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Seju's POV;
Having a familly that dispises you and calls you "it" when they are referring to you.
Having noone else who loves you besides Sumin and maybe that creepy guy you was obsessed with her.
Trying to do a good deed for her girlfriend, so she gives her parents free tickes for USA. They die on that trip.
Girlfriend getting depressed and think it's her fault (even if she doesn't say it) that her parents died.
She is acting very cold and Seju thinks she's going to lose the only person that loves her and considers as familly
She feels guilty over Sumin's parents death, get drunk and ends up screwing the only good relationship in her life
Sumin leaves her and is trying to hurt her by having Seju listening to when she is having sex with other women
Sumin still comes back to Seju when her relationships fail
Seju gives Sumin a high paying job and expensive gifts like her car
Sumin finds a cuter girl and Seju's chances of getting back at the only woman she loved vanish
Her father is sick and there are chances of him dying. So she loses both Sumin and her dad in the end.
Nami magically fixing Seju because she's now the only person that shows a romantic interest in her.

Gaji sure has made Seju suffer a lot. Her story is so sad, it's really going to be very cruel if they give her a bad ending on top of that. Only Sumin deserves good things happening to her?

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I love the Sumin and Sungji cuteness, but I think what would stop people from being bored is if ,Sumin deflowered

Lol. Nah I think Gaji is keeping Sungji's purity to make things more intense. Kinda feels like they are dragging it a little too. It seems that they are focusing on developing their romance instead of the sex, which is good for their relationship.

Seol-A going after No-Rae vs Sumi going after Sungji feels completely different, even though it's the same action. So I agree wdtfs should stay as it is, no need to try and combine all of these.
As for Nami, I'm not sure if I would ever like her even if we saw more of her part. She reminds me of these mischievous girls that can do nasty things to get with someone.

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I think it's most probably going to be Sumin/Sungji in the end. Although I dissagree about the definition of happy endings.
Just because the story has developed around their relationship, this does not automatically mean the happy ending is them ending up together.
There are other morals a reader can get from a story besides two protagonists living happy ever after. Everyone gets heartbroken at some point in their lives but they find the strength to move on. Otherwise everyone would remain depressed after their first break up. To me this is a good moral for a story too. Not that this will happen, just talking in general.
Good endings are not always black or white, happy or sad.There is also the inbetween which makes them more realistic and maybe relatable.
Besides, following this logic why take time to develop Seju's character when she's going to have a bad ending since she's not going to be with Sumin? They could just make her character a little less important, or at least stop showing all of these flashbacks of them together, but they still chose to make her a protagonist with a not good looking future.

I'm not saying Sumin will dump Sungji because she's inexperienced, nor that Sungji has to leave Sumin because she has to have more experiences. But I can't help but think how their relationship would work in the future. Like after 5 years. Of course they could make it work, but there are still some important differences between them besides the age. Sumin is a very broken person and can sometimes be dark. Sungji on the other hand is all naive and a sunshine.

Maybe Sumin was feeling bad about what happened, but I think she went to Sungji's town mostly because she missed her. Because when Sungji left, Sumin thought to herself "I've never been apart from her for a day" and she was looking at the fox. Seems pretty much that she was missing her.

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No matter how much i see it i just can't imagin sumin and sungi is end game ... [...]

I think the same could apply for Sungji, I don't think it seems like very good writing to introduce a protagonist just to have her get heartbroken and move the focus onto some other character.

Happy endings don't always mean the two protagonists ending up with each other. A happy ending can be someone growing up and lerning from their experiences too

I agree with Layla that Sungji is still 10 years younger than Sumin, and this is also her first relationship.
Being 24 would be better to have some experiences with people/lovers before settling down.
Or course there are also people who have been married to their first love and can stay happy with them. But personally I think the growing up choice is better in a lot of times

I'm not sure about the way Sumin went after Sungji after just one day. This to me seems more like need than love. Sure, Sumin does love Sungji, but the way she acted seemed like she couldn't stand being alone and ran after her. Even if someone is madly in love, if they are healthy they can handle being apart from their lover.
I'm not sure what the writers are trying to do with this, but to me it comes off as need. But Gaji could still see this a falling more and more in love.

As for Seju, I will be pished if she ends up with Nami. She hasn't shown any interest at her all, and if they suddenly pull this it will be sucky writing and forced.

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This scene Sumin going after Sungji reminded me of Seol-A going after No-Rae. Do Gaji read FF too? haha
But their motivations feel different though. I gotta say Sumin seems a little codependent in her relationships

MacySan
Magan&Danai discussion 10 Feb 09:45
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MacySan I think you read the same chapters as are here because our "first" chapter here contains more than one story (maybe I will reupload it and will make one story = 1 chapter)

Also it doesn't have regular updates. Author draw it when she wants ^^ I have 4 or 5 more chapters to edit so it will be updated soon

Ohh ok thanks :D

MacySan
Magan&Danai discussion 10 Feb 08:56
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Is this one complete or does it get an update every month or so? I've read until chapter 11 elsewhere but there is nothing beyond that

MacySan
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When I first saw the characters I thought they remind me of Minakata's design...and then I saw it is actually her xD
Is that a new manga? new chapters coming?

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LOL this one ^ is so funny xD (and true...)

It kinda reminded me of Claw Face from Inspector Gadget calling them

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I wonder if No-rae's sister will finally make an appearance?

just missing her to come to see that between "the two" there is love ... ahh haaahh

What if that really happens in next chapter? It is actually possible, since No-Rae asked Seol-A to come with her in her house when her brother called (and interrupted the kiss :P)

I think FF plot moves slowly but steadily in general, which means if something pretty major happens, like the almost kiss, I don't think it would start going back again. Just like the previous chapter where No-Rae was really worried and hugged Seol-A, which was a step forward development since No-Rae never showed her emotions like this. And now she almost kissed Seol-A, so it seems that the develpment is moving forward.
I do think that No-Rae's brother calling right now is on purspose so Seol-A will meet her future in laws...I mean No-Rae's familly again.

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EDIT: What I really think is happening with FF though is Ssamba is now wondering how to avoid showing them have sex. If she can avoid the kiss for longer then she can avoid the fact that sex is probably one of the things Seol-a would want pretty soon.

I always had the feeling Ssamba was little hesitant of drawing a sex scene. Or maybe it's the fact that the manhwa is not M-Rated and she tries to keep it appropriate for younger ages.
I don't think we will get one to be honest. Probably just kisses and maybe only the beggining of the scene when they start, without actually showing it.

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I'm at a point where I read explicit scenes in other yuri titles with a poker face, but I lose my shit in a almost kissing scene...
I'm so invested, it's not even funny...

I agree. Other mangas just put these type of scenes so easilly that readers become immune to them after a while. Also they don't get time to build the romance and tension properly, so when it happens readers are like meh, seen this before.
The magic of FF is that it's feelings (that needs to time evolve), not primarly lust that fades away sooner or later. This is what some people who complain about the pace don't realise

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No-Rae is acting so chill after the almost kiss it's so funny. She has to play poker or something

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OK I came here before I read the chapter and saw some comments like a kiss, so I thought IT fckng HAPPENED!! And I totally scratched my face of the excitement and.... it actually ALMOST happened?? Why?? Why Almost?? I paid with the marks Ssamba lol.
Nonetheless great update!!

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I think, Sumin's going to where Sungji is. Coz that plush toy she's playing with was supposed to be her another present for Sungji in the early chapters. So yea. That's what I'm thinking.

If Sumin do this , the authors would break the uncertainty Sumin / Seju , Sumin / Sunji , and what looked like another chapter that refers to the next developments, actually maybe hiding something crucial , we'll find out soon ...maybe :/

Yeah I agree about breaking the uncertainty.I think Seju's part is what makes the story more interesting. If it was just Sungi and Sumin the story would be average imo.
Also not sure if that last scene with the bed was Sumin's bed.

There are two options for next chapter I think. Either we get to see Sungji's mom/parents and Sumin missing her, or something will happen between Sumin and Seju now that Sungji is gone. And I don't mean Sumin will sleep with her, just that maybe they will get to talk more than they usually do, which is not much anyway.

If Sumin really ends up with Sungji, which is very likely, I just hope that the authors make her face her past first. It is not possible to be in a healthy relationship or make it work with Sungji long term if she doesn't properly heal first. And we can alrfeady see she's having issues with Sungji because of it.
Now not sure how Seju's character will end up. She is still showing that she's not even willing to let go of Sumin, even if she still seem to respect her relationship with Sungji

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Yaoi is different than yuri in general from what I've noticed. There might more yaoi mangas out there, but the quality is pretty bad imo, so even if there are more it doesn't count to me.
More than half of these stories are basically porn with a hint of story line. Not to mention that the sex scenes feel like rape in a lot of them too.

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There are 40 more chapters to go, so I think there is plenty of time for their relationship to grow. They are already dating anyway. I don't think it was a question whether Sumin could really fall in love with Sungji. She is supposed to be the person who heals her after all.

I personally think the problem is in Sumin's character and the story's focus.
Sumin, despite showing that she cares about Sungji, her character still seems to not have grown much since the beggining. Being more mindful of Sungji and giving her three wishes is not exactly character development imo. She's just trying to treat her gf nicely-something she has done with her past girlfriends too.
On the other hand, she doesn't seem to deal with her past wounds at all. All she still does is going after pretty women and sleeping with them to try and forget.

Maybe now, she is starting to uncover her insecurities with Sungji, but I'm not sure that Gaji do this for character development, or they are trying to prolong the story and the anticipation of when Sumin and Sungji will finally sleep together (should that be the most exciting part of their relationship?).

The naration of the story seems to be relying quite lot on the physical pleasure for the readers, instead of exploring their feelings and situations a little deeper. I mean ok, they are all hot in this story, but after some point it's just not enough. (not that there is something wrong if someone wants to read wdtfs only for this)
And that was my problem with Sungji's character. She seems to be all sweet, lovely and beautiful. But not much beyond that yet.

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I don't think Seju is trying to marry someone. In the previous chapter, Nam mentioned that because she interrupted Seju's marriage interview, Seju was forced to go to more interviews. Seju's family hates her and marrying her to someone would mean getting rid of her for good, so they force her to go to marriage interviews, not because she wants to.

Why can't there be a chapter of Seju's familly and how they force her to meet a marriage partner? Or give a little more information/insight about her feelings towards her familly/life or Sumin/Sungji. Since this is her arc it would make more sense to get these things from her pov.

MacySan
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this couple is better than the main pair

This lol. I only watched VDM for them

MacySan
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^ Also ends not in polyamory and the sequel ends in suicide.

I just realised the title meant 3P as a threesome? Sorry it's just an angsty love triangle.

Wait Shizuru killed herself? I only remember Natsuki chose Nao in the end...

MacySan
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First fanfiction that came to my mind is this
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3770589/1/Takane-no-hana

It's ShiznatNao and pretty angsty

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Wait, was it just Seju's imagination? I thought Nam really did appear out of nowhere...Is she following Seju around?

No Nam actually did appear. Not 100% sure though since I haven't read the translation, but it would be off if Seju just imagined that. It's not llike she's missing Nam or anything like that to randomly think of her

I think the flasbacks are Sumin comparing her relationship with Sungji with hers with Seju. I also think that it's to show that Sumin is not yet over Seju like she appears to be.

And this is why, even though I want to like Sungji/Sumin more than Seju/Sumin I can't xD Does Gaji do that on purpose or something? lol

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I'm starting to think that team Gaji's getting a little confused about the direction of this story.

I was thinking this too. It feels like it's unclear of where they want Sumin and Sungji's relationship to go/end up or how Sungji will help Sumin's healing.
The only anticipation in their relationship for quite a few chapters is when they will finally sleep together. Besides that, I don't see any big difference in Sumin's character. Sungji is supposed to be different than her past lovers, but I really don't the difference compared to her past lovers too. Sumin seemed to care about that red/purple head too when they were dating. It wasn't like she only used her past lovers for sex with no emotions at all.
The only relationship that didn't feel the same was Sumin/Seju so far, in my opinion.

Why the Seju flashbacks though? I'm confused about the meaning of these flashbacks. I mean what is their purpose here. For fanservice for Seju fans? Because if it's not that, I can only think that Sumin is still comparing Sungji with Sumin and is not entirely over her, which is not good for Sungji/Sumin development, at least for now.

AND... Whats up with that scene where Seju imagined Nam on her laps crying? Lol or did she actually appear out of nowhere?

Nammi showed up out of nowhere again. She must have installed a stalker tracker on Seju or something lol. I'm confused though, are we supposed to start shipping Nammi/Seju now because Nammi seems to like Seju and is secretely helping her?

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MacySan
Their Story discussion 02 Feb 12:44
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Not sure but I haven't seen any yaoi manhua from Their Story author. Yaoi-blcd's other project is 19 Days (yaoi) but it's from a different author (Old Xian)