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Ok, I finished "the last of us part II" and I'd so much fun, it's by far the best game I've played since a long time.

Hey, that's awesome! There's a lot to like...my favourite parts were Abby's battle with height, and the resident religious Cinnamon Roll Lev.

But I saw a lot of people not liking it...the LGBT community saying that the game was transphobic and homophobic. Can anyone enlighten me why ?

Well, of course it goes without saying that there are countless different groups, individuals, and opinions residing within the (online) LGBT community. I tried to summarise them as briefly as I could, so I hope 4 paragraphs isn't too many! I'll assume you played the first game and DLC, so be warned of spoilers for those. They're arranged with the two most prominent critiques at the top, so feel free to just read those, if you wish to keep it short. (I'm largely basing this on Twitter, and discussions I've had/seen on Twitter, YouTube, and Reddit.)

  1. The first controversies began with the second game's initial trailers and press releases, which seemed to imply that Dina would die early in the game, instead of Joel. This rehashed a previous plot point, the death of Ellie's first love in the first game's DLC. This left a bad taste and impression in a lot of folks' mouths to begin with. A lot of "LGBT Twitter" outwardly project their desire for all LGBT characters to get their happy ending. Nobody in the series gets a happy ending, and the LGBT folks in the series, especially Ellie and Lev, get pretty chronically horrible treatment. By the end, Ellie has lost almost everything she ever had. Lev loses his community, his sister, and then is forced to kill his mother. If you believe that LGBT characters in media ought to be treated better in terms of their rewards, then The Last Of Us II fails this basic premise.

  2. The second major controversy began with the game's release. The game features a sequence of scenes in which Lev is deadnamed multiple times by the Seraphites pursuing him. For significant parts of the community, this was considered completely unacceptable, as deadnaming is disrespectful and unpleasant for trans people, and could be significantly triggering to some. There is a larger discussion about whether deadnaming in media is ever okay, and it seems like in this case, the answer from the LGBT community was "no."

  3. Point 1 intertwines itself with a broader view some people, many of whom are LGBT, hold of the game, that its primary contents amount to little more than the celebration of depravity, or put more simply, torture porn. I think this review in Polygon is a strong argument and summation of that perspective.

  4. Continuing point 2, Lev's character and story have been the topic of much critique. To summarise briefly, the game is rarely, if ever, inclusive of Lev in his story, meaning that we only experience his story through the eyes of cis characters. To some, this is an extreme negative. Secondly, the other character's experiences with Lev are not always the most sensitive to his needs. As an example, in Day 2 of Abby's arc, Lev is revealed to be trans, and on multiple occasions she broaches that topic with him. For some, this is considered an intrusion of his privacy. Later, Abby and Yara have a conversation about Yara's experience coming to accept Lev, which is another intrusion of his privacy. To some trans people, this is disrespectful and unpleasant to experience.

Personally, as an LGBT person, I have a different view of the game than the critiques I've stated above. However, I've spent way too much time reading and discussing the game, so I sincerely hope (and believe) that I've done a respectful job representing their viewpoints.

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(I think some of them kept mentioning that Dina and Ellie not having was homophobic)

Sorry, not having what? A happy ending?

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Can anyone that's affiliated with the site give a definitive answer as to why Onee-san wa Joshi Shougakusei ni Kyoumi ga arimasu isn't being uploaded here?

My answer is equally cryptic and uncertain, but I'm hoping to get it updated within the next week. I'm not familiar with the series nor the circumstances of the scanlator change, but this can be extra troublesome for us if whoever is uploading the series is not familiar with the reasons for the change or either of the two (or more) groups involved. Most likely, the uploader was not reading the series until a request was made, and when Ikki dropped(?) it, their requests stopped coming in, thus the uploader in question would not have had the knowledge that new releases were coming at all. This is just a guess, though.

Until recently I was not reading every single thread, and only came upon the troubles with getting the series updated when I happened upon its thread randomly. Had I not, your post would be the first one to alert me to that fact. Even reading every post, there will surely be items I'll miss. So, anyone is always welcome to bring up questions related to the site here, I appreciate them.

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Simple, but cute.

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I hate every single character in this manga. Not gonna bother reading this lol, but that's not to say that I don't appreciate the scanlators!

This, this is a quality post.

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Hi! anyone knows the group who picked this up? Ch 6 and 7 is already up in another site. Tried looking up their discord link and it says invalid. I would love to help in the translation!

Try this one, it was certainly valid for me just now.

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Hey I think that's pretty cute!

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@OrangePekoe so I tried it again and it still didn’t work, but when i pasted the pre-written sentence into the discussion it worked totally fine. And so i ended up just editing my original comment over top of the test phrase and it worked?! Idk what happened but it worked out I guess

That's great! Terribly sorry for the bother, your account should be cleared from the filter now. Please do get back at us if you have any further trouble!

What weirdo came up with that phrase?

Hmm, now that you bring it up...

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Pages 16 and 17 of chapter 9 were missing for some reason. The archive has been updated, sorry for the mishap!

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Hi! Terribly sorry about that. Would you mind trying to post the comment here, now, for me? If it doesn't go through, try posting the following sentence.

"This paragraph serves no purpose other than attempting to stop the post being flagged as spam. It'll be ironic if it works."

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Thanks for the info, that explains why I couldn't find info. I didn't even know Mangaplanet existed.

So I assume they're digital only? Which is unfortunate since I prefer to pay for print releases, and there's several titles there that I would love to own in print.

Yes, digital-only and (I think?) subscription only. So, Netflix but for Light Novels and Yuri. Quoting myself, "For anyone curious, they have quite a few relevant Yuri light novels. Their website and reader are very barebones, but usable enough if you have other options - like Baka Updates - for tag searches. The quality in translations and editing seems basically fun. Not stunning, but more than good enough for reading purposes."

$7 for a month, $18 for 3 months, $30 for 6 months. Seems like a good bargain, even if it's a one-off subscription you get a bit later on and just spend the whole month reading thru their collection.

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Is there any chance of the forum software getting upgraded to something more robust, like Xenforo, mostly for things like notifications, PMs, and post histories?

I don't believe there is any chance of large-scale changes in the near-future.

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I've been interested in one for a long time, too!

For anyone curious, they have quite a few relevant Yuri light novels. Their website and reader are very barebones, but usable enough if you have other options - like Baka Updates - for tag searches. The quality in translations and editing seems basically fun. Not stunning, but more than good enough for reading purposes. Though I have slight reservations about the licensing associated with streaming, I'm willing to give it a shot once some of these series start hitting it. If it actually works out, maybe this will finally cure my JManga-induced nightmares!

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How about a "Supplementary information" field when suggesting tag changes? Could include things like the reason for the change (if not immediately obvious), what pages the Lizard(s) appear on (to save reading through the whole thing), and so on.

Yeah, this would be nice. For series, you're welcome to use the "Series Description" field for that. Even if that's not quite the intended purpose, folks do it all the time and it is often helpful!

Aren't there way too many bots showing up lately? I don't seem to recall seeing these many before, especially not creating entire forum threads. I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but it seems like something that ought to be addressed.

I don't foresee any development solutions being made to address the problem, as the clearest options come with notable user-end drawbacks. Though, the site is getting minor changes throughout for the first time in a long time, so I may be wrong about that. As of now we're stepping up moderation presence in general, so hopefully the bot problem will be mitigated thru those means.

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Updated the tag to Completed!

Also not sure why no one mentioned it yet - "elsewhere" means Mangadex :P (unless it's understood to be one of these "posting-scanlations-for-profit sites" like mentioned in the forum rules, but I don't get the impression that it is).

For the record, we don't have any problems whatsoever with links or references to MangaDex! They're just about as respectful as it gets in the scene.

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Well now I'm sad...

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You couldn't have offed Kobayashi Ritz instead?

I- I'm actually like the biggest closeted Saki fan there is...

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I can't believe the very first message in this thread is someone calling the mc a garbage ball.
I'd call for moderation.... but the one who wrote that line is staff. ಠ_ಠ
Dynasty forum: where yuri lovers can&will be puritans too....

Woah woah! I'm not aware of calling someone or something trash having any relation whatsoever to purity. My apologies if it is. Referencing her as a garbage ball was meant to be shorthand for how arrogant and shallow she is. I consider this to be a huge positive for both her character and the series, though. Not only is her personality casually funny, but far too much yuri* avoids characters like this unless they are played entirely for gags. We've already seen these traits have real-world impact too! So that's worth being excited over, for me.

Every point raised in my first post was meant to be positive, though I guess depending on your perspective it might've been tricky to read it that way.

*this doubly applies to Adult Life yuri, wherein they often act like cutesy high schoolers for...reasons.

Oh, and you can't get hired as a staff member without killing an ecchi yuri author. The tales of Pekoe taking Mira out with a sniper rifle while she was purchasing ramen from a convenience store are legendary.

Ah, that. My proudest life achievement. I appreciate you bringing it up, always leaves me giddy!

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Hmm...I really do hate how bad digital copyright is. Though in this case, it looks like $7 per month for access to the entire library, which isn't bad, considering the titles they just licensed. Is anyone familiar with accessibility for folks outside of the US?

Teiji got licenced! So we are not going to continue this series. Support the author and buy the original! <3

Thank you so much for all your hard work!

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So the protagonist of this series is as follows:

Cute
Gay As Heck
A Garbage Ball
A Playgirl

The series itself features:

OLs
Beauty In Disguise as our love interest??
Not One But Two(!) Out Lesbians!

Not to mention pages like this and overall pretty smart writing. I keep flicking the light switch up and down, just to be sure I'm awake and grounded in the correct reality. I haven't been this excited about a series in a while, really looking forward to more!

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Thanks so much to the scanlator for allowing us to host their work! Always great to have more Ohsawa Yayoi!

Chapter names correspond to song titles, you may find the songs in question below for each respective chapter.

Chapter 1: ストレンジカメレオン
Chapter 2: タイミング~Timing~
Chapter 3: 放浪フリーク
Chapter 4: ピエロ
Chapter 4.5: Bonus Track
Chapter 5: ここでキスして
Chapter 6: Himitsu Girl's Top Secret
Chapter 7: 少女S
Chapter 8: キズナソング
Chapter 9: メランコリック
Chapter 9.1: Bonus Track Side: A
Chapter 9.2: Bonus Track Side: B
Chapter 9.3: Extra Pages
Chapter 10: 17才
Chapter 11: メッセージ | another song with the same name
Chapter 12: ワンダーフォゲル
Chapter 13: つぐみ
Chapter 13.5: Special EP - スノウリバース | YouTube Cover

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Okay, I think this particular track has gone on long enough. Barring exceptional restraint from each individual poster, I will not be entertaining further posts on the subject of names in this thread.

Kirin, you seem to be arguing a broader point about manga readers - and this manga in particular - that hasn't been demonstrated to exist within the confines of this thread. Your first post, especially, is highly dismissive towards other people who may not have the same perspective or level of knowledge that you possess. I can appreciate comedic exaggeration, but in this case you went too far.

Thank you and take care, everyone.

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Original
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/86045084

How rare is lap-sitting top? I can't even remember the last time I saw it...

Today I learned that poultry manufacturing might actually become a thing. How about that.

I approve of the new avi, it's very good. Somehow fitting, too.

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Mito discussion 02 Dec 00:28
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Thank you!