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joined Jul 26, 2019

We might have a laugh when yori goes to "taste" himari's first cookies ^^

joined Jul 26, 2019

But I take it from you ^^ we can see that konatsu doesn't want to replace one friendship for another friendship, koyuki by kaede although this one is presented as the perfect replacement ,kind ,helpful, funny....no konatsu wants to preserve this bond as she says but is not just that, she feels towards koyuki much more than friendship but for the moment she is unable to determine what it is. That's why she says that even if she has other friends, it will never replace koyuki who is much more than a friend.

joined Jul 26, 2019

And she also resents koyuki a lot, it just looks like jealousy and fear of losing the person you love except that she doesn't admit it yet...

joined Jul 26, 2019

^
I feel bad for Kaede since she got herself involved for the good of both of them but couldn't really achieve anything and even indirectly led Konatsu down the path she's on now. I hope things get sorted out for her sake too.

She should have discussed and warned konatsu about her departure to Tokyo knowing what it means instead of dodging the problem... she wants to be the bridge between the two but it is a mistake, because she is not telling neither konatsu nor koyuki that they should talk directly to each other and especially what each thinks of the other…
Like the other two kaede wants to do things indirectly, which would work for normal people but not here.These girls need to be told the truth and not always the same question "do you feel lonely?" that keeps coming back over and over again.The real question is, how do you feel about her?

joined Jul 26, 2019

It's funny how little Kaede's affection matters to Konatsu.

I don’t think that’s true at all. It seems to me that this whole chapter is about how, even though the good classmate friends will be together, they’ll have the friendly and sympathetic sensei for homeroom, and there will likely be others to join the aquarium club, none of that can replace the special connection with Koyuki that Konatsu longs for.

‘Cuz they gay.

That's quite true, and as long as konatsu and koyuki don't definitely discuss their true feelings, konatsu won't turn the page and will not be able to enjoy or even accept other friendships.
I think it's really koyuki who has to make the effort for that, kaede helped well but rather interfered in reality on the special relationship of konastu and koyuki...
It's koyuki who wants to move and even go to Tokyo but acts like a coward to konastu, just wanting to prepare his departure and have peace of mind by leaving her "friends" and going through kaede (which is the classmate close to konatsu) to confess instead of konatsu.

last edited at Oct 28, 2019 12:12PM

joined Jul 26, 2019

Don't forget that koyuki hides things from konatsu and preferred to confess to kaede even for something as important as going to tokyo to pursue his studies, while konatsu is her best friend...
She distanced herself from konatsu in an illogical way when she was only thinking of staying together and konatsu didn't have the courage to tell her to stop wanting to open up to others to the detriment of her. From this koyuki point of view was selfish without really realizing it.
So that finally konatsu makes a real gesture of anger and despair in front of her should make things happen... hopefully ^^
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/nettaigyo_wa_yuki_ni_kogareru_ch14#30
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/nettaigyo_wa_yuki_ni_kogareru_ch14#31
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/nettaigyo_wa_yuki_ni_kogareru_ch14#32
For me it seems obvious to me that she couldn't change her mind that much with just a few openings with other people... either koyuki lies to herself while forcing herself to appreciate these new friendships or there is a counter meaning to the story on the part of the author, you can't lose so much her deep feelings and want to move away like a coward of her best friend...

last edited at Oct 28, 2019 8:30AM

joined Jul 26, 2019

I hope not that the story will introduce the boy into the club and become a kind of confidant for konatsu and make us drag the evolution of their story too long... the rhythm is already slow enough as it is, we need a discussion between these 2 humans like any person who has the language...

joined Jul 26, 2019

Or she turns her back on the club and leaves koyuki in embarrassment with her father and we start again on a distant and dramatic conflict....Anyway koyuki took a kind of slap, how she will react she who thought she would leave her girlfriend in the best mood and continue her journey with peace of mind.Miss it!

joined Jul 26, 2019

On the contrary, I see with this end of chapter a great possible progress, its stagnating too much between the two the clash will necessarily have an electroshock and I hope that at the next chapter something concrete will be discussed between them.

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

Kaede is madly in love with shion, not like the others who are only shion's friends... kaede takes akemi as a rival and even warns her to keep shion well otherwise....

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

I mean, Kaoru having feelings for Uta is already a wishful thinking imo, but having feeling for Risako is unbelievable. So I doubt there will ever be this type of love triangle.
On the other hand, it wouldn't be impossible that Risako actually had feelings for Kaoru all along.
Her character has been mysterious and even the cheating is yet to be confirmed. So I could believe that the author leaving it ambiguous might hide more than just showing how low Kaoru is willing to stoop for keeping Reichii.

Of course it's just a guess, but if we want the story to go forward, the author will have to move things forward or the story will skate...
Uta is far away now, focus on kaoru kaoru's anger towards reiichi who doesn't want a baby
Risako on the phone who troubles kaoru and evening between girls or kaoru and risako come back together again and kaoru ends up still troubled and uncertain, the author insists a lot on that
What is certain is that kaoru has no specific feelings at all outside friendship with risako.
On the other hand risako is much more mysterious and her answers to uta about how she knows how to take care of kaoru, to go out to school with reicchi and now would not be a sabotage to keep kaoru to herself out of jealousy?
Then yes it already seems difficult for uta and kaoru to get closer lovingly (even if I have my idea on that) but we know how kaoru can seem completely illogical when she is stressed, risako could try to enjoy it.....It goes far I realize it, personally I prefer the scenario that kaoru is deceived by reicchi and risako and combined with the absence of uta goes into depression, uta the learner returns to support her and the, their relationship slowly evolves towards something other than sister and big sister.....

last edited at Oct 20, 2019 8:50PM

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/my_unrequited_love_vol_3_extra_3#4

Oh, I hadn't noticed that. They'd make a good looking couple in that colored picture.

But honestly Risako being in love with Kaoru I a strech.

It's been a while that we see risako intermittently and each time with harmless dialogues that seem to be of no interest but finally....the small encounters between risako and uta for example .
If this is the way the author chooses, we have not finished with the drama because a new uta-kaoru-risako triangle would be quite intense 00

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

Risako stole Reiichi because she wanted Kaoru to divorce, so she can have her.

Where did I read something like that? Oh right, in some Kodama Naoko.

if only

I'd take that over het drama any time.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/my_unrequited_love_vol_3_extra_3#4

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

Otherwise you don't think risako seems weird, at first I really thought she wanted to stay with reicchi but now I have a doubt, she pushes kaoru to ask for a baby when she knows very well that reii doesn't want... she seems to look at kaoru in a special way..

Oh god please no, that's the last thing i want to. I don't need a remake of NTR, adult life version

chapter 27 is almost exclusive to kaoru and in the future it will share the same part since the story will very probably focus between kaoru and uta for a rapprochement or a return

Don't tell me the story goes nowhere once again .

Many theorize that kaoru has real feelings towards uta deeper than a simple relationship of sisters but that she refused to do so because she was determined to remain in the normality which was for her to have absolutely a family and a husband.... she has several declarations and reactions or we see her react illogically and we all know that kaoru does not say what she thinks and even that she lies to herself... she gives this impression not to know means love really...
Now that she is losing her family and husband and wondering if she was thinking wrong about what was really going on, the author may want to show us a kaoru awakening and her feelings....
I think we're going in that direction and risako is an important piece and I'm convinced that the author is not going to leave uta outside of all his...

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

and kaoru is indeed a character as important as uta in the manga with already 2 chapters entirely focused on her

???? Yeah no shit Sherlock she is suposs be the second main character, of course she is an important character.

And yet as for the covers you see as much kaoru and the current arc and chapter 27 is almost exclusive to kaoru and in the future it will share the same part since the story will very probably focus between kaoru and uta for a rapprochement or a return
Thank you Watson but without bragging most of the predictions I made on different mangas turned out to be right but thx !

It's a dramatic manga and although uta suffers a lot it's kaoru that attracts all the drama almost with these multiple stories with reiichi,uta, his dead parents, and risako...
Otherwise you don't think risako seems weird, at first I really thought she wanted to stay with reicchi but now I have a doubt, she pushes kaoru to ask for a baby when she knows very well that reii doesn't want... she seems to look at kaoru in a special way...

last edited at Oct 19, 2019 1:27PM

Stannis
Citrus + discussion 19 Oct 13:14
joined Jul 26, 2019

Reading these comments I'm seriously thinking of not giving citrus to dynasty anymore, sorry

We must not take this the wrong way, it is better to have constructive criticism than simple praise in each chapter....
The problem is that sabu is standing still on this citrus+, and characters like mei and yusu do not evolve even though they have gone through the most difficult period.
They live together, sleep together, go to school together but still don't talk to each other, I don't mind that there is naivety and shyness but we reach new heights... it's illogical what happens mei and yusu should kiss each other ,go out, share much more now, we don't even see what happens in their privacy, nothing, it's frustrating.

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

Things are finally accelerating and my predictions on the evolution of situations are good ^^
kaoru really starts to understand the real situation of his couple, risako really becomes an important and decisive character, and kaoru is indeed a character as important as uta in the manga with already 2 chapters entirely focused on her

If it continues as I thought it would, kaoru will question his feelings, to absolutely want to remain in the normality of a male and female couple, of a family. And to think more and more about what is the case in the last 2 chapters=

My prediction for the furur is that she will part from reiichi, that risako will have to confess, moreover risako is a rather mysterious character it seems that she hides something deeper, is she in love with kaoru? that she will want uta to come back but it will not be as easy to convince her because uta no longer wants to be just a mouth hole

Stannis
Citrus + discussion 19 Oct 10:03
joined Jul 26, 2019

How long is it that their love relationship has almost become a friendly relationship... the author should still show more scenes or at home, they do something other than politeness...
It's nice but good exaggerated in the extreme on evolution, they sleep together, embarrass themselves, take their baths together but it seems that the author wants to hide all these facets from us.
Which gives the impression of a repressed fake couple... it's been months and months that they know each other and it seems like we're back almost at the starting point...
The new duo feels the spin off for the future...

Stannis
1 x ½ discussion 10 Oct 19:06
joined Jul 26, 2019

No big deal asuka will push back even more senpai and understands her manege and get closer to her mother to tell her that it is her mom that she loves. A dialogue will follow you more if affinity to strengthen the ties ^^

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

Stannis posted:

I imagine and I press well on the verb imagine, that risako and reicchi cheated in secret from school, it seems obvious. Rei broke several times with kaoru, and they did not find themselves by miracle on a square and decided to deceive kaoru.

Reiichi didn't break up "several times" with Kaoru. I seem to remember someone mention it was mistranslated.

Actually, he rejected her several times, but finally caved in and eventually married her, for unknown reasons. I suspect Risako pushed him to.

Thanks for the explanation but in the end it doesn't change anything, reiichi rejected it because it was certainly with risako but risako for some reason did not want it to be known... we will need to know the details but the author probably planned to talk about this part of the story between risako and reicchi from school until now.

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

None of that proves for certain what Risako has done in the past or is doing now, or what her motivations might be, or what she plans to do in the future in regard to Kaoru, Reiichi, or the relationship between the two.

We agree that nothing proves but the author does not have fun giving lots of small clues, to make appear characters in the background who like risako seem to be quite normal.

If you're enjoying how this story works, more power to you--you're obviously not the only one.

It's theoretically possible that all the uncertainty and open questions about the characters, their past history, and their motivations is part of a cunning master plan on the part of the author which shall, sooner or later, be revealed.

I, however, have never gotten the impression that readers are in the hands of a master craftsperson of narrative who is both withholding information and placing subtle clues in order to create mystery and suspense about the emotional lives of the characters--quite the opposite, in fact.

I'll return to an incident/connection that I previously mentioned but that no one else has remarked upon yet:

In the most recent chapter, Risako tells Kaoru that she has not seen Reiichi since their wedding.

But after Kaoru's fall down the steps, Risako returns Kaoru's cellphone to Uta while explaining that she was at the scene of the accident. As Risako must have known would happen, Uta immediately told Kaoru that Risako had returned the phone and Kaoru (at that point still suffering from short-term memory loss) realizes that Reiichi and Risako were together.

So did the author simply forget that Kaoru would have every reason to know that Risako and Reiichi were together when she had her accident?

If not, what possible reason would Risako have for lying now about something that, at the time she assumed everybody already knew? (She says to Uta, "Didn't you hear from Reiichi? I was there when Kaoru injured herself.")

Even if Reiichi told Risako that Kaoru didn't remember anything about the accident itself (and therefore hoped to avoid explaining what they were doing together that day), she already had told Uta directly that she was there.

That's just the most obvious example of why I think this author is not carefully controlling the flow of information to readers to achieve an overall effect, but is just winging it, and not very smoothly, either.

Precisely I rebound on what you say risako knows very well all that, but she doesn't say the word too much by letting her interlocutor give her the information that allows her to lie better.
Of course she knows that kaoru fell when she saw them, she is not as naive as reiichi, of course she knows that kaoru does not say what she thinks. When she talks with uta of course she knows she has to go to her mother's house but she is so strong in lying that she is mistaken for a naive woman when all the information proves that she is manipulative and that since school.
There too when she calls kaoru she knows very well that she has been in a weak position since uta's departure (besides uta tells her when they meet her that kaoru is not as strong as she looks, risako answers with a little smile, I know you worry, I will take care of her lol).
and then the beginning of the other or at the time the dialogue seemed completely banal but today when you read between the lines and guess that risako lies as she breathes it is even more obvious

And then the author makes it appear at the end of the chapter as the fall https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/my_unrequited_love_ch24#28
and then the beginning of the other or at the time the dialogue seemed completely banal but today when you read between the lines and guess that risako lies as she breathes it is even more obvious https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/my_unrequited_love_ch25#9

Also when reicchi has to leave suddenly for a long business trip....
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/my_unrequited_love_ch07#8
for finally https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/my_unrequited_love_ch10#28
I believe that we can no longer talk about doubt but certainty, the only missing element are the details of this deception and how close risako and reicchi are.

No no no its not your faults risako … https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/my_unrequited_love_ch11#14 Because she is the one who asked reiichi to join her....see you soon https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/my_unrequited_love_ch11#15
which means that reicchi tries to see her as often as possible and despite this serious accident of kaoru…
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/my_unrequited_love_ch11#17 Kaoru was never an amnesiac she lied. Her tremors prove it.
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/my_unrequited_love_ch11#20 And all this passage shows that she would see herself as uta's sister, she likes her and alludes to another chapter...

All that to say that I'm not far from the truth and that the turning point of the series is now.

last edited at Oct 2, 2019 4:58PM

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

I think that Risako and Reiichi had an "affair" ever since high-school. As in, they were and still are sex-friends.

Why Reiichi would cave in and go out and even marry Kaoru (even though I don't think he ever loved her) is still unexplained, but I'm starting to feel that he did it at the instigation of Risako, or at least with her blessing.

I imagine and I press well on the verb imagine, that risako and reicchi cheated in secret from school, it seems obvious. Rei broke several times with kaoru, and they did not find themselves by miracle on a square and decided to deceive kaoru.
Kaoru says in the last chapter that risako is the best liar she knows and therefore she has already suspected her and seen her work.
I imagine lol that kaoru by risako or by reii will learn everything, that it has been doing for years that its hard and there, I can't even imagine the shock it will take!

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

Risako is often in the background when she is in the class with reicchi she says nothing, she is the only one of the 3 girlfriends to arrive last and as luck would have it in her absence her baby talk, her presence with reicchi in front of kaoru, that she brings the cell phone to the Hospital and gives it a uta,or the little discussion full of tenderness or she says mischievously that she will take care of kaoru ... to finally get to the fall or it will come to light with its real face. Its already starting with the phone shot and its going to continue because risako wants to have an appointment with her.

Once again, all of that suggests (as opposed to proves) that there’s something suspicious about Risako. Taken as a whole, the details (including Reiichi’s behavior) suggest that Risako and Reiichi are (or were) having an affair.

None of that proves for certain what Risako has done in the past or is doing now, or what her motivations might be, or what she plans to do in the future in regard to Kaoru, Reiichi, or the relationship between the two.

We agree that nothing proves but the author does not have fun giving lots of small clues, to make appear characters in the background who like risako seem to be quite normal.
For example why did risako not give the kaoru laptop to reiichi and want to bring it back itself? it really seems that she wants to talk one way or another a kaoru .. Is she in love with kaoru? I do not think because risako seems to have the character necessary to confess his feelings a kaoru has less than as usual kaoru did the one that did not notice anything as with uta ...
In short yes are assumptions but the goal of the author is to give clues, there is no chance that risako and reiichi do not cheat together or so we reach the 5th dimension.
We can still say certain things without making mistakes, the author clearly shows that kaoru is trying to maintain a couple that is ghostly.
We talk about it in one or two chapters but hey if we can not imagine anything with so many incices and details I think we must stop reading manga ^^

And I don't say anything I suppose, but with what the author gives us, it's still realistic.

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

Be careful I only assume, I don't impose anything but there is a chapter where at some point he wants to ask uta what are his feelings towards kaoru and finally changes his mind.

This is a prime example of what I was talking about: Reiichi was certainly going to ask Uta about something, probably something about Kaoru (he starts by saying, “Ka—“), but we don’t know what he was going to say because he stops and then says, “Ah, forget it. It’s nothing.” That’s it.

The “Uta’s feelings about Kaoru” part is certainly possible, maybe even likely, but it is an assumption.

(By the way, I don’t mean to criticize anyone’s English, but I’ve noticed that you have a habit of using male pronouns when referring to female characters, which can make your posts confusing.)

When I say antagonist I exaggerate but as I say above I reviewed in detail the apparitions that the author has perfectly dissipated with it.
Risako is often in the background when she is in the class with reicchi she says nothing, she is the only one of the 3 girlfriends to arrive last and as luck would have it in her absence her baby talk, her presence with reicchi in front of kaoru, that she brings the cell phone to the Hospital and gives it a uta,or the little discussion full of tenderness or she says mischievously that she will take care of kaoru ... to finally get to the fall or it will come to light with its real face. Its already starting with the phone shot and its going to continue because risako wants to have an appointment with her.

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

Be careful I only assume, I don't impose anything but there is a chapter where at some point he wants to ask uta what are his feelings towards kaoru and finally changes his mind.

This is a prime example of what I was talking about: Reiichi was certainly going to ask Uta about something, probably something about Kaoru (he starts by saying, “Ka—“), but we don’t know what he was going to say because he stops and then says, “Ah, forget it. It’s nothing.” That’s it.

The “Uta’s feelings about Kaoru” part is certainly possible, maybe even likely, but it is an assumption.

(By the way, I don’t mean to criticize anyone’s English, but I’ve noticed that you have a habit of using male pronouns when referring to female characters, which can make your posts confusing.)

Sorry and you're right I write a lot and quickly so I make mistakes, besides I'm helped by a translator and proofreader ^^
In fact in this manga there are many small sentences that seem harmless but rather we realize that there are details that confirm or invalidate certain actions, reactions or define a little more the character of certain characters.