Lmao this was pretty hilarious. I've always found Nene's reactions funny
When she was clinging to that wall, pretty sure she was stalking HaruYuzu lol

Also I always felt like Nene was a manifestation of Saburuta that secretly ships HaruYuzu.

In an ideal world, everyone would be with someone they are in love with. But this isn't the case most of the time.
So I understand Reiichi's pov. The thing is, even if they stayed together would he still be tempted to see Risako? And how would these lingering feelings affect his relationship with Kaoru. Could he eventually get over it, or would he become more miserable? Personally I think the first, if he took some time off away from Risako.

But I also don't believe that "learning to love someone" and being with them for a long time means it's better than dating someone you were in love with but broke up.
People just love convenience and simple things, and some don't like having very strong feelings for someone. So that's the companionship type of relationship, which is just friendship with sex. It's not romance.

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Isn't Yurika's campus life literally gay for pay though? Because she keeps stating that she's not interested in women but she needs the money, plus men don't like her at all.

It is real as it gets. Very evident is not all ships are in together at this point. IRL, most people don't end up together since they are afraid to confess. It takes a lot of courage from whatever point of view if you are serious about what is inside you. That anxiety/agony of knowing what is the unknown is too much for some people. Take the case of Moe and Hikari, Hikari's wide open arms in the hotspring is an invitation for Moe to be part of her life. She is just a simple girl who's contented to have somebody by her side(married men is also outside what is generally accepted to be with). By the mere fact that Moe didn't move forward and give an excuse to come late at night, gave Hikari the impression of "can't be" or a "stigma of unaccepted relationships". Moe is precious enough to Hikari, so, by not losing her, she made it easier for Moe the following day of not remembering the night. So, people IRL must take relationships without labeling. Love is just everything that it is competely nothing.

This analysis is very interesting. Especially the part about the married men. I was always interested in Hikari's character regarding that, because I felt like it showed an information about her in a less visible way, but I didn't look into it much.

I remember two other moments after the hot spring situation that can support this angle.
One when Moe was talking to that guy from the gym about going on a mixer and she was trying to hide it from Hikari, Hikari came behind them and the way her expression was drawn when she said "what are you guys talking about?" seemed extra nice and sweet and it was a bit suspicious. Like when you're being all too nice etc because you're trying to hide something.
The second was when Hikari started swooning over that older man who came to work, and when she was talking about him with Moe she also added "Besides, I don't want to keep causing trouble for you" which was most certainly referring to how Moe struggled after almost kissing her and then was gone for a full night.

I liked this pairing because of how they started. Moe was genuinely supportive of Hikari in trying to get over the manager without any other hidden motive, and I found it very refreshing, since a love interest would just be all angsty in that type of situation, thinking "why can't they love me instead"
All in all, it's funny because it turns out Hikari was the one who knew more about Moe's feelings than vice versa, since she was always the one portrayed as the less bright.

Did she really have to have that wedding in the end though? Axed or not, this is a shit ending.

I'll just go ahead with a headcanon and think Hikari divorces her husband after a couple of years and finally gets with Moe. Bye thnx.

Is no one gonna talk about Hikari remembering what the snacks tasted like when she's supposed to not remember what happened that night she was "smashed"? That smile she had when she mentioned those snacks gave me the same vibes as Moe's reminiscing.

I might be jumping into conclusions but I wouldn't be surprised if Hikari indirectly lied about not remembering her and Moe's almost make-out session. I mean... Hikari has been shown to put up a front with her cheerfulness.

Yeah, that's what I had thought too when that chapter had originally come out, and this one just confirms it.
It just shows she always knew how Moe felt.

I think people are not talking about it because it doesn't change anything. We can see she had some type of feelings too, but they weren't enough. She liked fooling around with Moe but she never wanted anything more.
I think these two couples in this chapter are the parallel to the Aya x Risa and Miyu x Nozomi situation.
It just goes to show that the ones who end up together are the ones who fought for it.

Also I do think that if Moe was a guy and Hikari felt the same type of attraction (or not?) for Moe, they'd actually end up confessing. But this just really highlights the fact that they were both girls and how that actually did play a part.

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That moment where Moe is just telling people at the wedding about how she fell in love with Hikari as if it's a funny story... I don't mind that they're not a couple, but that's really awkward... Maybe it's just because it's so abrupt idk

Also, please do not harass creators. Unfortunately this is something that needs to be said

She's not actually telling them. The parts where she talks about being in love is what she's thinking, that's why they're outside of the box.

My best guess is that potential readers are far more tolerant than you and don't move in absolutes and the black or white specter. This manga was axed because it was dragging already, not because it had het in it.

Lol this part shows you haven't really read this manga. You are absolutely guessing out of thin air that this manga was axed because it was dragging. No one knows why, but if you pay close attention to the chapter where Aya and Risa fight and then make up right after that, it's pretty evident that their development was very sudden. We were even guessing after that chapter that the story might end soon, because their arc felt way too rushed.

And I never said this manga was axed because it had het? We even had het with Hikari over a year ago, with that whole situation with the manager. And I didn't care about that het back then because it made sense with her character and we weren't even that deep into the Moe x Hikari thing.

The problem is the fact that the author was romantically developing them for a long time, and then suddenly after the hot spring chapter we are here now, with Hikari getting married.
I would be upset even if this was a woman Hikari married in the end, because the whole story completely changed direction suddenly.

That's the whole point of fantasy and stories, it's about escapism,

Not always

I'm talking about this specific story here, not about every single manga. The story was already about escapism by making all of them have some gay feelings. Even the new manager was gay.

not smacking reality into the reader's face.

Yes, there are stories doing particular that. Especially with angst tag

There is no angst tag here. When I go to the MUL manga I expect to get a het development and romantic feelings. I don't care if the mc won't be gay. It has made itself clear of what it's going to be about right from the start.

I don't really care about het stories because it honestly brings a bit of a sense of reality to yuri mangas. Actually the "everyone, even the fridge, is gay" are the ones putting me off.

Maybe start reading het stories if everyone is gay bothers you. That's the whole point of fantasy and stories, it's about escapism, not smacking reality into the reader's face.
And ok, have a het couple if you want it so much, just don't play along with the readers by making them ship the yuri pairing.

the message of the manga is supposed to be: "if you fall in love with a girl it won't work anyway, the girl will end up marrying a guy"
because it makes me feel sick '-'

Yeah, the truth is this stereotype happens very often irl. We don't need to have fantasy stories hijacked too.

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A word of advice: Don't write a Yuri manga if you are going to give the couple a het ending. Just, do the community a favour, and fuck off. Please. Go indulge yourself in writing purely het crap.

The author was already starting to promote het stories since months ago.
This is bad marketing, you can't advertise het stories to a yuri audience. But I don't know, maybe the audience in Japan is different, because in this chapter's comments I didn't see anyone complaining about the ending, and we're just foreigners that won't even usually buy it.

It's a low hit, because even for a het ending stories, it is always developed a certain way. Like for example My Unrequited Love. It's yuri but at the same time the author has made it clear what it's about.
The worst you can do is develop them as a couple so people start shipping them, and then do a 180 degree turn.
This manga was in my top 3 of all the yuri that I've read, so it's really disappointing. I'll pretend this didn't even happen, but I'm not coming back to read it again.

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Honestly, I feel like the author planned this ending from the start and not because it was axed. It was always a bit weird how we never saw Hikari's thoughts and her reciprocating more than just the pretend couple thing, contrary to Moe.
Imagine getting another 30+ chapters only for an anon kun coming towards the end and we having to endure Moe cheering for Hikari and getting this fake happy ending of her being happy for Hikari.
Also from the way this chapter was written, it feels like the author is trying to pass this off as something positive?

I'm glad it was axed.

Sorry but I'm very bitter of the ending. Just because it was axed doesn't mean the author had to make Hikari get married! Ffs, this is literally the first time I've ever see someone from a so called yuri story marrying a man in the end.

The closest to a bait I remember was Kumiko and Reina, but the author of Hibike never claimed it was a yuri story.
There's one more chapter left for the remaining two, but with this type of ending for Moe and Hikari, I'm pretty sure we're taking a similar bullshit for Miyu and Nozomi

Also the author seems to be making het stories now, so no wonder
https://mobile.twitter.com/kisugae/status/1277959086013739009?p=v

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UMMMMMM

What the actual FUCK IS THIS ENDING?!?!?

I'm also waiting for the almighties one to come make fun of peoples being serious. They're always lurking in the shadows waiting for that

Personally I agree that in this particular case, the whole gender hiding situation is not meant to be malicious and it's just comedy.
However I can see why some people might find it concerning. I think the author was pretty aware of it too, and it's not a coincidence they made them kiss after Ookuma found out Kanda is a girl.

Despite that, I find the whole logic of "it's fiction and you are never supposed to read it a certain way/take anything seriously or view it from a real life perspective" faulty.
Because it's impossible to never talk about characters and a story from a realistic pov, or a moral lens.
Ironically, I've never seen anyone having a problem criticizing the morals of a story with, for example, cheating or how they dislike the behavior of a character. Why doesn't this "rule" apply there too? It seems like people only use it when it's convenient.

The rain as sort of spawning a change in their relationship or a realization

I think the rain represents her general depression over life as well as her marriage. Because in the beginning she says how much she hates it. And then when she keeps meeting with the girl it is always sunny. The weather reflects her mood and how it changes by being around that girl. In the end she says how it doesn't bother her that much anymore, which shows that she is more able to face the difficulties in life now, because she's with the umbrella borrower chan.

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Why are one shots generally better than a lot of series? This story hits right into the heart.

Also I can't help but wonder how possible situations like this are irl? I find it pretty bizarre how two strangers would just keep meeting into the station every week for no reason, and then suddenly one tries to kiss the other and catch feelings. But anyway, one shots have to move too fast, so the plot gets shaped accordingly. We never learned their names either lol.

Lmao that twist in the end was supposed to be romantic, but it gave me a horror story type of twist.
Like someone meets a little girl who's lost in the street and take her home, but when they go back to their house and talk about it with their family, they find out that girl had died years ago.

Anyway, even before the twist in the end I had a feeling Kurokawa was actually waiting for Fujishiro all throughout the supplementary lessons and the library was an excuse too.

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It's time for Hayate to be the aggressive one in this couple and go save Honey-san. Also make their chemistry better because we only had Honey showing her feelings so far. I think Hayate still sees her as a friend

Whaaat? That's really cool...KnM was the first
yuri anime I've watched and also liked a lot

Wowww I didn't expect for the reveal to happen (so soon), but that's for the better. Ookuma's face is pretty hilarious after the reveal

Either the author manage to wrap up 2 couples in bad shape plus the age gap one or some couples will have a bad ending.

We have Tsubasa x Iwashita and Hikari x Moe left, so I'd guess the last two chapters will be about them. I feel like Hikari x Moe and Miyu x Nozomi will have a bad or unsatisfying ending at best...

There really seems to be a reason behind this, because it happened so suddenly. No way the flow of the story feels like this was planned to be over this soon. Maybe author has issues with their publisher or something...
At least best waifus Aya and Risa got the ending they deserved ;-;

https://twitter.com/YuriIchigoScans/status/1272136338393796608

Series ends in two chapters.

NO! FUCK WHY

Wtf...so they really won't end up together...also what about Hikari and Moe....

Man I had a feeling this might be over soon ever since I saw how fast the Risa and Aya arc was solved ;-; ;-;

Upon reading this chapter again, I've noticed Miyu saying Nozomi's kindness changed her. Interesting, this seems like it tackles the reason why Miyu loves her, and we never had any clue about it before. I wonder if the author intends to show that into a greater depth, because it definitely sounds like something that can and should be addressed.

Also
-I love you
-I want to stay friends too

Given her response to that, Nozomi's interpretation of Miyu would be "Despite me leaving, I love you(as a good friend) and I want to keep in touch with you regardless"

If this was real life, Kaoru would be straight with a very tiny possibility of being bi.
This is a manga, so the fact that this possibility even exists, automatically makes it equally possible, because stories always show extraordinary types of situations and the author can write whatever narrative they want and make it fit.

But no way she is fully gay. She's bi at best.