Oh yeah, just a warnig about Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon, if anyone ever think about reading it, it's big, like reeeeealy big, bigger than Lord of The Rings, all books that composes the Lord of the Rings amounts to 1178 pages, the second volume of Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon is 1152 pages long, or at least is what TV Tropes says about it...

Aaaand there goes my intent to read it, I love reading but I've got much to watch/read

HEY you do think a lot....hummmm, I do agree I was like... "Hey maybe she faked her death" but...20 years? what kind of idiot is she to make Ai wait and be lonely for so long....if not well...the sister replacement...that's..I don't know..and yes no body was found? Well drowning in the sea makes it hard to be found I think.

I did consider she wanted to troll us all as well ,just cos she can.
The pimp thing...well...if she had depression she didn't wanna work right? so pimping is easy no?
xD
I just can't think anymore

Did they ever say it was 20 years? it never say anything about how long have passed, the only thing we have to measure time is the supposedly half-sister, and even if Ai aged like wine, she looks what, 30 years old at best? Really I'm not buying this bullshit that Tomo died and Ai stayed single for more than 20 years... (-3-)

I say we should demand a explanation from Amano. \ ( `A´ ) /

-Thinks hard- Well yes...I don't know why I'm using the 20 years number...then again... if she was depressed and shit wouldn't it be normal she just went and killed herself..but that sister...she has to be around 20 to be in College...so yes it was a damn long time,maybe ai is like 40 xD

We should ask her..ahhh I'm tempted to look for her twitter

I don't know what to think about this anymore, like Gale said if we assume Tomo was chronically depressed the story do makes a lot more sense, but the way it endend...

Can we really be sure that's not Tomo in the end? She being a pimp came out of nowhere, then she died and they never found the body, and years later a half-sister dressed like her, using the same type of glasses and that looks like a version a little older than her shows up, if they had the same mother it would be really unlikely but they could look the same, but is that even possible with half-siblings? Anyone who knows about genetics could give their opinion about this? At least I think she looks a little older than Tomo looked, japanese womans sometimes do age very well and Ai don't really look that much older either, can we really discard the possibility that she's really not Tomo? We don't know exactly how much years have passed, and did Amano ever made a story where the characters didn't get together? Did she ever made a bad end? I don't know but I find it really unlikely that Amano would really kill Tomo and Ai would stay single for years, and then she would meet Tomo half-sister and maybe start a relationship with her, and that "half-sister" in their first meet said Ai was beautiful, said she had a older sister that disappeared, not that she died, and ask if she didn't want to have some tea, after all the plot twists and the way the story progressed in this chapter, I'm the only one that find it all really suspicious? I'm the only one that think that she can really be Tomo?

There's also the fact that she did The Feelings We All Must Endure between chapters and the one year gap between chapter 5 and 6, since she tried to make a more philosophical story but stoped to make a more realistic story with The Feelings We All Must Endure, I think she didn't know how to continue Philosophia anymore, sure The Feelings We All Must Endure is not her best work, but would she write something like this if she really didn't want to make it like this? I'm not sure this was really bad writing, I think she didn't know how to continue the philosophical aspect of the story and just started to mock and taunt us with the way chapter 6 was, like with the plost twist of Tomo being a pimp and dying offscreen, It's just me or that was not really bad writing but just trolling? She wouldn't be the first creator to troll their fans....

Anyone have Amano twitter? Can't someone just ask her about the ending? Cause I don't have any fucking idea of what I should think about it anymore, I mean, did she really die? Did she fake her death? Was this really bad writring? Or she's just trolling us? Is it both? Is it none? I think something is breaking inside me...

HEY you do think a lot....hummmm, I do agree I was like... "Hey maybe she faked her death" but...20 years? what kind of idiot is she to make Ai wait and be lonely for so long....if not well...the sister replacement...that's..I don't know..and yes no body was found? Well drowning in the sea makes it hard to be found I think.

I did consider she wanted to troll us all as well ,just cos she can.
The pimp thing...well...if she had depression she didn't wanna work right? so pimping is easy no?
xD
I just can't think anymore

Man... That was some intense feels! I had read about the ending, but I forgot about what happened to Tomo from when I read those spoilers... That was rough...

Nobody does painful quite like Amano. If you are looking for happy go lucky love stories, just run away when you see her name as the mangaka! But sometimes those are good too... Feelings was at least a semi-happy ending, though the why of it was hard to fathom... This one is pretty much pure pain. Not that it wasn't good.

I beg to disagree she has awesomely sweet works,it's clear you haven't read :
sweet guilty love bites
yukemuri sanctuary
not for sale
dream at dawn
sweet examination
encore
sweet exercise

:3

Oh yes Psycho pass <3

jigoku shoujo
pet shop of horrors

Ooooooo how so many people here are gonna backpedal SO FAST when the next chapter's scan is released.

Not commenting further on that.

-grins- Yep

Serial Experimental girl Lain
Ergo proxy
Boogiepop Phantom

^
Not being good at communicating feelings is not an excuse for jerkassery. Actually, even Matsuri'd be a better pair to Yuzu, at least she does not treat those who she likes like garbage... Seriously, Mei doesn't deserve (nor need, probably) any lovers, she needs a good effin' therapist.

Hahaha I have to agree with you,she's a total ass,but well..they do look cute together...actually Yuzu deserves a nice partner..would it be too weird for Matsuri to come back?

I agree with you!! specially on the black bar parts u_u
What will you read? I need something too, I re-read this to make some sense..it was even worse

I'm not sure. Maybe "The Structural Formula of First Love", more probably and specifically "Backshot" to begin with. It has the right balance between mischief and tenderness I need in this moment.

Gonna just read all by her,except the feelings we all must endure, I liked it but it's not for now

^ sweet guilty love beat, with Miyata and kyrie. I love this one
Read Le petit chaperon rouge and it will make you forget everything too =D

Ohhhh yes SGLB is awesomeeeeeeee

Will go read those :3

If it weren't for the whole thing about Tomo being a pimp, the abrupt end might even have worked. I can think a lot of different possibilities for "darken" Tomo's character without resorting to the underworld.

Moreover, in some way, I even expect the last pages (the "comeback" of Tomo). If it had been really her (like "hohoho! I had to fake my death but I'm back because, after all, I was only a damn tsundere who failed to be honest with herself" or something xD), the whole bit about her darkness would even have sense.

But ... um ... nope. As things just happen in the end don't fit for me. A pity, because there was no history of Shuninta disappointed me so far.

PS: I'll re-read me some of his other stories to get out of this bad taste.

I agree with you!! specially on the black bar parts u_u
What will you read? I need something too, I re-read this to make some sense..it was even worse

^
I hope both Sara and Yuzu forget about Mei. She really doesn't deserve the love of either of them.
I'm still rooting for Harumin x Yuzu, even if it's pretty much impossible xD

I think Harumin and vice pres have something going on..I don't know..

I was rooting for Matsuri at some point but...well...maybe Mei is just not good at communicating her feelings ¬¬

What a load of shit.

But then again it's not surprising, the author is known for being overall shit and pretentious.

The ending was kinda bad, but calling Amamo Shuninta shit is going too far.

That I agree with,yes this story was not really good,but come on,she is still amazing..I'm sure she had a good reason or no time left or she wanted to troll us all

I hope Mei and Yuzu will begin to understand each other properly and get on with it and be clear of misunderstandings O.o It's cool that Yuzu is being reasonable but firm,and Sara..well..she is nice, but she should hook up with her sister Nina.

xD

Such a relief to see Yuzu finally growing a pair

Yeah,atta girl .

Amano Shuninta-sensei...I love,love,love her work...I was looking forward reading this title as well...and ..this is..well..so what? what is that sister who looks exactly like Tomo having to do with the whole thing? "Yo, I'll replace my sis who you've been clinging to for freaking 20 years"... aha..and she was a pimp,that's "ok" I guess..but..what?

-so confused about how to feel-

Why? Why did you do this T_T ???

A relationship between what seems to be two mafia girls or at least pro killers can't be so healthy...plus they are both maniac, Akki is a bit more maniac though.. yandere yandere

Ahh..... that bear...it all makes sense now, well I loved to read the chapter, it has proper quality and it's all well done :3 now let us wait for chapter 16. And do NOT go on tumblr I found it it's a spoiler paradise for almost anything

If bear universe is a delusion, then it's a shared one. Kureha had it too, before her makeover. Dreams, mindreading.

This is the whole point of the manga really, in case you didn't notice. What's true and what's not, what's an illusion and what's reality, what's love and what's desire.

Yuri Kuma Arashi's anime is about finding your someone special (the recurring "found you!") and about "true love" vs desire (eating). And also being true to your love, even in the face of the invisible storm.

I think the manga will tell the same kind of story, in a different way.

I think you , nailed it with that.

I forgot to talk about the theme of "pride" too. Ie, you don't try to change someone to be like you, for your convenience. It's pride. The only one you have the right to change is yourself. Hence the final decision of Kureha in the anime.

YKA is far more complex than appears at first glance, even if 12 eps was too few.

But above all, it's a wonderful love story, so strong that it breaks the barriers of space, time, gender and even species.

Oh yeah, accepting and loving the other as they may be,not wanting them to change for your own sake.
Yes,it is wonderful indeed it holds forever a special spot in my heart.

Aaaand it's out <3

Yes Kuzushiro-sensei is improving every time...man I lover her work, I hope there's more Inugami-san soon as well

If bear universe is a delusion, then it's a shared one. Kureha had it too, before her makeover. Dreams, mindreading.

This is the whole point of the manga really, in case you didn't notice. What's true and what's not, what's an illusion and what's reality, what's love and what's desire.

Yuri Kuma Arashi's anime is about finding your someone special (the recurring "found you!") and about "true love" vs desire (eating). And also being true to your love, even in the face of the invisible storm.

I think the manga will tell the same kind of story, in a different way.

I think you , nailed it with that.

Still waiting for that violent sex chapter.

Gods and Godesses hear ya, we are all ( or many of us ) waiting for it.

Ouch on the hairpin really close to the eye,that's yandere love for you . double yandere. Yes. Cool. I love it.

Hahahaha I loved the sleepy girl,this was so cute,the art is nice, I want more!!!! <3

Just for the (probably few) German speaking forum-ites: Volume 2 of Citrus just came out here.

Seriously? Well my german isn't pro but it must suffice to understand this manga....no..I will wait until the whole thing is done to buy it, I want my first,ok second yuri manga to be special.