But Hinako being gay is central to all of that. She's like, "Oh no I'm not normal and I'm not happy being like most women and I can't fall in love!" and, like... literally all of that is because she's gay. Sure, she could plausibly have self-esteem stuff built up all around that, but the gayness is the root cause.

It's like if I wrote a story where a man is sexually abused as a child, and as a result, when grown-up, he is scared of intimacy. And then I never explicitly bring up the abuse (instead just suggesting it) and justify it by saying, "Oh, this isn't about abuse, it's about fear of intimacy." Except, like, it's not... it's about fear of intimacy from a history of abuse, which is different from other kinds. Or, I write about a kid who doesn't fit in because she's deaf, and no one in the story ever says the word "deaf." Even if it's not the focus of the story, we all know it's relevant; it's weird not to acknowledge it somehow.

What concerns me is, like, making the gayness subtextual instead of something talked about directly has some practical benefit for this story being sold or to readers embracing it. Like, "you can tell your yuri story, but only as long as none of that gay stuff is part of the deal: for all readers know, this coworker is just a weird exception to her straightness."

I have a few concerns with this.

The story is told from Hinako's perspective. Thus far, she's the only individual we've had internal dialogue from. She isn't thinking about how she's gay, because if she were, the entire conflict of her thinking she's not able to fall in love would be over. She's not at that point mentally.

The way I interpret your comment is "Instead of the author telling the story she wanted to tell, she should've told the story I wanted her to tell. But because she didn't, the story is flawed."

Also, I don't think the gayness is subtextual. The story is about as blatant as you can get in showing Hinako's attraction to Satou, considering that she hasn't even realized it herself yet. The only way it could be more obviously repressed-gay is if she were constantly trying to hug or cuddle up to Satou - which, she probably would do if she were a more physically intimate person.

For a second I thought that the story might end here with an ambiguous hook up. I glad it didn't. I just hope it isn't heading for some bullshit het ending like Uno's friendship with Satou gives Uno the confidence to date men properly. At this point I don't think so, but it wouldn't be the first time a yuri story had a Whiskey Tango Foxtrot het ending.

Usui Shito does have 5 other yuri manga on here, with varying levels of explicitness.

I'm just just saying I'd rather it end here, like this this, than it go a bunch more chapters Then have it turn out that Uno and Satou's friendship was just the catalyst to bring Satou out of her shell, and give Uno self respect, so she can finally fall in love. If I read 12+ chapters just to have the take away to be Uno hooking up with Sakagami-kun, and Satou befriending the other office ladies, it would feel like a real stab in the back.

That fear seems relatively unfounded given how blatantly in love Hinako is with Satou.

Series itself started in May 2019 edition of Yuri Hime - so 3/18/19.

This manga is going to be too short. I can feel it. ｡゜(｀Д´)゜｡

Second volume starts with chapter 6, so we have at least 5 more chapters ahead of us. Beyond that, it probably depends on the sales of volume 1 - so everyone should consider supporting if it's within your means!

If you don’t like what I said, then shut up

I certainly hope you're aware of how silly you sound when you say this.

Omichi needs to go away.

yall weak

the series has been stagnant since like chapter 4, it took like 40 chapters for us to get a hint of development, at least theres a new dynamic going on while we wait 40 more chapters for things to advance another half step

Stagnancy is totally fine, especially since these two have always been fun together. Throwing in a third wheel makes for a significantly less enjoyable dynamic, though.

I’m not understanding your question: who is it that doesn’t talk about her being gay? The characters in the story?

I mean the author not making it explicit and something to explore, however it's brought in. Like, her attraction to Satou is synecdoche for her overall attraction to women, and the latter is just left tacit.

I’m going to try one more time, because I flat out do not understand what you’re saying here.

As far as we can tell, this is the first time Hinako has allowed herself to feel an attraction outside of a rigidly defined “normality” (her oppressive mom supplies more than enough explanation for why). How is the author not making her attraction to Satou explicit?

Put another way, what would what you’re looking for look like in the context of this story and these characters?

It could go a million different ways. It can be an internal monologue, in dialogue, in her noticing a magazine cover. There's lots of ways a story element can be made explicit.

Also, like, "this story" and "these characters" only are the way they are because the author chose to make them that way. There's no reason another character couldn't exist who comments on it, or there isn't a gay celebrity scandal on TV or whatever.

I said the attraction to Satou is explicit; the general nature of her sexuality is what's implicit, even though every note of a coming out story is being hit. This is a story about a woman realizing she's gay where the concept of "gay" never comes up. It's like the author wants us to totally understand what these "holes" are (internalized homophobia and unhappiness about forcing herself into hetero normalcy) but wants to be coy about it or not explicitly bring it up for some other reason. This appears to be fairly common in yuri manga.

I think that's just incongruent with the story the author wants to tell. It's a story about accepting herself, and acknowledging her sexuality is undeniably part of that, but it's also a love story. I think the author wanted to show Hinako, the girl who (thinks she) can't fall in love, completely falling head over heels for someone without even realizing it. Introducing concepts like comphet and general sexual attraction would result in the "girl who (thinks she) can't fall in love" aspect disappearing. Which would be fine - but I don't think it's a flaw of the author that she decided not to take this route.

In real life, I think a lot of times these issues about her sexuality are solved by spending some time reading about it, or talking with an online friend, or something similarly mundane. But that wouldn't make for as great a story, at least in my eyes.

Well this just made me feel bad for third-wheel-chan.

Hello, there's one manga I simply can't recall the name of and I don't know what to search to find it.
It's a oneshot yuri, between a Japanese girl that lives by an american military base and an American (?) girl that lives on the base, and they communicate through a fence. It would probably be tagged with Drama.
Thank you if anyone finds it, since that description was pretty vague lol

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/f_u_s_s_a

Well, you could argue some of her teaching to Micchan was "cruel". Similarly you could argue that Micchan really enjoyed all of it, so...

I suppose, but I still think that leans more toward inconsiderate than cruel. She's just helping Micchan out of the closet she's obviously in, albeit in a very immature manner.

I mean, I don't think she was acting cold as an act, I think she was being an idiot, and she felt bad so she was anxious and withdrawing. Still on her, but I don't think she was acting cold just to mess with Sana or test her or something at least.

When Sana brought up exchanging gifts, Ayane's coldness was for show. I think on the day of the date, you're right that she was probably pretty bummed out and upset.

The whole chapter reeks of pretty typical immature teenager behaviour - Ayane doesn't really think things through, then she gets upset and lets that show, inadvertently hurting Sana. She's clearly regretful, and she owns up her stupid decision in the end, so it's hard to be too hard on her (though an apology was definitely due). In general, Ayane strikes me as a bit impulsive, and at times inconsiderate, but I don't think she ever behaves with cruel intentions (that we've seen, anyway).

That was a flashback from their college days. They used to date back then. Then Aya broke up with Risa and married a man. Then that man dumped Aya (we don't know the full story of that, but it is implied he broke up with her because she was emotionally distant).
Now they're just meeting and sometimes have sex, but they don't date. In chapter 17 we can see where they currently stand, and Aya is still not sure whether to date Risa or not.
A big reason for that is her sick dad whom she visits at the hospital, and he asks her if she found the right man yet. He also says "I can't die until I see the face of my first grandchild?

Ah that makes sense, I mistakenly interpreted it as being current. Kind of a shame really, as it was my favourite chapter thus far, but realizing that makes the whole thing very bitter.

Have we ever gotten a confission in this?
I know there's at least one canon couple, but was there any on-screen confission? I don't remember.

Are they a couple thought ? I know who you referring to but iirc they're sex friends/ex not actually in couple.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/lily_marble_ch24#10

"If they find out I'm dating a woman" reads to me like they're dating. That, plus Aya looking so positively toward their future makes it seem like she's made her choice.

The only yuri where Jordan Peterson is both the theme and a character.

When that dude was mentioned on MangaDex, it resulted in a 30 post long argument and a forum moderator had to step in.

It is pretty funny seeing people grasp onto the faintest shreds of yuri subtext but feel the need to step in when others do the same for poly subtext.

I’m reading it solidly because art is nice and smooth. But story is so contrived. It’s not like there can't be story with this kind of gimmick, but here it become tiresome after chapter 2. Ok, ok I get that one girl is blinded and other is coward for no reason, move forward with this, please.

That's just how Mochi stories work. They're always pretty nonsensical and poorly written.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see this series move forward from its premise and actually do so in an enjoyable way, but I'm not holding my breath.

Usui Shio posted the first chapter on twitter and it had a pretty huge response.

Volume 1 came out today, I believe it contains the first 6 chapters (chapter 6 released today - the raws will presumably be available in the next day or two). The translator read it and said that she confirmed here that the story will continue.

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I am super happy that TappyToon has surpassed the unofficial scans! I can't wait to read the rest of it. By the time I reached 57, it became far and away my favourite yuri story (2nd favourite manga in general - behind My Lesbian Experience With Loneliness). I absolutely adore the way the main couple is handled. Their feelings build in such an honest and believable way. Only 22 chapters left, I'm so excited.

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how the fuck did they eat an apple like that

Right? I had no idea people just bite right through the outside of oranges like that.

Are the ch5 raws out?

Ch5 raws came out in Feb 2020 edition. Ch6 is presumably going to come within the next few days.

How far behind the raws are we currently?

Raws are at Ch 20 as of Feb 2020 issue. Presumably another two chapters in a few days.

Ah, hallucinating people calling your name? That’s a pretty bad sign of PTSD. I’m getting the sense that her parents are probably even worse than most people are expecting.

I've often had times where I think I hear people talking, especially when it's silent for a while and then suddenly there is faint noise. I don't think it's particularly meaningful. In this case I think she was just thinking about Satou-san, heard something, and her brain instinctively processed it as Satou-san's voice, before realizing it was just the wind.

pg 144, "they are the forbidden fruit" -> "they ate the forbidden fruit"

Oops, thanks

Hey can someone explain to me what do the black page backgrounds signify?
They seems as if they are random

Looks mostly like the author is using it to show passage of time. Panel backgrounds go dark at sundown and light at sunup. That accounts for most of it, but the author also mixes i some moments here and there where the character's mood brightens the night or darkens the day. By and large it mostly looks like the night/day cycle is the main element. It's kind of an interesting trick, actually.

That's how I'm interpreting it as well. It can be a bit confusing at first as black borders are traditionally used to indicate flashbacks, but I don't she's used it for that purpose so far.

And I do think this relationship brought some needed color to Uno-san. Hopefully, the author will add more depth to her character; as much as I like what I've seen so far, she's still paper thin to me (mainly a person on whom the MC is fixated).

I assume this is in reference to Satou-san, not Uno-san, judging by your last sentence?

In which case, I would've agreed prior to chapter 3, but I think chapter 3 told us quite a lot about her in very little time. We get to know her family circumstances, her apparent dedication to raising her sister, and presumably as a result, her not wanting to invite the idea of "falling in love" into her life. We see that she puts on a bit of a facade at work, same as Uno-san. We see that she's surprisingly interested in Uno-san as well, and is unusually thoughtful toward her (relative to how she normally is, according to Subaru). We see that she probably has some emotional issues to work through, given how some of the same signs of depression that are present in Uno-san (lack of motivation to clean her room) are present in Satou-san as well.

She hasn't had a ton of focus thus far, and I'd like to see her character be further fleshed out, but I don't think it's fair to call her paper thin, either.