This manhwa seems to be really interesting now.

http://imgur.com/a/ihYph
"If you really love someone as much as Seju claims to then all you want is for this person to be happy."

A good excuse for a loser to give up on someone. lol

I don't like seeing her stressed and insecure.

I want to see Sungji breaking up with Sumin since I want to know if she has a limit.

You don't need to tell me, Ken. Thanks.

Ken is always right. LoL xD Okay, bye Sia.

Always right your ass.

@Ken

Well I am not gone yet. Lol. You really wanna know? Ah sorry I am so emotional. well.. Libra lol. Its okay. I can tell you here if you want. Hurricane ken looolllllll. Nice. Psstt dont tell my crush.

You don't need to tell me, Ken. Thanks.

It looks like the two of you are speaking completely different languages XD

xD.

I should have asked her who's my Indonesian gf before she's gone. lol

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@Ken
Never in my whole life I read such a reply I do not understand even 5%. I only have a few comments chatting to you on mgg. I do not have any other social network connecting to you other than dynasty. Is fantasizing other people's comments a habit of yours or something. Okay, bye and take care.

I don't want her to move on since I'm pretty sure her life will be worse if she does.

Sia ue
Because Sumin is still in love with her?

Because she is still in love with Sumin.

Isn't there something sad about not moving on/not being able to move on when the person you love has moved on (hypothetically speaking since Sumin probably has not)?

Yes, there is. Seju fans should just stop denying this one fact about her not moving on/not being able to move on. Because Seju still can hold on to Sumin, she can't find her reason to stop doing that. She has to wait for a day when she no longer can hold on to Sumin anymore. When that day comes, she may be able to let go of Sumin because at least she has a reason to give up.

@Ken

Wrong and wrong. One enemy is too much, 1000 friends too little. She has so many enemies than comrades, right?

3 enemies (her 3 stupid brothers. Sorry, I do not think there's a need to count their whole clans and their pets) and 2 comrades where one of her comrades is holding all the money.

I am confused 'cause I have to combine two stories into one.
She left and did not let her explain everything.

Her explanation is that she was drunk.

She even don't read her mail on twitter. Argh.. Wait .. does she have a twitter account? Maybe weibo.. :'D

I have no idea about things that were not presented in the manhwa.

This is not the part we talked about early on. Give me another proof with screenshots.

That the part I was talking about. Sorry if you were talking about another thing.

I've said I am confused, having to combine 2 stories into one and this frustrates me. When I say "she, her, and her" makes me drunk.

Then don't replace their names by the pronouns anymore.

I want them to talk about her secret, her sins, and to clarify about. And most importantly.... (I am not gonna tell here).

There is no secret, sin, or clarification that can make Sumin come back to her again.

I suggest her to open her mailbox.

What's inside the mailbox? However, please suggest her to do only things existing in the manhwa.

"her rules" that fool others. "her own games" pretending to be others.

Whom did she fool? Whom did she pretending to be?

Though she is very surprised to know the truth, but she will never hurt her. For example, when she said that she was single and suddenly she has a girlfriend who has been woven for a year (This is an example, and just joking, but this is not what she meant to talk about). No one will hurt her. Especially Seju. She will never do that.

Why did back then Seju hurt Sumin? It's because Seju was drunk, because Seju was so sad, or because Sumin acted so unreasonable, right? "Seju will never hurt Sumin again" because Seju will never be drunk or sad again, and Sumin will never act so unreasonable again? If that's what you believe, please forgive Sumin for not being able to see the future like you do.

Not embarrassing. In the part where she lost Sungji for the first time, she still looks cool.

It's embarrassing seeing Seju letting Sungji act so cool in front of her.

Well.. Sorry about thaaaattt xD You know I did it on purpose. I am so roflmfao as I wrote it.

I don't mind. xD

So actually you want her to move on or not? On one side you told her to move on and just wanna be friends, then fooling her, on the other hand you said that "I find moving on from someone whom you are still in love with is a very bad-and-stupid move". You are, as always, hard to understand.

I don't want her to move on since I'm pretty sure her life will be worse if she does.

Her own PTSD is still normal, at least she just focus on herself and don't hurt others (just Sumin). And PTSD is better than Psycho who is lied to people and playing with them just for fun. No Deals with Fam!

lol

Do not you just laugh.Give an opinion or speechless?

Who in the world could blame Seju for having PTSD? lol Btw, what is your definition of PTSD?

The only thing that loses its coolness is you in my eyes.

I don't mind this either.

But you still look cool enough to keep someone in love with you.

Is that "someone" my Indonesian girlfriend? xD

Do you know the term "hate but love"?

It's another form of Emotional Masochism. lol

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@Nora

Ah.. then you live somewhere near me XD

Nooo, girls living around my place are unlikable. T T

Yes, you were..*lesbo's hug*

Kyaaaaa, I got a lesbo's hug. :'D

@Ken

/( / . /Y / . / )/ Do not be mad, I censored it xD

I won't. :'D

Some more than one and i call this a lot

Moleguy and Seju's father love her, so you will say " A lot of people love her" too, right?

She is gone from her life without say anything, just run away. Maybe More easily understood if i say.. she blocked her from her and by her? Well..
I am confused.. Or drunk.. idk

I really don't get what you were saying here. :'D

31 or 36? I am senile and no can do math. I'm not that smart to figure things out and this one I can't figure out. I totally forgot .. Please mercy me till 31/36. LoL Peace man

31

There never was "one last time" since she left her, in the part we are talking about. Tell me where and when, what day, minute, and seconds, give me the screenshots.

In the end of the second arc, chapter 55 I guess. She asked Sumin for her one last wish.

Cheating is wrong, but we are not talking about cheating. We are talking about "one last time" to talk about something until it becomes clear.

There's no such a scene where Seju was saying she wanted to talk to Sumin to clear things up.

You say "It's not right to cheat on Sungji again." Sungji forgive her. Why Sumin didn't do? (not to cheat but to talk)

What do you want them to talk about?

Before she think that "it hurt her so badly", she must think "who started this". Who started being dishonest in the first place.

Which of Sumin's action you were calling "dishonest"?

She just follows her to play with her rules and her own game.

What are you calling "her rules"? And what is "her own game"?

And since you are talking about afraid yeah she must be afraid of something really (forget about hurt, not related), maybe we just need to express our thoughts to clarify what she feared as an exchange. Yeah you know, We have different brains even though mine is smaller, but still can be used.

Sumin wanted to be loved, but she didn't want to love anyone because she was afraid of getting hurt again. If back then she wasn't in love with Seju, she wouldn't have been hurt so much by Seju.

Seju not over-thinking. It named "business analysis" that's why she can make hello studio company bigger 'cause she have her "analysis" in her life. About Sumin's love life of course she want to know, she loves Sumin!!! She won't asks, She will ruin that relationship with her way. Just wait for the play date.

She is losing to an inexperienced cutie, Sungji. How embarrassing!

(I adopted this from bahasa's grammar and very difficult for me to find the right words, this is a slang, maybe you can ask your gf since she is Indonesian too)

My Indonesian girlfriend. xD Sounds cute.

She doesn't rush, you don't think about the past 10 years do you?
You are not worth suggesting my F+ cup who has waited 10 years for "no need to hurry" she already understood. Sia ue-san.. You piss me off!!

Move on? How? For what? What is the motivation to move on? She just got attacked recently, and her father is still in the hospital. Is she in a mood to move on or something? I highly doubt that she can move on. Even if in the end of the story, she herself decided to move on, I would believe that she would fail and come back to Sumin again. I find moving on from someone whom you are still in love with is a very bad-and-stupid move.

Her own PTSD is still normal, at least she just focus on herself and don't hurt others (just Sumin). And PTSD is better than Psycho who is lied to people and playing with them just for fun. No Deals with Fam!

lol

Like I said I'm not smart enough to do this. I don't even know that ending of manhwa can be called as a change. 'cause manhwa comes and goes but the user is always exist.

It can be called "a change" because suddenly, a character in the manhwa lost her cool. The other characters' behaviors started changing so suddenly as well. So are most of the Seju fans' ways of comments.

LoL... tired..

:'D

Note: Sorry about my english. Not perfect, but I've tried hard..

It's okay.

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I know right away cuz I only react to A- or F+. :'D

heheh.. are you talking about your exams or boobs still ?

No, not my exams, my exams are graded from 1 to 5. xD

you were missed ~

Yeayyy, I was missed. :'D

I don't hate her anymore. Her F+ cup creeps me out. :'D

How dyou know her cup size?

I wonder.. is it by mere eye balling or experince XD

Ahaha.. Or sth else which sia ue nvr shared us here...

I know right away cuz I only react to A- or F+. :'D

Yeah I know. Her boobies are bigger than my ambitions in life. :'D

xD

A lot of people hate her

Some people from her family hate her. No one in the world can help her. She has to grow up and go against them. And I think she is doing it now.

and Sumin who tells her she'll understand her the most, even gone also.

Gone to where? She is dating her 31st girlfriend.

She just need Sumin's pat and talk to her for the last time.

Sumin did grant her last wish, right? How many "one last time" is she going to ask from Sumin? It's not right to cheat on Sungji again.

But Sumin is Sumin, she will always be a coward. Looks so cool but a coward.

It hurt her so badly that she was so afraid of being hurt again.

Seju should stop over-thinking so much about Sumin's dating life since Sumin won't dump Sungji and come back to her just because she asks Sumin to come back to her. She doesn't need to be in a rush to move on either. Just takes things easily as before. Tries to overcome her own PTSD, and deals with her own family issues. That's how she has been living her life. Nothing will change. The only thing that change is that the manhwa is ending.

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@Ken

She won't. She is beautiful from birth so she will not be able to say anything to you. So stop hating my Seju you can hate me instead ;')

I don't hate her anymore. Her F+ cup creeps me out. :'D

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I will burn TG's house down if Seju moves on.

@Ken

Yeayyyy All Hail Ken. :'D

Yeayy :'D

Then your sentences "Have you ever thought that perhaps there was something wrong with the way you interpreted my comment above? xD" have no purpose? you just want to make me sound like a dumb (well its true but LOL xD)

The purpose has vanished for some reason. xD

OK. I will keep my eyes on you okay, Don't hate my Seju too much okay, Compete in a healthy way Okay.

No, I will never stop hating her unless she tells me the brand names of the beauty products she's been using so far.

Thanks for saving my face Sia-San. :'D

No need to thank me, Ken. After all I only meant to save my joke. lol

And actually I need you to clear this up, is that true or not on your side, Whether I'm your friend or I'm not?

Honestly, you were not my friend until the moment you said I was your friend. xD

And above all, I really want to apologize to you.

I don't know what you are apologizing for, so I'm gonna assume that you were dissing me a lot in front of your PC's screen.

Ah exagerate. Who read wdtfs in mgg not even reach 1000 people. Lol

I'm glad to know that I'm your x-th friend where x < 1000. :'D

Also, I will not visit dynasty until mid-July. Make Nora yours before I'm back, okay? xD

@Ken

Can be true since my english is so fuvk. But what i conclude from your words is.. "you did not miss me cause you are too busy (Up here i'm right, right?), but now you miss me, Even though it's just a little (Am I wrong here? Maybe here is my fault you mean?)" ==> my "heart attack" and my "thanks" is for your "a bit" and your "miss" am i wrong? please correct me.

No correction needed. :'D

If this is the reason you hate her, I will not say anything then. Women... ╮(￣▽￣)╭

They were the only reasons I could come up with. lol

Here, i reaaally clueless.. Can you say more than this? you know already that i am stupid isn't you? you make me sound more idiot than the real me. O God..

Haha. :'D It's just a joke you're not familiar with. That's all.

I'm not your level Sia-san, you're too clever for me. But the real reason in my heartbeat is.. that I do not want to hurt your eyes, your mind, and your heart with my uneducated words, my stupid brain, and my insolent tongue. You are my first friend here in Dynasty Scans and i really like you okay.

Not true at all. Thanks, you are so kind. :'D That's so sweet of you to say that I was your first friend on dynasty in spite of that our first time talking is on mgg and I'm your #1000+ friend there. lol

Btw, Ken, why don't you defend her? There's no way I could stand a chance against you. Your DFSB is way too strong. lol

I was so busy, I didn't have time to miss you. But now I miss you a bit though. xD And thanks. :'D

I had a mild heart attack all of a sudden. xD Thanks. :'D

Have you ever thought that perhaps there was something wrong with the way you interpreted my comment above? xD

And Sia-san,, please do not hate Seju too much.

Can't help. Who asks her to be taller and prettier than me? T T Not only that, her hair is naturally pink. I have to dye my hair if I want it to be pink, you know? I hate her to death. lol

You know you breaks my heart?.

Ah, sorry. Then here you are, 502 super glue. xD

What a waste of chapter. Sumin is still doing Sumin.

Playing the overly possessive "ex" friend towards Seju.

So we can conclude now that gaji has extended this story no? Painfully so.

All I want is for Seju to get the hell out of there and stop enabling this BSing behavior of Sumin. It's her fault for empowering her misguided alpha lion thing. I don't plan to over analyze anything because this is clear as day.

Sumin calling the doctor and taking care of the sick Seju are totally ignored. Her stopping Nami, whom she knows Seju doesn't like her much, from annoying Seju is considered as " Playing the overly possessive "ex" friend towards Seju". Clear as hell.

I should stop acting like a Sumin fan already, otherwise, I would call you guys out for your every single comment since I personally find it greatly unreasonable and exaggerated.

@Ken

Ehehehehhh.. Stay cool as usual. I mean.. You are not missing me are you? I feel like something is missing from your voice tone. Well, then. Hope you success in everything you do. :'D

I was so busy, I didn't have time to miss you. But now I miss you a bit though. xD And thanks. :'D

@yoonie

When you broke up, you broke up. The relationship has been dead the day they said it.

The fact that Sumin had a "clean cut” with her other 29 exes proves that she has this basic common sense. Do you know if Seju has one?

Yes, the truth is actually serious as it sounds. Sumin only faced her deepest, darkest thoughts that are she still loved Seju, still cared for her when Nammi knocked some sense into her. However, even in that inner debate, she was still in denial until that image of Seju appeared. What does that mean? Means for 10 years long, to Sumin, its a revenge, she think she masking that care, that love by thinking of it as a revenge. Yes, Sumin admitted she cared for Seju but masking it as a revenge. Does it make them sound nicer? No, why? Cause she would play back and forth between being nice and being cruel. No, scratch that, she was never nice to Seju, even if she cared, she didnt show it, she only showed up to her house when Seju had a family meeting, had sex to make sure she was ok and mentally told her: well, I was here, still here. Care?

You are not supposed to care for someone who cheated on you.

Did Seju feel cared for from Sumin for 10 years. No, she didnt. That's why Seju was so surprised in the supermarket when Sumin said she's worried. So in Seju's perspective, its not care, its a revenge? Completely, totally. So as a Seju fan, why would we want to feel thankful for that 10 years with Sumin? When Seju herself didnt feel cared, loved or anything? Only a sex buddy and a mindset that she'll come back because she always does and she even wished to be hated more so that the girl would come back? The only thing that should be appreciated for that 10 years is that she is still alive or that she got to be with Sumin so readers can empathy her for that 10 years but isnt that the purpose?

And you are not supposed to complain about you not feeling cared from someone whom you cheated on either, you know?

She made a revenge and knew Seju wouldnt object because Seju was the one cheating.

She made a revenge because she knew Seju wouldn’t object it.

And yes, that's right. That's my point. She never has one so at least Sumin got to do sth while being the one got cheated while Seju has none so who gives her the right to be angry at your ex when you got to do all those things you did to release your stress?

The one who gave Sumin “the card” as well as “the right to be angry at her ex” was Seju. It's her own fault/choice/fate.

Since you asked Seju fans if we have considered Sumin is like that because of Seju, so have you ever thought Seju smirked, flirted, playful, pushing Sumin to Sungji was because of Sumin herself? Because of her coldness and harsh words?

No, I don’t see any action from Sumin that could force Seju to smirk, flirt, and push Sumin to Sungji. I say it’s her own way to have fun. And it came from her false belief that she had an everlastingly toxic relationship with Sumin.

Its a circle without end when both actively contributed to it. The most important question is who began this circle first? Seju or Sumin? Let's be honest. Sumin might be the one intiated this whole thing with her first ever intention of revenging and coming back for that.

The one who started the circle was Seju imo. The moment you say to your ex that you will wait for them until you die, you make your “clean cut” breakup “unclean cut”.

Again, how does this make Seju fans feel appreciated with that 10 years when Sumin always wanted to move on? That Seju might also get dried and long dead if she got luckier on her relationship?

I thought Seju fans wanted Seju to be dried and long dead as soon as possible. lol I honestly wonder why Seju fans don’t share the same sentiment as Seju. She always prefers Sumin coming back to her. Her definition of “worse” is the same as mine, don’t you know?

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@Ken

Hello there Sia Ue-San. How's your final Sweetie?

Yes, they are all finished. But I still have to work on a report, and I still have one more important presentation. I will be still busy until mid-July. Hope you have fun on this forum. :'D

@yoonie
Before Sungji appeared? xD iirc, she appeared in the first chapter and in the very first panel, no? lol Kidding, I know what you meant. If Sumin left Seju for real, things would have been worse. They might have been just an acquaintance to each other for the rest of their lives, or Seju might have been nothing but a cheating girlfriend to Sumin forever. I see too little hope for Sumin to miraculously forgive Seju given that Seju had no chance to do anything for Sumin.

Yeah, Sumin was the one who kept coming back. But if her coming back solely or mainly depended on herself, was there a need to ask Seju about what if she would come back to Seju again? Did this still not imply that Sumin couldn’t stop herself from going back to Seju if she knew that Seju was still waiting for her.

As a Seju fan, you are supposed to appreciate that 10 years. When we talk about 10 years Seju redeeming herself, or 10 years Sumin getting her revenge on her ex, it does sound so serious. But is the truth even half serious as it sounds? I find it unfair for Sumin because every single day during that 10 years was counted as Seju redeeming herself, while it was counted as Sumin purposely hurting her ex. Even when Seju was smirking, flirting, or teasing Sumin, this day would still add to Seju genuinely redeeming herself. Even the day when Sumin was doing her daily life such as working, sleeping, doing her own bathroom business lol, even when she went back to comfort Seju when Seju was back from meeting her family, even when Seju felt happy having Sumin by her side, or even when Sumin felt guilty for hurting Seju, this kind of day would still be counted as her intentionally torturing her ex, no? The longer they kept their toxic relationship, the more Seju could prove her loyalty, and the more Sumin could prove her jerkiness.

The fact that Seju cheating incident was still there, so was the fact that Sumin got scared. They are still there even to this day. It is still be able to hurt Sumin a lot if she gets reminded. However, you guys Seju fans always complained about why Sumin still hadn't forgotten all about those things yet? How could she? Her relationships always failed, also her women sometimes asked about her tattoo. It's not easy for her to just forget all of those and forgive Seju. Had Seju not cheat on her, would she go through all those failed relationships nor would she get those scars?

Well, tbh, the fear of her being dead for good is actually the reason why she treated her better xD, that's her own fear, not because of forgiveness or sth (which I know she already had, I know).

Do you care if your cheating girlfriend life is in danger or not? lol Would your cheating girlfriend dying fear you? Sumin genuinely cares about Seju.

So who used that famous cheating to torture Seju for 10 years? Who actually show off her own relationship to your ex just for the sake of revenging? Who is also the one got mad and verbally said bad things to Seju after Nammi thing reciting that incident as her own card? Isnt that her who played victim card?

Darling.

And who allowed that famous torture to happen for 10 years? Who actually took the advantage of Sumin’s revenge just for the sake of keeping her toxic relationship? Who was the one who instead of replying “No, we didn’t sleep together” but she replied “what if we did?” causing Sumin to get mad and verbally said bad things? I can also say Seju is playing a “being in danger” card to be able to stay with Sumin considering the fact that she is rich enough to hire 100 bodyguards to protect her. It’s simple, life is like that, if you were given a card that could benefit you, you would play it. Seju has never played a victim card or spoiled girlfriend card because she has never had one.

If redeeming herself means accepting 10 years being the side dish sex slave of someone who once loved you so much then, got discarded after thar person found someone better, isnt it way too cruel?

A successful Seju redeeming herself can only get her Sumin’s forgiveness, nothing more. If she wanted more than Sumin’s forgiveness, she had to work harder and on the right thing. If Seju wished her relationship with Sumin to start over again, she shouldn’t have spent this many years on just waiting, flirting, teasing, bedding, giving Sumin dating advice, etc, like that.

Like I said, I dont consider Sumin treated Seju like trash but I do think she has been unreasonable towards Seju for too long and take her for granted for too long.

Sumin didn’t plan to get revenge on Seju for 10 years. In average, Sumin had a new relationship every 4 months. When Sumin went into a relationship with someone, she always wanted her relationship to work out. If any of her relationships had worked out, she would have stopped hating Seju since long time ago.

@kami
Sumin deserves "the healing story" plot because she was not originally a pos. Why are Seju fans confidently saying that Seju deserves "the healing story" plot? It’s not because she was drunk before cheated, but it's mainly because her 10 years redeeming herself counts, no?

well, she always come back to Seju and in return Seju stayed by her side or rather became more obsessed to her

I could also say this: Seju was always willingly and anxiously waiting for Sumin to come back to her and hate her, so in return Sumin kept coming back to her or rather became more obsessed with coming back to her and hurting her.

I didn’t say that Sumin going through with her 29 exes had something to do with Seju. I meant if Sumin was a kind of person who treated her ex like trash, she could have done that to her other exes as well. Have you ever thought that maybe the one making Seju that trash was Seju herself?

@yoonie
What got worse? 10 years ago, she was a cheating girlfriend, and Sumin had already left her high and dry. These day, she is you guys’ most favorite character. :'D Also, Sumin had to talk to her when she wanted to cut ties with her. Moreover, Sumin even agreed with her one last wish. She also received Sumin’s forgiveness. No only that, Sumin let her live with her and has been taking care of her even that she realized that this was so wrong to Sungji, her current girlfriend. Again, what got worse?

Was it fare for Sumin? 10 years ago she got cheated and scared. Today, she is a jerk because she did hurt her cheating girlfriend. Every good thing she is doing to Seju these days is a must, so it doesn’t count?

I don’t think Sumin was playing a victim card, If she was playing a card, then it would be a Seju's spoiled girlfriend card. lol Was there a reason why she couldn't date anyone? Why couldn't she still be angry with Seju? After all, she was cheated not cheater. Seju had to act like a guilty party because that was how a guilty party should do to redeem herself.

Kyaaaaa, I finally sound like a Sumin fan. :’D

Hey, welcome back, lucky you, wdtfs is still going on but with a super slow progess (or maybe...nothing at all xD)

Do you know that sometimes your words hurt alot, lol? But its true anyway so I dont object xDDDDD. However, because of some of Sumin's action, she sometimes was like a jerk in my book, but Seju is no angel either so we're even, lollllll

Hi yoonie. :D Sorry, I know Sumin is a jerk, but have you guys ever wondered why she became one? Did all of her bad actions towards Seju really come from her personality? She does have her other 29 exes, and we never saw her going back to hurt any of them. Poor Sumin, she wouldn't have looked so much like a jerk had she let Seju wait and die alone. :P

wasting 10 years of your life waiting for someone that treats you like thrash.

I wish wdtfs had got another version in which Sumin had completely dumped Seju 10 years ago, and had let her wait until she died as she said to satisfy Seju fans.