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conradin
Citrus + discussion 22 Oct 10:24
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Regarding continuing the story after marriage or at university, Saburouta already made it clear in an interview that no, this story ends at graduation, and finally as far as the harumatsu is concerned, both the harumatsu and the hard between yuzu and MEI are two elements that the author uses to keep the reader with expectations, but the hard is neither there nor expected and the harumatsu today is "dead", tomorrow who knows. Greetings

Some almost 30 years ago I read CLAMP's (both in raw) Tokyo Babylon first, and then the sequel X which was actually better with many more interesting characters. I read Minami Ozaki's (both in raw) Zetsuai and then the sequel Bronze which was also actually better with more high drama. If these first class Yaoi doujinshi-generation artists knew what to do with sequels, how come Sabu does not? So what sort of artist Sabu is, making a sequel meaningless? A bad sequel can even ruin the joy of reading the original series...

conradin
Citrus + discussion 22 Oct 02:37
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joined Mar 18, 2023

I wonder if Mei ever thinks about Arata is interested in Yuzu. The small amount of interaction between Arata and Yuzu clearly shows that Arata likes Yuzu. They are also both extroverts. Any crush that Arata has on Mei when they were kids is irrelevant now that they have grown up. I think that Arata probably considers Mei to be a future close friend, why Yuzu being a future girl friend.

As I wrote earlier, my school did exactly something similar. The school founder built two schools, one is for boys, the other for girls. Eventually for social and economical reasons, they merged. Now because of harsh economic situation, we ended up selling the original girl campus, but we survived. If the two school did not merge, both will go bankcrupt.

This proposed school cultural festival by Mei is a HUGE gamble and she better explains it carefully to the board. As Sayaka said before, the school is a bird cage, preventing any student from knowing the outside world. To be more specific, boys. Since many students are already engaged, most of them probably have never met any boys other than their own family circle (such as relatives) and the fiances. But now we have an opportunity for the students to meet with boys from a boy school, and work together, many (on both sides) may end up falling in love (puppy love, whatever you want to define it). This can potentially ruin many engagements. This will become the nightmare scenario that Sayaka fears. The unknown outside world. What will happen if Miyabi meets a boy from Arata's school and started having a crush? Miyabi has no obligation to tell Sayaka everything. What I am trying to point out is, Mei is playing a dangerous game. Engagements being canceled can mean business alliances being broken for the rich who has been inter-marrying for a couple hundred years. Even if Arata's classmates are all from the rich and the upper social class, wrong alliances can cause serious problems.

I hope the board knows what is going on, and I hope Mei has the answers ready.

The truth is also that if Mei does not do something like this, Aihara academy may not last long. It will be like a leak from a dam when the students see what the outside world is, and one by one their families start to send their kids to co-ed schools. Arata's school will also have the same problem, if not more, because boys surely love co-ed schools. Well, except a few..we don't even know if Arata is straight, bi, or gay at this point, all we know is he and Yuzu gets along very well just from what we see so far. But then again of course he himself may already have been engaged.

Oh, I am surprised that Matsuri seems to have a much better relationship with Sayaka. Although I am not surprised that Sayaka does not want to say anything about the festival regardless of whether Mei told her not to say a word about it, this is exactly the scenario she fears about, but has to go through with it, just as she has promised Miyabi (and Yuzu). My feeling is that she does not know the details, based on Himeko's expression, who seems to know a bit but not everything.

Sabu is too slow. I am sure she signed a contract with Yurihime to know how many volumes she would need to produce. Dragging the story will fulfill the contract, but that is a short sighted business strategy. Move quicker, create better arcs, HaruMatsu, etc. A longer sighted strategy will be not just doing that, but finish the manga good enough to have a new sequel (post marriage, College days) with no restrictions anymore. Namori is still drawing not just one, but two series of which one of them is a side story. IF she can do that, and still doing strong, there is no reason Sabu cannot do the same.

conradin
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More...please

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More....

conradin
Citrus + discussion 17 Oct 12:45
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Not giving anything away, but more of a cultural question.

Mei is making a speech to the entire student body, however, I do not understand why she addresses to the student body as "Minnasama". I thought one should call peers as "Minnasan", no? As the student council president and also as a senior, she is the most senior member of the student body, so I do not understand why she would use "sama" to any student, let alone the entire student body. The only persons she technically can use that term "sama" is to Yuzu, ie, oneesama, or Himeko, because Himeko comes from has a much much much more respected and old super rich family, ie, a higher social class.

The plan that Mei was working with Arata for the past couple of chapters are actually quite common. My own school did the same thing. Well, I am not giving away what my school did, but when you read it in this new chapter, it may help you to understand what the cooperation is all about. It is all about survival, as has been implied or stated for the past couple chapters. If a private single sex school without a good endowment and see students left for a more desirable school for whatever reasons, it can go bankrupt. This brings you all the way back to the board meeting when Mei assured the old guys that the school will be ok under her control.

I do notice one shocking thing, but without Mei being drawn more, or rather, drawn a specific part of her body, I cannot tell exactly what is going on. This is because Yuzu is wearing the engagement ring openly in school on her left hand ring finger where everyone can see it. I wonder why. I have a few ideas but I rather not spoil the plot. I wonder if there is truly a rule that students are not allowed to wear rings, which is quite hypocritical because way back in Chapter 1 Harumin told Yuzu that many students were already engaged. So what is the point of hiding? Who would come up with such a minute, pointless rule about wearing rings? My personal guess is Mei made up that rule because she was paranoid about being outted.......which is also pointless since at this point and time it is an open secret that Mei and Yuzu are a couple.

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I like it. It is a happy ending.

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joined Mar 18, 2023

I love this manga to the point of buying the raw every month (I'm at 33 now). It actually getting better and better. But I now begin to think that the yuri tag may not apply. There is neither romantic love nor desire of lust between the three main characters. None of the three also have feelings for other people. Maybe other type of love, I don't know. Miko does what she does out of guilt. Shiori lies all the time to try to stop Hinako committing suicide because her "warrantee" to give Hinako a long life is not working because Hinako sabotages herself, with survivors guilt.

conradin
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Happy Ending, yay!

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joined Mar 18, 2023

The epilogue ("special chapter") is now out. Vol.121 of the anthology. Tankoubon #4 will be out at the end of the October. The short plot is about Sena , now living with Kiku, having a meet and greet book signing session

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^
that is normal in yaoi.

conradin
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What a mess this manga is.The ending also is a mess (chapter 30). This manga is one of the perfect example for reading backwards from the final chapter back up a few just to have a feel of whether you like it or not. You do not want to read 29 chapters and then the ending of chapter 30 ruins the entire story.

conradin
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Perfect ending. The elder partner of an age gap couple usually has insecurity, once they go past certain age (say, late 30s). This is exactly how her reaction should be. The bond is slightly different, but actually can be much stronger than regular non-age gap couple. You have to love someone enough to make up the difference in interest and experience of the generation gap .
My best friend has a 30+ year generation gap. They were made for each other.

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These two are made for each other...

conradin
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i hope she approach to be a tomboy, a lesbian tomboy is fine

You will see in the next chapter, that your idea, is half right. I am very happy about the finale. (ok, I read 5 chapters ahead in raw...). They are actually perfect for each other. It is just a matter of figuring out the emotional boundaries.

how to be bosom friends while stay away for a bit when it comes to feelings of romantic love

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I wont be surprised the scum became buddies or even marry that dude. As long as Mashiro staying as a mistress for Makino, along with non stop supply of money or credit card, things will work. Money buy you everything. Those three may even becomes a threesome. You cannot ignore that credit card.

conradin
VAMPEERZ discussion 08 Sep 07:54
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SHow has been designing and playing around new characters. I would like to know what his plan is.

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Not your average shounen...

conradin
Asako discussion 07 Sep 00:01
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Abuse and neglect through generations.Asane mo seem to be a potential abuser.

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3 year anniversary issue, 10/ oct 23, rawI do not know about the chapter number. back into The tourist kitsune tries to "help" Miko to turn back into what a kitsune supposed to do, ie, people eating monster.

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joined Mar 18, 2023

^Raw.

I have just finished 21 (finale, raw). OMG, I would have never dreamed that there is anything yuri out there that is more romantic than this, with adult lovers, including the end. OK, no seggs, don't need it when something is that romantic, and the two MCs are so deeply in love and being patience. Kiku as we know spends tremendous amount of time and energy to help Sena, out of love; this time, finally, Sena not just confess, but apologizes for having Kiku to wait for her feeling to be equal. Yuna is not in this chapter, but Yurina is always, wearing the best clothes. I wonder if the artist has studied fashion designs, because the clothes are very pretty and unique through out the manga

Sena's career is back on track, including having a movie made based on her novel
Kiku asked Sena for a spare key to her apartment, as her birthday request, as a joke. We all know that she does not need the key because she is used to breaking in without asking. This time Sena gives Kiku the key, and Asks Kiku to move in, which Kiku accepts
The will have an epilogue in the next issue.

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Until we know about the domestic environment of Nanase and Yuni we really cannot make any solid judgement about all three of them. What sort of home Yuni has, and is she truly being loney (no friend, no family).
Lonely is a usual reason for break ups; but unfortunately people also use that reason for cheating.

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joined Mar 18, 2023

I wonder if the series was axed. The ending does not make much sense, as if the move to the island has never taken place. Nothing has changed. I also do not know what the mangaka is trying to tell us with this plot.

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joined Mar 18, 2023

2 chapters. That is all it takes for our Hanako sensei to draw a complete sexual assault scene, Brava.

conradin
Citrus + discussion 27 Jul 02:13
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I want to see what happens if and when Arata turned out to like Yuzu and started to flirt and asks for dates, will Mei still be in robot mode? Will she be ok? Or jealous? lack of confidence? will she not care because she is 100% into the school?
She may as well tell Arata about she and Yuzu's real relationship. Many people inside the school have already known. Exchanging small personal info and story is always a key to a successful business partnership.

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Im now on 20. 21 will be the end, now confirmed. 20 is extremely dialogue heavy, with Yuuna and Sena talking to each other alone for almost 27 pages. Kiku shows up at the end for 3 pages or so .I hope someone can translate this chapter soonish because my Japanese is absolutely not up to par.
Pacing is real good, No rush, No time wasting, I hope 21 will have the same pace so that the ending will be satisfying as opposed to being rushed, or wasting space.