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okay, insert random cheating into story...

Eh, it's only cheating if it's against their rules, and we don't know what their rules are. Their relationship is pretty vague and Tae seems to have hangups about taking it seriously because it's not "normal".

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Random cheating/polyamory out of nowhere is one of the things you just have to accept when reading Kurogane Ken.

Also, what makes you think Tae's trying to get a boyfriend? She's never said anything that would indicate that. The reason she refuses to kiss was made clear in chapter 3, where she got so turned on just from her lips brushing Jimiko's that she couldn't stand up (though that does bring up the question of why she's fine performing cunnilingus if her lips are really that sensitive...).

I think it's more of an issue of embarassment and arousal. If she kisses, she starts wanting sex desperately. If she's already going down on somebody, she's kind of past that hurdle.

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She’s the most smug tsundere ever. The fact that the bully’s friends are completely confused makes this even better

"I-is this part of the joke? Are we also supposed to-"
"NO KEEP YER HANDS OFF 'ER!"

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im not crying yur cryings shutup

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Wait for me Nami-san maybe one day I can buy a phone and talk with you anytime

That is true but seeing someone irl is kind of different from talking to them on the phone, especially if you're so busy you can only text

or more simply, they are both working adults, so if they love each other, why they aren't living together already ?

It gives the impression that Nami is worried about Mizuki being dependent on her. She likes her, but doesn't want to see Mizuki languish in a low-paying job without living up to her potential.

Basically, this story is about kicking her out of the nest so she'll learn to fly.

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lmao this was so over the top. the superiority complex thing, the mini love triangle between yuu, emi and the one guy, the kicking of the fucking chair just because he complimented her, this is just too much dude

He didn't just compliment her, he was hitting on her, and coming on pretty strong at that. He was crowding in really close. Honestly, it kinda seemed like Yuu was uncomfortable with it. And the part after that, where he refers to Emi without an honoriffic? That implies that they're close. He's already tried to put the moves on Emi, but he's still actively hitting on Yuu.

So first, he's making Yuu visibly uncomfortable. Second, he's hitting on the best friend of the girl he's supposed to be pursuing, and third, he's hitting on Yuu, who Emi is possessive about.

If you ask me, he deserved it for the first two, even though the third one is probably her main reason. The irony is he's almost certainly going to assume it's over the second one.

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What is "I won't give up on the people of this world" supposed to mean? From what I can tell, the Demon King's plan to eradicate humanity is shaping up to be a smashing success, and Isuzu apparently has no problem with being his pawn.

Unless I missed something, just another plot hole.

It's not a plot hole, she's just twisted. that "I won't give up on them" is from the perspective of someone who -wants- them to turn into a Yuritopia where men are demonized.

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Wait, I thought kissing while one was asleep didn't cause a swap ? Now I'm confused.

She woke up during the kiss, enabling the swap.

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This was a bit too ridiculous for my tastes on too many levels. Where does she even take all the items from without sempai noticing she had them readily piled up nearby? Does she have a Bag of Holding? And why is the igloo bigger on the inside than it looked from the outside? Nvm everything else already mentioned ...

They were piled up next to the thing. We see Miko retrieving them in panel 3 of page 2. Tae just probably didn't pay much mind to what she thought was just a pile of junk left by the neighbors. The beers and snacks could easily have been in her pockets, or maybe in a small bag nearby.

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Also how does this girl EAT, if the slightest little brush against her lips is enough to get her super horny?

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Wouldnt they get killed if electricity travelled through the water?

It's USB powered. no usb device is powerfull enough to even hurt a little.

Yeah, but USB powered off of what? Does the Kotatsu have USB ports?

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I can't say I have ever seen a doujin of any kind where characters have sex in a snowhut/igloo. I can't say I'm not ok with this. Although, cold does a really good job of numbing your nerves, and would probably make it hard to get off if one stayed exposed for more than a few minutes.

That's what the kotatsu is for! Also body warmth. The entire point of a snow hut is it insulates you from the outside air and keeps the people inside nice and toasty.

Yes but with the kotatsu and everything wouldn't the snow/ice start smelting way too fast? I'm not an igloo/icehut expert but I mean, it didn't look that strong of a build. They didn't use separate blocks as it is usually done, which makes it weaker from the start, and tbh it was tiny as f.ck. it's like they minimized when they entered the hut. But as is fiction so i'm gonna stop applying logic haha

If it's cold enough outside (and evidently it is, since it's still snowing) then heat will conduct away from the interior of the walls fast enough that the snow doesn't have a chance to melt. The inuit would warm the inside of their igloo with fires. This is a little less robust than an igloo, but It's plausible it could hold up for awhile, at least until the weight of the extra snow collapses it or the weather changes enough to melt it.

Actually, the biggest problem they've got here is putting themselves in a confined space without any ventilation. (they didn't cut any ventilation holes, and they blocked the entrance with a door) It'd start feeling stuffy pretty quick, and if they're not careful they could get carbon dioxide poisoning (That said it shouldn't be too hard for them to dig their way out if they start feeling weird)

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I can't say I have ever seen a doujin of any kind where characters have sex in a snowhut/igloo. I can't say I'm not ok with this. Although, cold does a really good job of numbing your nerves, and would probably make it hard to get off if one stayed exposed for more than a few minutes.

That's what the kotatsu is for! Also body warmth. The entire point of a snow hut is it insulates you from the outside air and keeps the people inside nice and toasty.

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Kaoru is getting on my nerves. This chapter was really good (one of the fewer we have abt “explanations”), but the more it passes, the more i hate Kaoru’s personality.

Her desperate need to “keep” a family is just ruining everything by her lack of communication and thinking that if she just ignores everything then its gonna be alright. Uta is supposedly the person she loves (in a maternal/sisterly way) and she decided to ignore the fact that Uta confessed and romantically loves her in order to keep her image of family. Her presence is bad for Uta and instead of acting like the adult she is, she just... pretend nothing happened. When i read the first page “we both need to change” i got the hope that Kaoru will eventually stops being so passive with her feelings and actually confront her problems. also this housewife life she lives is just sad. she doesnt do anything, i kinda feel bad. i would say she is the burden and not uta LOL

That's not necessarily fair. She lives at home and maintains a house for two people (other than herself), she cooks and cleans despite having an injured leg that isn't entirely healed. We know she meets with friends, we know she just recently left a part-time job in order to concentrate on her jewelry crafting business that she runs out of her home. Everything that's wrong with her life actually stems from the fact that her husband married her, evidently, more out of guilt than out of love. I wouldn't expect that to stay under the radar much longer, either.

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Wow, puzzling. I guess I thought they had already had sex in the previous chapter. When they spent the night together for the first time.
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/dear_my_teacher_ch08#45

I guess not.

She says it was wholesome on that exact page. She isn't being sarcastic, she's saying she slept over but they didn't do anything.

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No, no, it's Finé, not "fine". ;p

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Chapter 1: This seems cutesy, wonder where it'll go.
Chapter 2: time to call an exorcist

Yeah... she, uh... has some issues.

I guess it's time to boldly declare that I was right. The repressed desire is clearly doing terrible things to Miya's mental well-being. Her very life may be at stake.

Thing is I'm pretty certain if she'd just make a move, it'd be well received, but she's convinced herself that Sempai is just humoring her and that she's satisfied with how things are.

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Did they -write- M/F, or was it one of those applications that expects you to circle one?

Wow, and you accused me of not reading with comprehension.

I asked you to read what I was actually saying because I felt like you weren't paying attention to my arguments.

But you're totally right, I -completely- misread this whole conversation and I'm not actually sure how, looking at it in retrospect.

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(responding to a bunch of stuff in one post)

The mother's line about Uta stabbing her in the back a few times was also interesting. It seems like there's more to that then we've seen.

I don't know that there's much -there- there. I mean, we know Uta chose to live with her dad rather than her mom after the split, then when she couldn't deal with her dad, she chose to go live with Kaoru and Reiichi. That -could- be the sum of it, and I think it probably is, although it's also possible she sided against her in the whole Kaoru's mom debacle, whatever happened with that, but if that were the case, is it likely she'd be trying to mend fences right now?

I feel like my biggest problem is this is just going to drag on. I mean, the whole cheating thing and her getting injured was chapter 10. We've gone more than an entire volume with her just doing her best to ignore that, and nothing more being learned about it. Instead we got new conflict of the confession which again was largely ignored and not really confronted or dealt with. And now we're getting the mother and some reveals with the past that's been vaguely referenced before, but what's really going to happen with that? I'll bet on a whole bunch of nothing all over again.

This is like the Lost of yuri manga. Just instead of jumping from one mystery that never gets resolved to the next, it jumps from a bunch of drama that never actually gets dealt with to the next.

We just resolved a BUNCH of mysteries, though. And I honestly don't feel like there was much mystery. Reiichi is CLEARLY having an affair with Risako. Now we have a pretty good idea of why. She hasn't dealt with it, sure, but she got hit with another bombshell before she had a chance for a second go at confronting Reiichi about it, and honestly it's not that odd for someone to avoid bringing up something like this. I expect it will explode again the next time Rei does something suspicious or neglectful.

Also the confession didn't get ignored. It was a major part of the subtext of the last couple chapters.

Yup. Still getting my head around all this info, though. First, I haven't re-read this all in a while--did we have any previous idea, hint, or clue that the mom was a medical doctor and had anything to do with Kaoru's family except knowing them?

We knew Kaoru's mom had passed, and we knew that someone in Reiichi's family had done something Rei and Uta had felt guilty about. I was assuming that there was an affair involved, (putting Reiichi in a cycle of taking after an unfaithful parent) We knew Uta hated both her parents, but not really why. The subtext was also that Rei married Kaoru out of guilt motivated by whatever happened.

If the answer is no, it's easy for me to imagine that we could have had a story where we were given much more substantial hints about the basic situation all along, (thus explaining why these people were thrashing around like this), and still had a significant revelation scene when the mom actually made her appearance.

In short: a lot of things make a whole lot more sense now; did they really need to not make total sense for as long as they did?

I didn't feel like they "didn't make total sense". It was clear there was something there, we just didn't know what it was yet. There are a lot of subtle clues that are much clearer now.

This is similar in many ways to how when it was revealed that Rei was cheating with Risako, a bunch of subtle little things from their earlier appearances and behaviors suddenly had a new context that seemed obvious in retrospect.

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Also, if I recall correctly, the title of this manga is actually "My love that won't reach", and in that respect, one could suppose it is actually referring to most if not all of the characters in the manga. Virtually everyone in here has some feeling of love that is either rebuffed, unrequited, forbidden, or half requited.

I don't know if the author is going for tragedy, though, or if they're just putting the happy ending on the far side of a lot of drama, but either way, I mean, one of those two is clearly what the author appears to be going for with this, so...YMMV? I'm honestly enjoying trying to get into the heads of the characters, personally.

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A side comment on something that was brought up earlier, but I always thought "Kuro" had an odd name. Like that isn't a japanese person's name, it isn't a common name in many countries. In fact, it's literally the kind of thing you'd name a dog. After seeing it pointed out that the katakane is クロエ, I am pretty certain her name is "Chloe". So probably not much of a parallel between her name and Kaoru.

As for earlier questions as to why the side relationship between Kuro and Miyabi was brought up, if it was me writing it, I'd guess it was probably to head off speculation that Uta will rebound to Kuro?

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OHHHH.

a loooot of things just fell into place. I don't know how anybody is gonna look at -this- chapter and say things aren't moving. Look, if you're in it to see them fuck, just go the hell away, this isn't for you. If you're here for the story, there were a lot of bombshells dropped in this episode. We just pretty much found out what's up with EVERYBODY's issues.

Kaoru's mom died, and Uta's mom, her doctor, who knew her personally, (old friends? Lovers? Next door neighbors? Who knows at this point,) apparently got blamed for it professionally, lost her license to practice medicine, and skipped the country for five years to start over abroad. Uta's parents split up over it, and Uta went to live with her dad, but couldn't deal with him (probably because he was reeling from the whole thing himself) and so she came to live with her brother and his wife. Reiichi married Kaoru because he feels like it's his duty to look after her after his mom was apparently responsible for Kaoru's mom passing, so he put aside his actual feelings for Risako, who now resents the whole situation.

Also it's now confirmed that yes, there was a confession. Honestly, coming back to this topic after so long, I was surprised to see there was so much contention on this. I guess it's because I had already made the assumption that if we came back to a jump forward instead of the cliffhanger scene itself, that meant Uta had confessed, but I thought the manga was pretty clear on that front. But now we know for sure. Uta confessed, Kaoru smiled and blew it off, and probably lapsed straight into denial the same way she did with Reiichi's cheating.

"Oh, she must mean that she loves me as a sister. I'm going to ignore that she was just telling me about her romantic love for a married person. I must be misunderstanding something. I wonder if she likes her teacher, or somebody from work? Or...Oh, fuck, who am I kidding. My husband is banging my best friend and my sister-in-law is in love with me. Oh, hi, mom-in-law that apparently killed my mother via medical malpractice. Good timing."

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Wow, Miya is über gay. And was the senpai's name not mentioned or did I just not catch it?

It seems to be Inou Sa-something. Miya keeps trying to call her by name but chickens out every time. We got her family name from the scene with the delivery-girl.

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I'm not into trap thing since I prefer Yuri but this kinda cute ahaha , but my question is since Mogu gender is M.F does that mean mogu can choose what he/she wants down there if bird or cat(if you know what I mean) ahahaha ,like the guy in UQ holder.

Not sure if someone else answered it, but that's the space where you circle Male or Female on the employment application. Mogu circled neither.

Right. That make more sense. I thought they wrote M/F to avoid picking one, but instead it was already written there and sister thought Mogu forgot to fill it.

Did they -write- M/F, or was it one of those applications that expects you to circle one?

I ask because it seems a bit weird that they'd put both when identifying as neither. When I read it, I thought it was one where it shows M/F and expects you to circle one, hence the "oversight" was the decision to not circle one.

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Using the word "homo" is considered offensive? English isn't my first language and I just see everybody using "gay" moust of the time, so if someone can confirm to me if what Mei said is true or if is just a localization thing I would be thankful.

I'll give you the breakdown from my perspective: Where I live, (center of the American midwest) "Homo" is pretty exclusively used as a derogatory slur. "Gay" is pretty much correct/neutral, but it's all in the tone of voice and the context. "Homosexual" is clinical and is rarely ill-intended. Most bigots don't resonate well with multisyllabic words. "Queer" largely depends on who is saying it and in what context. It used to be a slur, but it's been more or less reclaimed by the LGBT community. I sometimes joke that "Hey, that's our word.", but really as long as it isn't being used in an offensive context, I don't think it's particularly bad. It should be pretty obvious from context that the various "F"-words are always NOT COOL.