A title like that and no sex?

Oh well, adorable as hell.

There was hardcore Tail touching though.

Given their trajectory in the last panel, there's more opportunity for Lion to get further hot and bothered...

Parody of "Yotsuba to" ?

Probably not enough to warrant a tag. It's not quite as much as Suwakoto.

This precisely.

Anyone else got that Yotsuba& feel from reading this?

It's definitely inspired from Yotsuba. That scene with the car is a direct reference. The titles might even be the same.

They're not the same. "Yotsuba&" and "Together with Hecaa-chan" are both pretty literal translations of the original titles, but TwH's title definitely continues the Yotsuba vibe...

Even deeper than that, though, I would suggest not trying to label places like Dynasty as one group's or the other's. It's quite counterproductive to argue against groups and you should focus on the opinions instead.

I generally agree with that practice, for casual arguments among friends anyway. But in that post I was responding to the claim that "transphobia does not happen here," itself a response to a trans confession of feeling unwelcome. The point I wanted to get at was that even if that skeptic personally challenges any explicit transphobia on the site, there is still a larger context to why someone might feel rejection and sometimes disgust even from allies (most notably so in clashes around futa). I labeled that feeling as being in a cis space because I wanted to emphasize how cis norms become seen as natural to yuri and certainly not political, while outside perspective can be freely treated as those of a political agenda or alien culture. That said, I like Dynasty's community and agree that identity politics are not necessary to draw upon for every dispute, but then again, sometimes you're not arguing with friends.

Trying to be generous to UranusAndNeptuneAreJustCousins's position, I took his comment as less "transphobia doesn't happen here" and more "transphobia is largely mitigated here". If it's the latter, he's probably taking a progressive rather than revolutionary position on social change, meaning you're more likely to disagree on his approach to solving social justice problems rather than his being transphobic in this specific instance.

I'd probably argue that Dynasty's at a trans-tolerant enough point that it'd be hard to bring it to a more tolerant position without certain structural changes to things like cis-normative tagging trends and deeper conversations on what sex and gender structurally are (and maybe deeper discussions of how we use stereotypes). Problem with that is you'd have a slim chance of getting the trans people around here to agree on some of those topics, let alone everyone else...

"I was avoiding dynasty for awhile all-together because I thought this was a manga site for queer cis women and it was best for me to not invade their space." This is the main thing that concerned me, and I still feel like there's an inkling of that this last reply. Actions and mindsets that directly remove yourself from conversations because it's "not my place" only serve to create rifts. I'm not really sure I can rectify this paragraph with the previous one other than by taking the progressive stance of, "let people bicker with each other and it'll work itself out."

Those are some interesting surveys. Thanks for sharing,

Yeah, they were conducted throughout the years so I've nothing to prove them other than my word :/

Fluff aspersions aside, I stand by the rest of the argument, and I claim the "many" as mostly just anyone who's argued on this thread and the other recent thread that dynasty and most other hosts are primarily cis-queer spaces - so I dunno, maybe the 'many' is 3 other people at least, and the rest of the 'many' is an extension of my optimistic imagination

I think the main point I'm getting at is that from my experience, the "primarily cis-queer spaces" might better be defined as "primarily cis-straight men with cis-lesbian blurring spaces". Even deeper than that, though, I would suggest not trying to label places like Dynasty as one group's or the other's. It's quite counterproductive to argue against groups and you should focus on the opinions instead. If you argue against a group of people, there will be people in that group who are on your side and you'll accidentally be throwing under the bus, vital allies that can change an opinion from within rather than trying to chip away at the psychological shielding groups tend to put up.

@frigidbones
Your perspective on the demographics of Dynasty are odd to me. Informal surveys show roughly equal representation of men and women in the community, and ironically, from my observations over the years, cis men are more interested in cute, fluffy stuff while cis women are more interested in porn and realistic(ish) drama (I haven't seen enough explicit discussion of the topic to have developed a generalization for trans interests). Given that I don't much venture beyond Dynasty for my manga reading, I'm earnestly curious about whether the "many" you've mentioned is an observed shared impression of Dynasty or an extension of your own opinion.

I should note that I haven't actually read the first one yet, which probably explains the situation better than what I've come up with.

Not really. The first one doesn't have much of Marisa in it at all, to the point that she might have been oblivious to the feelings of Patchouli and Alice. You should read it since it's a short read (since there's very little text) and the lack of dialogue and emotional manipulation by Marisa makes the tone less intense and more quirky.

Why does she have antlers..? Female moose do not have antlers.

Long story short, male moose turned into moose-girl. (canon answer)

This one's a bit...disjoined? compared to previous

Pretty sure the rest will be from now on. The two panel shorts were all released prior on Pixiv with the new molester-Yuuka short tacked onto the book release.

What's the song Junko set as Hecatia's ring tone? The onomatopoeia in the credits somehow resemble Garasu no hanazono, but that might just be my tone-deafness coming through.

Pretty sure it's this: http://www.animelyrics.com/game/sf2game/ronriiurufu.htm

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I like to think of this as the not-so-secret relationship between two sukeban.

Unfortunately, our dear royal penguin doesn't understand the concept of business yuri.

I didn't realize business yuri typically included members publicly fingering each other...

Hey now, everyone. All's well that ends well. People got their full translation, my blog got the biggest single day boost since its conception (no such thing as bad publicity?), and shadesan drove home that you should read the credits page.

Is there really much size to be saved by losslessly optimizing current images? They should already be optimized pretty well when they are released by the scanlation group. There are probably a few outliers that weren't exported properly, but not sure if it is worth re-processing the entire collection for those outliers.

Just to see, I compressed http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/kase_san_ch24 using "FileOptimizer" to get a quick idea of how much space could be saved. Turned out that it compressed to about half the original size. My guess is, unless someone's around to tell you about optimization, you don't know about it, and there are a lot of amateur editors who are uploading to Dynasty (myself included).

I want to believe this is non-fiction.

GAAAAAAAHHHH Thank god I actually saw the raws

By the way, what exactly is Hyaku-Medama?

Translates to "Hundred Eyeballs". I can't find anything online about it being a real thing, though...

Hi,

I'm not sure if I'm stepping into sour territory with this. I was looking for the yuri series that was done by a homophobic sacanlator (I remember them using "feggit" as an insult in the credit pages). In the comments we were wondering why this scanlator had picked up a series that seemed very yuri and were confirming if the scanlator was actually homophobic or they made a joke in poor taste.

I'm sorry for not having much detail on this. I remember liking the series itself but can't remember much of its details. I was wondering maybe someone else had picked it up. I'd really appreciate any help.

Thanks.

http://dynasty-scans.com/series/gal_and_otaku_cant_understand_each_other

Stage 1: Yuuka
Stage 2: Sakuya
Stage 3: Nitori
Stage 4: Flandre
Stage 5: Patchouli
Final Stage: Alice
Extra Stage: Mima

Is she too tsundere to openly go for a walk with her...? XD

More like it's her nature to be mean to others. Yudaoshan probably depicts the abusive relationship between these two the best.

so how does typesetting stuff that was translated on booru work? do you ask for permission somewhere (where?) or is it fine to just go ahead and typeset as long as you credit the translator in the credits? actually, how do you tell who translated it in the first place?

Fucked if I know how it's supposed to be done. I always just figured if it's on sites like Danbooru, it's fair use or something. If you log on to Danbooru, there's the option to look at notes history, and I just credit whoever makes the notes.

Meaningless cirno x marisa scene.

Implying any yuri is meaningless...

I feel like the subplot with Yukari was referencing something I'm not aware of.

My only guess is that Yohane's Yukari is in love with Yuyuko as shown in, er, "previous" doujins. Whether it's mutual or not is up in the air, but most likely it's not.

I figured Yukari wanted chocolate from Reimu, and she told Marisa about Valentine's Day so Marisa would end up flustering Reimu.

Is there a way to access what you have? I'd personally be interested in working on DMT and more Tamamusi if no one else lays claim to them, and I'd be interested in at least looking at the other stuff that's there.

Shynaku do you always take manga you scanlate so seriously? You act as if it was the perfect work and anything said against it is personal attack on you for translating it.

No. Look at the posts on the previous things I've done and you'll see that I don't make it a habit of defending the quality of the original work. I originally spoke up because PaleRider directly misrepresented what happened in the story. "It's okay if you don't find that type of humor funny, but address it properly without relying on misrepresenting character motivations." Please don't misrepresent people.

But here I'm still confused: in a conversation about the moral compass of the dad, why did you bring up alternative situations to put the character in?

Because Chantelune isn't arguing about moral compass of the dad. It is forum. 99% people comment here without even reading last comment. Sure PaleRider started a conversation about how they dislike dad, but that doesn't mean that is the only thing that can be said in this thread until this topic is over. And in that conversation ergzay said something that Chantelune felt like commenting on without going into whole "dad is bad" talk. Is that is really so hard to understand? It really feels like you just look out for someone to confront and vent on. And the most annoying this is that you attack Chantelune for not discussing the "original point" while you ignored PaleRider respond to you which clearly stats that they disagree with you and don't really care about your opinion. It really is as if you didn't care who it is as long as you can argue with them.

I have nothing to add in response to PaleRider that ergzay hasn't already said, so there's no point in my voicing it. ergzay didn't say exactly what I would have, but unless PaleRider makes another response, there's nothing more to say. And I don't get the impression that Chantelune's the type to make a comment without reading what they're responding to. I have nothing more to say to you at this time because you're turning the topic toward me and claims of my narcissism when what I really want to do is discuss why Chantelune said what they said, a discussion best served with the person who said it.

So, I think we're mostly on the same page, then, right? We both have specific problems with specific events of Tamamusi's, but we would both say she is, at the very least, a good writer and that we both like the overall presentation of Yuri Otaku Family, yes?

But here I'm still confused: in a conversation about the moral compass of the dad, why did you bring up alternative situations to put the character in? It could be a fun experiment to see if we could figure out a funnier scenario for the dad to be in than the one Tamamusi used, but it was irrelevant to the topic at hand, so why mention it in the first place?

And no, I'm not criticizing the author's choice there. It's their work, they're free to drive the story the way they want and I had fun reading it, just that this part with the dad is not my favorite. That's just my personnal opinion on it, nothing more. In matter of fictions, every character is as smart and perceptive as the author make them and want them to be. Just because I say "that character is dumb because he could have done this and that instead" doesn't mean that I consider the author to be dumb for not choosing other options. Just that the dad had other options than just sitting in there and was so trapped with no way out. Author deciding to go with that one development doesn't mean there were no other options to that situation and I don't see how discussing them is insulting the author there. ^^

But that's a critique... You're pointing out flaws (things you think could be improved) in the narrative. This doesn't mean that Tamamusi's a bad writer overall, it just means that she's not perfect. For instance, there are times when I'm reading Cheerful Amnesia and I find the protagonist to be a bit too cheerful that breaks my immersion. That said, I'd use that series as an example when arguing that Tamamusi is currently the best yuri comedy writer we have because it showcases how good her writing is in general.

And just to be perfectly clear, I never said "author should have", nor implied it. It was "dad could have", knowing full well that this is how the author wanted things to go. My bad if I wasn't clear, but I hoped the various emotes around my reply were indicative enough that I was discussing this on a light tone rather than a dead serious and criticizing one.

Then what was your point in stating alternative scenarios? To me, it looked like you were creating other situations that may have improved the narrative, but I'm honestly confused as to why you would create new situations and immediately state that they have no relevance to the topic. In other words, what were you hoping to add to the conversation about whether the dad character is a morally good character when you wrote, "Many possibilities other than 'let's stay hidden all night in there and risk a misunderstanding if I try to sneak out in the middle of the night and end up waking them up.' ^^; "?

Idk how you reached that conclusion since Chantelune wasn't putting any blame on Tamamusi writing, rather was suggesting that dad had a lot different options rather than just stay hidden once his 1 attempt to run away failed. They didn't critic the humor but rather pointed out that dad as a character still had different ways to solve the situation. Ever more since Chantelune wasn't even the person who misunderstood father action and critic him based on that misunderstanding in the first place, but rather were responding to what ergzay said about how father did everything he could to escape.

Tamamusi chose to put the dad in a misunderstanding position rather than any of the situations Chantelune suggested for the purpose of light drama and humor, making Chantelune's suggestions a critique of what Tamamusi did, not the dad character.

It goes like this: The dad is 'stuck' in the closet through unfortunate events and lack of imagination on the character's part. This was a situation and character design choice by Tamamusi. You can criticize the dad and say you don't like his character because of his incompetence, but PaleRider didn't do that, instead misrepresenting his character's motivations. Chantelune's response was a collection of suggestions that fit the dad's bumbler character but weren't used by the writer, which ends up being a critique of Tamamusi's writing style rather than the character himself.