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Lol, at least they had sex

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I wanna see the flashback, that's cool. However, considering what future Elsa told Yvonne she apparently has to do something in the past to prevent the wolf demon attack.

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We already know how this will go. I just hope it's a red herring and things don't actually go as planned. As you've said everything has been told in the story so wouldn't it be interesting to have something unexpted happen? What if Yvonne can't kiss Elsa but something else happens? In any case how is Yvonne supposed to go back to her current time?
Maybe she grows up in this timeline now and they fall in love again buy differently.

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Yeah totally, I think the time travel idea isn't bad at all its just the timing and the immediate lead up to it that I found jaring too. I think time travel stories can be really interesting in making you question certain things. I'd really like Elsa to not be as interested in Yvone this time around and see how Yvone deals with that. I don't know but I really want to see something truly dramatic and conflicting.

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I am not complaining, this is simply my opinion. In any case, I will refrain from being negative since everyone seems to enjoy the story as it is.

Since you're convinced of your viewpoint, if I may give a bit of criticism as to the type of comment you (and others) have been making, and the lack of useful discussion it creates.
No one is against negativity. You can dislike the story, but dislike something real. Critique the actual story chapter in front of you, then people can engage with you on the merits of your criticism and arguments, rather than just on what you think the finished product may or may not be at the conclusion of this plotline.

I might have speculated a bit too much. However I might even unfairly critique something if I simply focus on the actual chapter, right? I could say that I dislike the time traveling going far that back and having all that exposition thrown at us, for example (not that I do dislike it truly, it's just an example) and I might be completely ignoring what this could be possibly building up to.
I don't think I should be bringing too much negativity here if people enjoy the story. In general, without trying to focus too much on this particular comic it is my opinion that stories are made much more compelling by focusing on an ideological conflict, for example "the villainess can't be with the heroine" and building up arguments and counterarguments regarding that conflict. If that conflict is disregarded for high fantasy and time travel I do not enjoy the story as much, even a light hearted pull and push is more interesting for me personally to read, which is not to say it should be dragged to eternity either. In the end I do not know, whether this conflict is supposedly surmounted by now, whether it will be touched upon again later or whether another one will emerge. So maybe I'm wrong.

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I am not complaining, this is simply my opinion. In any case, I will refrain from being negative since everyone seems to enjoy the story as it is.

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Haha, just imagine that it's already past twelve so it's too dangerous for a high school girl to wander alone!

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I don't remember anything about a village attack being mentioned. I read back and Yvonne says they'll be meeting the race of demons, which they did. Did I miss something? Maybe I did, not sure.
Faye tells the wolves something along the lines of "why are you attacking your master?"
For me the main plot was how to get rid of the villainess system and it feels like it got sidetracked in favor of the actual "game plot".

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it had nothing to do with demons...

The demon king was introduced as one of the original romance options already in chapter 2...

It's just rushed. I'm not surprised there are demons. Of course there are. But all of the sudden Faye's
demon wolves are attacking the village for some reason and all of a sudden this is a major plot point that caused Yvonne to be killed in the previous timeline.
The romance options are mentioned and are barely relevant to the plot for so much of the story then Faye appears. Her backstory is barely touched upon and we are thrown back into the past with no explanation whatsoever. It breaks the continuity for me.
I mean sure, usually these fantasy games have a larger adventure plot but it was never really touched upon what that plot was. All we got was that Elsa was supposed to meet her destined soulmate.

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In my opinion I didn't mind Elsa going to the past as much as the weird "evil/demon wolf" plot that got thrown in there out of the blue. I mean of course I never had high expectations of this as a plot but I hoped it wouldn't venture too much in the adventure and world building territory because that's its weak point. True, there was always a darker element hinted at, which I enjoyed only... it had nothing to do with demons... or wolves. It all had to do the the villainess system and how it was preventing Elsa and Yvonne from being together. Maybe the wolves are related to the system but at this point I don't think the story can be salvaged...
Yvonne going to the past hopefully won't last long and we'll fast forward to them as teenagers again so I don't mind. As others have set this point was well set up, with Yvonne not remembering her past fully. However the way they contrived to make her go to the past is just dumb. There should have been some other reason. The typical plot for the villainess story is how the villainess ends up being prosecuted and to be honest I wouldn't have minded seeing that plot again because it works. The village rebels against the nobles and Yvonne needs to escape to the past. I mean that's the whole point of her being a villainess, right? If no one is against her really then what is the point? She's just a random mean girl.
Anyway I hope we move on from this and the story moves forward showing us how Yvonne tries to woo Elsa, who maybe this time could be more mild about her feelings, who knows? Turn the tables or something. Make them have a normal romance. Yvonne plays it up, saying she likes to bully her for fun and we go back to the kinky stuff. I mean to be honest... that's what I liked the most. Of course it's not gonna be full on but, even the fluff by itself is not that interesting, it's just fun to see Yvonne bullying Elsa. I don't care lol. Okay, I wrote too much, bye, haha.

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This series was so cute with all the suggestive bullying. There was no foreshadowing to the evil wolves and this whole saving the world from some random wolves seems so contrived. I'm so sorry but the story was better when it didn't take itself too seriously. Well, anyway the main couple is still cute.

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It's not yuri, it's gay! XD

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Ahhh, god this hit close to home. Unfortunately it always ends more bitter than sweet in real life lol

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The real kicker is that it's not very common for the wider wlw community to be explored in yuri manga, and this one just tosses in a grooming subplot that takes place in a lesbian bar, and it's mostly played for comedy. Haha, isn't it goofy that she doesn't reject any girls regardless of their age? Funniest shit I've ever seen!

This manga could've had real potential I now realize. If for example instead of offering her money Aya simply challenges her and Marika had simply accepted the challenge because she was so convinced it wouldn't work. Maybe Aya is aloof but popular instead so Marika's reasoning is that she will improve her social status.
Then remove the rapey scenes. Aya says let's do it and Marika accepts like "okay, sure but I'm not gonna like it" or "I kept fantasizing about guys all the way through".
Also make them be in college or something so that threesomes and stuff sound more believable.
And remove Karen or make her normal anw.

If you remove all the problematic stuff the story isn't all that bad and the sex scenes aren't bad either. It's just... Manga has this obsession with blurry lines of consent that I'm starting to get tired of. It's time to move on from that.

Faylicia
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Sure nice fantasy... I couldn't help but feel uneasy though...

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Predatory Karen aside (gross) I reeaaaally didn't expect to find such a healthy way of dealing with and resolving conflict within a relationship in a trashy porn manga. Usually the drama is contrived and drags an issue forever when it should have been resolved ages ago by just talking.

Faylicia
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Oh god!!! Nineteen!!! So she really is nineteeeeeeen!! Would I date a nineteen year old girl? Um... heck no!!! But what if she was cool like that?! Would I?! No way, right?!

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Lol, please make out. What's wrong with Mei? And why isn't it being addressed? She went from sexually assaulting Yuzu to being a naive maiden that won't even give her a peck facepalm

Faylicia
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Spoil us!! Haha

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I think the "but we're both girls" trope is a lot more realistic than pretending being gay is the default in the story. Like the person above me said a girl might be worried about losing her friend and she doesn't even bother to think if said friend is into girls without having asked. At some point I just can't even suspend my disbelief. And then all the side characters turn out to be gay too?
Sure, it's a bit tiring to have to go through that denial phase in every story but given the high school setting I think that's the normal thing to go through. I went through it and a lot of people living in more homophobic environments did as well...
Not sure if the main characters here are aware of being gay. The main character seems like she likes looking at cute girls without giving it much deep thought but I may be wrong... The other one seems like she might know she likes girls but hides it for the most part and tries to get close to the protagonist since she felt a connection. At least that's how I read it.

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Faylicia
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Omg! That caught me by surprise! Why aren't more people commenting on this masterpiece!? It could literally be an indie film, it's so good.

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I think the witch might be the player that plays as Elsa after she regained her memories. Elsa is a person irl but she lost her memories when she went into the game unlike Yvone and when the bad ending happened she regained them and became the witch who went back in time. At least that's my theory.
Oooor Elsa is actually a person irl and the promise she made with Yvone wasn't in the game at all.

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Hahahha back when we still had wire earphones

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Yeah people, I only know Radiohead by name! I wouldn't recognize any of the songs haha
Maybe I should go listen to them now lol!!!

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I hope this ends up making some sense lol
Why would future Elsa want to drug Evie? At least the present Elsa had some misgivings.