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What I found most amusing about this chapter was the fanservice shot of Nene's complete lack of an ass. That's how you know Kano is truly in love.

I get that this is a sleazy manga, but I find it kind of mean to just randomly make fun of a girl's body featured in it. Her butt wasn't commented on by the characters, and it doesn't look the way it does due to an anatomical error or artistic exaggeration.

It is just a drawing but there are some women who visit this forum and some of us have butts that look similar to that. So it feels kind of weird to read this kind of unprompted judgment of a totally average anime girl butt as unattractive. It's a bit like listening to men's locker room talk. I signed up to read a sleazy manga, not random judgmental comments on the forum that have nothing to do with the story. But maybe that's not a reasonable distinction to make, I don't know.

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Finally, thank you for the typo reports. We're in the midst of doing final wordsmithing and translation checks, so we'll be sure get them fixed while we do that.

I'm verifying the translation as a whole one last time, and I personally think that I've improved a lot since I started, so some sentences might change in this round of edits, but thank you again for pointing out those typos, we'll verify if they're still there!

You guys are doing an amazing job here, so this is the least I can do! Maybe because I'm a slow reader, I just tend to notice this stuff while reading as normal.

It's also neat to see the subtle mismatch between what we're told in the prologue, what Eda says, and what Terra guesses about Circ history. Eda is either lying about Magiri, or she doesn't know, and I'm sure the next novels will get around to that.

Yeah! I meant to say that it's odd that Eda says Magiri never came down after her.

It was also funny (and a little scary) that Eda implied that the squids attacked the tracker's vessel because she ordered them to. And the way she talked about the previously crashed ships made it sound like she only bothered to save the decompas? Though it looked like she also wanted to confirm that Diode as a Twister meant no harm to Terra, so it's not clear if Eda hates Twisters or men.

Actually, the way chapter 11 ended up working out reminds me of how in the webtoon Her Tale of Shim Chong (spoilers for Series: Her Tale of Shim Chong) the goddess of the sea took mercy on Shim Chong and her Lady. If I had a nickel for every yuri tale in an ultra-patriarchal dystopia where this happened, I'd have two nickles, etc.

Other than that, I'm already working on volume 2, and things will get quite intense from now on, so it's a shame how we won't be seeing those moments in drawn form. Honestly, same with the whole Eda and Magiri deal, I really like their tragic romance.

I really enjoy the kinks and twists in the forbidden history of the Circs. The part that can give the renegade fishing pair some hope for the future is that Eda and Magiri were both women who played key roles in establishing humanity on the planet, and even were free to be a couple. But in a way it was their relationship that ended up causing Magiri to give up on her leadership after losing Eda to the planet's depths. They were just normal, flawed people, but due to the near total erasure of the past by the natalist regime, by the time Diode and Terra can learn about them, it's as little more than a sort of feminist legend, an allegory. It's only by a stroke of incredible luck that Terra could meet the real Eda face to face.

Rock and Linia are such an interesting pair! I wish we'd gotten a little more of them, I feel like using an abandoned weather facility as a(n implied lesbian) hangout was the most punk thing in the album. I hope they're still able to have fun operating the instrumentation in the observatory.

I just wonder if they plan to leave FBB behind at some point because a whole life in that small weather station sounds a bit depressing. Though I guess both of them might just be the kind of introverts that don't mind the isolation.

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Well done completing the translation of the first volume!

Chapter 11 was an amazing closer for the book. Diode refusing to leave without Terra and their mutual confession destroyed me, then the kisses on the way back revived me.

The meeting with Eda was so good too! The prologue shows Magiri taking one last dive into the depths 10 years after Eda's disappearance in a desperate attempt to reunite with her.

Also lol that Diode knew exactly what her mother meant with the invitation for Terra to join them upstairs:

I didn't even think of that, but after her mom basically proposed to Terra I get why Diode was worried. I hope we see Rock and Linia again at some point; they're very funny.


Last round of typos from this volume, with suggestions

Ch. 10

I've been scared of falling for as long as I've been here that's why I ran away.

  • I've been scared of falling for as long as I've been here; that's why I ran away.

and she felt it grow a little warm another hand was touching it from the other side.

  • and she felt it grow a little warm: another hand was touching it from the other side.

I don't know who this Edna Dock person is, but yes What do the Endeavours think about escaping?

  • I don't know who this Edna Dock person is, but yes. What do the Endeavours think about escaping?

Ch. 11

and the fourth flew straight at squid before dodging them masterfully

  • flew straight at squids

Diode pulled and looked up at her with a supernova sparkling in her eyes.

  • [v1] pulled away and
  • [v2] pulled back and
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Girl you can't just go comparing a girl to a cassowary. That is rude!

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I like the author's drawing style and sense of humor, so I hope they come back with another series

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They said the title, like four times

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I wish Aweida’s art skills were better; they have the best premises and dialogue but the drawings are pretty crummy. They would be well suited for a collab pairing with a top tier artist on a longer series!

I enjoy Aweida's art, there's a certain charm and unique look to it.

Yeah, I think the crudeness adds to the depiction of the unhinged scenarios rather than detracts.

Their drawings are a little unusual in manga, maybe an acquired taste, but I would not call them low quality at all. The expressions are amazing, probably some of the best in the scene, and despite the wacky scenarios the choreography is always believable yet interesting.

The sketchy style itself works really well with the improvised quality of the scenes. The scenarios are obviously contrived, but the way the characters react to them and the way they are drawn makes what they are doing feel unplanned and immediate.

To be fair, I say this after having read a number of their full doujins. It's probably hard to get a feel for it through just the shorts they release on social media.

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^"How gay" feels like the wrong question to me, given that the setup seems to be a love triangle with Machu having Nyaan (the shy tall girl) and Shuji (malnourished pretty boy) as 'options'. Any forecasting about the "gay" in Cucks needs to take into account that even in G-Witch, despite Miorine being coded as Suletta's number one from the start, the lesbian love story had to be mostly indirect (we don't see a kiss, we don't see the wedding, and only boys got to say direct phrases like "I love you" and "marry me"), and that was with G-Witch running twice as long as Cucks will. The one thing that Nyaan has in her favor is that Shuji is fairly likely to die as Newtype love interests tend to in Gundam, so Nyaan could "win", in a way, by simply staying alive.

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From what I understand, Mizuki was assumed to be a girl by Ena and the other two girls from their unit, and she seemed to be completely fine with that. She wanted to come out to them, but she delayed it for a long time. If for all intents and purposes, she was a girl when she was with her closest friends, why the hesitation to call her a girl?

I find it strange that the uploaders here apply the yuri tag to something like Akane x Ranma automatically, but not to MizuEna. Why is it that the shapeshifter is accepted as a girl so easily (with none of this concern trolling about how Ranma is "actually just" nonbinary or genderfluid or whatever), but Mizuki, a character whose story is very similar to that of many young trans girls, does not get this courtesy?

Surely it's not just because Ranma can shapeshift into a form where she is a cis girl, but Mizuki can't. It's not just because Mizuki has a dick that she can't shapeshift away... Right?

Those students also then say Ena is a "normal girl" where as it is implied then that they don't see Mizuki as such.

Not that those idiots have any say in who Mizuki is, but if they actually viewed Mizuki as just a boy, they would have just asked Ena if she's a girl, and the "normal" qualifier would not have been necessary. Ena being called a "normal girl" implies that Mizuki is viewed as a girl too, but the abnormal kind.

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Parent thread

When I said 'this chapter confirms' the theory, I didn’t mean it as a definitive statement just that I was enthusiastic about the idea, I apologize I realize that wasn’t very clear. I’m not against the concept of "pure" or "impure" yuri. I was simply putting a theory out there based on what I was able to analyze from the chapter.
I noticed that Aihara has a liking for gothic things, and when she was bitten by the vampire, she seemed unusually aware of what was happening. That opens up the possibility that she may have been playing along with vampire-sama.
Another theory is that the vampiric effect was present from the beginning, but Aihara remains self-aware, she just responds intensely when a command is given.
I’m not trying to convince myself that the mind-control aspect doesn’t exist, and I’m fully aware the author has explored dubcon themes in yuri before. I’m not trying to downplay anything that could reasonably be interpreted as such. I’m just genuinely invested in how the series might unfold and whether or not these theories will come into play. :)

I was mostly referring to comments earlier chapters received and fandom tendencies in general, so I did not mean to personally criticize you or anyone else. You also said nothing hurtful, so an apology was not necessary! But I appreciate that you clarified your thoughts.

I felt like it was fair to take some shots at this tendency in fandom to project purity on yuri (and then being outraged when it's dispelled) in relation to this series because hypnosis and mind control are very rarely present in works uploaded to this site, and I assumed that a lot of people here are unfamiliar with it as a taboo theme, and expecting a fakeout, are inclined to ignore the warning. But yes, not everyone who speculates about a fakeout is compelled by the 'yuri=pure' bias.

Thinking about it a little more, I honestly expect to eat my words earlier. Not because the evidence for a fakeout is compelling, but because to imagine even a dubcon yuri afficionado like Teren Mikami committing to mind altering effects (even partially or by leaving the exact extent of it ambiguous) feels a bit naive. If this story crosses over to erotica like Arioto did, then the odds improve a little, but otherwise... Well, maybe it's okay to hope for a miracle.

Personally I don't like mind control not because of purity and so fourth but rather simply personal reasons. That said I'm entirely aware it's an aspect of vampire media, and I'm curious to how this will play it. Also I think it's fun when a character is playing along but not actually mind controlled, they retain their agency, on top of creating an interesting dynamic with the other character. That's just my preference and the kind of outcome I enjoy most.

People have the right to dislike anything for any reason of course, I just don't get what someone who doesn't like mind control as a relationship theme in lesbian fiction would get out of a story clearly invoking mind control in this context (not just as a throwaway gag but as part of the basis of the relationship) and then walking it back completely.

In my case, mind control when it's merely imperfect creates a unique opportunity to play with a character's agency, both as a relationship theme in lesbian fiction and in general. A character, knowing that their head was messed with, trying to puzzle out which of their thoughts and motivations are their own and which are not, is fascinating to me.

But if the mind control is just straight up, 100% ineffective... There are ways for that to make a character dynamic interesting in some genres, like if this asymmetry of information between the characters carries serious stakes or is mined for comedy, but in a "self-indulgent" yuri manga like this, I find it kind of stale. And this vampire girl is already so loser-coded, I don't see the appeal in defanging her completely by revealing the vampire ability she's been trying to use is a joke too. Even the most famous 'loser girl magnet' Hitori Gotoh is allowed to be good at one thing (besides attracting girls).

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I liked the frankness of the setup, but then it went in an… odd direction. Could be good, though, even though I don’t think that ultimately Kano has much of a chance with her fluffy het friend (unless/until manga rules kick in)

The blurb on the color page boasts that this is the long-awaited manga version of a controversial yuri romcom, so the odds are pretty high that Kano gets the girl.

If this opener feels strange (beyond the subject matter), I guess it's because the transition from light novel to manga was handled less gracefully, and an assertive (using the term generously) lead being the narrator.

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So, the girl is only pretending to be a thrall of the vampire girl? I called it!

Because that was the most adorable route!

EXACTLY, I've thought this way the whole time, and this chapter just confirmed it, she's into goth things and Vampire-sama being there felt like fate to her, and she went along with it because it let her experience the things she loves most. :D

Not sure how this chapter confirms anything. Still looks very brainwashed, sudden fixation after a bite? She realized all that epiphany just after seconds of encounter?

More like that’s just how vampire magic works, draw out their strongest feelings toward you

Lotta people expect (perhaps even require) F/F relationships in fiction to be morally pure due to the absence of men, so here too they convinced themselves from chapter 1 that the mind control was going to be a fakeout. So now they look for signs that suggest that the human girl has bamboozled the vampire (which might be true to some extent), and ignore the data points that suggest that the enthrallment was successful.

I admit I may have the opposite disposition (I tend to look for signs that the yuri is 'impure'), but I think vampire yuri is one of those areas where the more neutral observer who understands that enthrallment is a classic vampire ability -present in famous early examples of vampire fiction- would err on the side of questioning the consent of any human characters when enthrallment is invoked. Combine that with an author who has a history of writing dubcon in yuri, and the odds of the enthrallment being a total dud are not looking good.

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Does Miyagi get any better or should I just drop this?

Probably not the first time this has been asked here... I'll try to answer with only general spoilers from the web novel, without giving away any specific plot points.

Miyagi remains deeper in denial compared to Sendai; but as she falls for Sendai her attitude gets warmer too. But Miyagi does not completely stop being a "tsundere" and it usually falls on Sendai to push their relationship forward.

A general overview of the story, as it stands in volume 2:

Miyagi and Sendai start to hang out on a whim during the Summer of their junior year, but eventually (sometime around the Summer of their senior year) they hit a point of no return where it becomes impossible for them to just casually stop seeing each other, or to ignore the sexual tension between them. Miyagi is convinced that Sendai will want to stop seeing her after they graduate high school, and is afraid of getting her hopes up. Sendai does want to keep seeing Miyagi even after graduation, but she does not know how to convince Miyagi to trust her.

I'm sure some people just don't have the patience for a "high maintenance" character like Miyagi, but for everyone else the web novel should be a much more seamless experience. The translation by Ave Lilium (i.e. the good one) recently completed volume 3, so if you grab the epub files now, you can read in maximum comfort up to the Winter of the couple's third year (where graduation is just 3 months away).

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I would not want to be this much taller than my partner but these two are very cute together

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The Kamina and Simon reference made me realize there is a problematic self-esteem-gap between these girls. As I do not support problematic yuri, I will be dropping this series now. Thank you for understanding.

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I always enjoy getting my manga in a language I understand less than Japanese

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The play and Tsubame's part was rendered beautifully but there is an odd melancholy to it. It's nice to see this series again.

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This is such a neat idea. I will blame my food cravings on the spirits from now on

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Ayano is worried about Tsubaki and her lovely fiance tries to soothe her by explaining why human trafficking in okay as long as it involves people being merely sold instead of stolen...

I'd like to say the fact that he so flagrantly underestimates both Ayano and Tsubaki ('they can't do anything lol') does not bode well for him but I don't want to get too optimistic

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It's nice to see that they're such a cute couple as adults. The story definitely feels a bit bare bones to me? Like this was a pretty juicy dynamic but the plot rushed through every plot point so there was not enough time to really dig into it.

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Mai is hot af and they swapped contacts. Good enough for me

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I get it. The last time Frost pulled the sword on her they didn't know each other at all. Like it's still a bit crazy to just go for it but this is how Clarice rolls. The only way out is through!

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Typos in ch. 8?

Yeah, that kind of breakthrough that is too big to be erased completely.

  • [v1] Yeah, that's the kind of breakthrough that is too big to be erased completely.
  • [v2] Yeah, that kind of breakthrough is too big to be erased completely.

The fogginess surrounding that feeling suddenly cleared simply being saved wasn't satisfying.

  • [maybe a missing colon?] The fogginess surrounding that feeling suddenly cleared: simply being saved wasn't satisfying.
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Close enough, welcome back Tomoko Kuroki

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I was so worried something would go wrong. Not helped by Nagi Sumie being one of the spookiest leads ever in schoolgirl yuri.

i realised why is two of the best yuri of 2024 have a main character who is blonde but with reddish pink at the tips

Who is the other one?

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