't think it really made my simple monkey brain as happy as YoriHima does.

If I think of these characters not as imaginary human beings with plausible psychologies in a more-or-less realistic storyworld but more like counters in a game of love/friendship/heartbreak and confess/accept/reject, it becomes a lot more fun.

Like, "Ooh! They just played the siscon/incest card! Let's go!"

I thought about this yesterday. They clearly aren't real or realistic people (I considered using the term "hyperreal" because I want to call them "better than real" but I don't think the definition of that properly fits this situation), they're basically cartoon characters, and not in the whole "anime ARE just cartoons anyway" sense, but more that they're ludicrously caricatured characters. More akin to building blocks (like Legos) of behaviors and tropes. If you've spent too much time on TVTropes like me, you'll know "Tropes Are Tools" and that you can kind of see tropes everywhere. But with a series like this, it's more opaque and obvious.

I think everyone spends too much time on TVtropes nowadays. Not really a fan of that site or others like it.

TVtropes isn't a good website IMO. There's various problems with it. Even just on the surface it makes people view most everything as it's tropes and nothing more, a very cynical outlook where they seek to rip something into pieces while viewing it in the most reductionist manner possible.

Also I've seen people criticize YagiKami, saying it had weird elements, and so fourth. So I don't think it's this black and white situation where Whispering is just trashy junkfood and YagiKami is this god like flawless piece of media. I don't know, just seems too cynical and putting one thing on a pedestal out of favoritism for me. As I've said on some YagiKami art where this was brought up, I might enjoy Whispering a little more but I enjoy both series and I rather not make it into some comparison game myself. I genuinely enjoy this manga for what it is, and I also enjoy YagiKami for what it is.

Edit: That said though, we'll see how the future of the manga goes. I'm not a fan of the siscon spoiler element people are mentioning for this series, I never thought of that as being something that would come up here. I genuinely do think at least up until now there's been some fantastic character moments in this series, that have been fueled by scenes of great character communication, that make the relationships feel good to me.

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^I got it via searching "apology hose meme", It's from a music video by Passion Pit and the song is Carried Away

https://youtu.be/DiEwJTOderQ?si=2-7B72XofQp4EF7u

^Thanks

^She's about to become a Bijou sandwich

^I think it's the dots, I'm unfortunately spacing on the term off hand but yeah that's part of the style.

Also love this artist's work <3

Very hot

Ink went from driving the Gwitch fandom wild to driving Meshi fans wild. As someone who enjoys both series it's been fun to see.

Tomato or Wife, Suletta makes sure to enjoy what she's eating

@Kojiro481 I married Penny on my first run of the game, she's so adorable. I also adopted a baby with her eventually...and I think I'm going to go without kids for the next play through. I rather just have a cozy home life with the wife haha

@1kiwi.7 That's entirely fair I think