I didn't mean it as cutting Seju off. What I meant, and I precieved that Layla also implied, is that why not cut Seju from Sumin's life now. Not from the story alltogether.

Since teamblonde endgame, why not start Seju's healing too, away from Sumin? Also why keep on adding emotional Seju/Sumin flashbacks? Like the car scene where Seju bought Sumin her first car after Sumin got a Driver's Lisence, was not necessary at all. It doesn't add anything to the plot, it's just there, an emotional flashback of Sumin blushing to Seju. Not relevant to the main plot and present healling right now.

Also, if they plan on Nammi and Seju ending (which I don't like but whatever) they should focus on properly developing them too, instead of nammi just plainly stalking Seju. Seju won't turn straight, since the authors said there isn't going to be an arranged marriage. Also Seju killing herself is too dark and not healling

Those things to me don't add up, but I guess this is the authors' take.

Their is something i don't get ! If the auther is planing for sumin/sungi end game which is till now is 90% it is ., why put so much attention to seju character and her past with flash back of her each chapter ! And sumin comparing her to sungi most of the time ..i mean she just can cut her charactet off like the rest of the many women that sumin been with for past 10 years and simply focus of sungi !?

This. I've been wondering about it too. I guess Seju could be there to extend the story with some drama from her and that weird mole guy.
Because Sumin and Sungji now are strong, so they need something outside their relationship to keep the chapters up.

Also this guy is really bad news, I really hope he doesn't do anything to Sumin again. That would also be a bad move from Gaji to try and make Sumin dislike Seju even more, so she can love Sungji more.

I don't know, I guess everyone learns differently. When I was trying to copy the poses without having the knowledge, it didn't work for me. When I practiced on the proportions, it got better on its own.

A very good book I've recently come across is Mark Crilley's "Mastering Manga" Volumes 1 and 2. The first volume is the introductions about the propotions and the basic stuff, and the 2nd talks about more advanced thinngs, like perspective and poses.
Also he does How to Draw videos on Youtube that are helpfull. I'd say it would be a good starting point.

To me copying poses didn't work in the beggining. When you know nothing about proportions and just start copying, it's like you are trying to learn something without understanding it first. You will remmeber it for one hour, but then you won't be able to put it in work for your own characters.

I would suggest to start learning about the proportions with head measurement. For the face too, use the guidelines in the front view, and when you get familliar, start the different angles, like side view, 3/4 etc. (More advanced is the above view and every other angle)

For the body, just learn the head measurment and where the hips, torso etc fall.
You just have to practice the proportions a lot in the beggining, before attempting to make your own poses.
More advanced is the muscles and curves, that ultimetly give that nice look and realistic.
To me it was difficult to learn the different curves, like the leg and arms. Also a tip, it would be better if you start practicing only on a male or female proportions first. Because if you try to do it both at the same time, you may mix the up and get confused.

After you are keen with it, which does take some time, you can start loooking at other artworks to see how the poses work.
The action poses require perspective and overlapping and are advaced, so if you are a begginer, I wouldn't recommend it at all.

It's funny though, cause I don't see the same problem with yaoi. Like people wanting one of the males to turn straight for a girl. But it happens with yuri often and if they realise it's not gonna happen they drop it.
Just look at Seikon No Qwaser, it's very similar to Valkyrie Drive, but with a male protegonist and mostly straight characters and got a 2nd season, while VD won't.

At the end of the day, it's about money. And money is padering to a certain audience. Yuri audience is relatively small compared to het or yaoi, so I guess maybe this is why they don't even bother to make a lot of decent yuris.

I actually liked Dalkyrie Drive's plot. I'm not a big fan of ecchi, but I don't mind it either. Though the main couple from Valkyrie drive was actually boring, especially Mamori.
But I got one of my favorite ships from it, Lady Lady. Easilly one of my top three OTPs
It was overall an ok show and I think it got bad critics mostly because of the ecchi stuff. Just like Seikon No Qwaser. I'm glad it didn't turn into a het harem somehow, so that's a plus.

I feel the same for Citrus. Feels like even the author is tired of it to be honest.

Also Hibike Euphonium announced a second season for 2016. It was official, not sure why there hasn't been any news from it again. Maybe it will be for the summer or fall.
It can be frustrating how some boring harem shows get second season, whlle yuri almosyt never does

Alright, before everyone collectively flips their lid... what's the exact text of the comment, and did they have a source for where ssamba said this? Because "anonymous commenter said ssamba said blah blah" is pretty sketchy in my book. (not to mention there might be lost-in-translation issues, unless your native language is Korean?)

Nah, I just think it was a reader like us here, making a prediction. On another note, although I want to see them as a couple too, no need to panic over it .
Like seriously it's not like someone's life depends on it xD

Also, I doubt it'll end with just flirting, if anything it'll end when they become a couple, but if it's extended to 150 I bet we'll see them as a couple too.

With FF I can't believe it until I see it. Until then I seriously think it is possible to end with them just declaring they are going to date in the future

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One of the comments on comico said that the author said they may keep the story all fluttery and end it like that with no other progression
What do you guys think about that? D;

Sounds quite possible to be honest

MacySan

I find it nice though, how Seol-A admits that she's actually trying to seduce No-Rae xD

Not sure if I'd want to see this in canon since it might be a little OOC, but I'm just imagining a montage of Seol-a trying a million different classic/tropetastic seduction techniques on No-rae and every single one of them failing miserably (and hilariously)

To be honest it wouldn't feel OOC to me actually. I mean she looked pretty flirty when she was putting her make up before going to confess in front of the mirror. Also she had flirted with No-Rae before, like some early chapters where she showed her legs on No-Rae and asked her if she was looking at them lol (the scene where they were going to an art exhibition on the bus)
But yeah, No-Rae would definitely (pretend to) be oblivious to it again.
I just wish a guy hints on Seol-A in the next chapter so No-Rae get a little jealous lol. We need to see No-Rae getting frustrated too

I find it nice though, how Seol-A admits that she's actually trying to seduce No-Rae xD

Thanks for translation!!
Wow this is definitely a feels chapter. Makes a difference when you know what they're saying.

Let's see. What if some dude hint on Seol-A in next chapter and she's all "Not interested, already have someone I like" in front of No-Rae

But isn't this the charm on this story? Two grown women who already had the D and now want the V?

lol ok, sorry for the phrasing but come on guys, come on... the fact that we still have discussion about this is kind of...

But anyway, there are so many gl stories out there portraying this supposed "pure love" that I think it's normal some readers feel uncomfortable seeing that the MCs already have sex experience.

But I think it's already time to accept that sometimes people have sex with more than just one person in their life time guys.. I mean it's 201 5 6, it's time.... -> sex experience xD

Everyone already knows that though. No need to keep on mentioning it every time a guy appears

Oh wait. There is an English "Get Out" in that past scene with the guy. Maybe he was a relationship from Australia...

Omg you guys are right, i didnt notice those clothes. I think she's thinking about how she got on so quick with guys before and always ended up badly lol

Maybe she also thinks how it's way easier getting with a guy than a girl lol

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Who is the redhead? Is she Seol-A's friend from the ballet? But she looks new...
Anyway, chapters seems interesting. Seems like Seol-A is watching the couples around her and imagines that she does the same to No-Rae, aka daydreaming about No-Rae lol.
Let's see if No-Rae gets drunk in next chapter..
Also, that guy with Seol-A? Was he a past boyfriend? Or does Seol-A think of starting dating guys again

Gaydar doesn't matter. Everyone knows the majority of women in WDTFS are hot and gay. Just like the real life...reversed lol

I read somewhere that this is the mole guy. The person that Seju has to pick up. Judging by Seju's face and her luck in wdtfs, it is probably a man

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Yuru Yuri is a fun anime to watch, but I wouldn't consider it the best yuri anime. Also a lot of non-yuri anime that have given the best yuri ships were not there at all, although I understand why.
Going solely by this, am I supposed to think Sakura Trick or Yuru Yuri couples are better from, let's say Shiznat?

I'm such a Seju bias that I find Seju wearing white and looking so sad hotter than Sumin and Sungji naked and doing the deed.

Completely agree with this. I'm Seju bias as well. I also felt like this wasn't as passionate as the sessions Sumin had with Seju which could also be a result of my bias.

I'm Seju bias too, but Sumin said she loves Sungji here. I don't know, the way I see it now, is that Seju is becoming a second character, and maybe she is there for some drama and prolonging the story. Because they can't draw Sumin and Sungji doing it for the rest of 37 chapters

The part where Sumin cries she said :
Sunji: what's wrong? (Why are you crying )
Sumin: Because I'm happy.

And in tbe box it says: [Because I'm sad that I'm scared of these feelings]

Lol makes total sense (not). Maybe she's sad that she wasn't able to be this happy before?

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On the other hand, things are really so simple? Sumin with Sunji, Seju with Nami? Seju married? I don't know.
I hope that the story becomes interesting now. The end of the first arc was so good. The chapter was exciting. Instead for a while, I feel a little bored, at last, despite the sex scene. I wait for the translation with patient.

My thoughts exactly lol. The ending is so obvious by now, that this is why I think it may not 100% end like this. But then again, when things get a certain turn they keep on going like that until the end. Plus, the Korean fandom seems to go crazy with the latest Sumin/Sungji chapters, so I don't think the authors would like to endanger that.
Sometimes I get a fifty shades vibe from wdtf, but as a lesbian version.
I kinda find it unfair how Seju's character seems to be getting so much bs, while the rest of them are healling and moving on.

They were on the verge of something when No-Rae leaned toward Seol-a, but it's been erased in the following chapter to talk about graduation plans.

We got plenty of character development, I'll give you that. That's why I still like, somehow, FF, because the characters have been given depth. But the author didn't give them the opportunity to change, didn't allow them to flip that switch, to take the leap, to shift their relationship toward something more. None is giving them a push. Not even the supporting characters, like Enah or Oppa. Just vague advice and wisdom.

They always seem stuck on the verge of something, but author just throws random roadblocks to prevent them to start their love story. We know the characters well by now, but I didn't get the impression they changed from how they were in the beginning. We got the stories of what made them the way they are today (accidents, ex-boyfriends, betrayals, etc...) but now, what?

Even though I love FF, I gotta admit this is right here. It does feel like something's going to happen, but then everything goes back at normal.

On the other hand, I believe they have changed through the beggining a lot. No-Rae used to be more childish and carefree (even if she was pretending it, she was still in fact a little like this), while Seol-A was more distant and unreachable. They are on the same level now imo, and they have both matured in this period of time.
Ssamba has done a good job on this.

The way I see FF, is more like their daily life of two characters who are in love but not in a relationship, rather than the life of a couple-to-be.
It is unique, because I've never seen a romantic story about two people that focuses a lot on the secondary things and people in their life instead of romance. But this is ok too, because it shows that there are other important things in life too besides dating.
I don't see that Enah, or the other guy Oppa (forgot his name) were actually there to push them together. They were there, because these situations happen in life, they don't necessarily have to have an impact in this way.
FF to me first is slice of life and then romance.
Also the socondary characters are interesting, so I wouldn't consider them useless.
Would it be nice to see them dating? Yes, I think everyone agrees on that. And I totally understand why some people may be frustrated.

I just agree though, because going as far as almost kissing is not something that can be ignored this easily.
But, it's been just one chapter after this, so maybe there will be something regarding it in next chapters. I don't think we can draw the full conclusion about it yet.

I think it's a little similar to the situation with kdrama fandom where there's hardly any fic. Western TV is generally plot-driven and so a lot of fanfic comes out of the need to explore/fill in characters and relationships in more depth that what's given in canon. Meanwhile, for kdramas which are generally more relationship-driven, that characterization is already there in canon, so 1) there's less of a drive to write in the first place, and 2) fic writers end up having a lot less wiggle room before running into OOC territory so it's actually harder to write good fic.

Of course, I'm not really involved in kdrama fandom, and I'm not a fic writer (though I've made some embarrassing attempts in the past) so perhaps none of the above is actually true haha.

Finally someone said it! I've always wondered why there aren't any fanfics of FF floating around...although there are a few good fanarts.

I think a very important reason for no FanFics is what cipp said. Because their feelings and emotions/motives are very well developed, so there is no room to write much about it without going OOC, or making up a whole different genre/parallel universe with them. So the story itself is kinda limitating the room for fanfictions.

Only thing I could think rn would be maybe some extra stories of their daily life that is heavilly based on the original chapters, or Seol-A and No-Rae in the future when they start dating. But honestly, I think Ssamba would make a better job at it.
In some Anime/Manga the artists left plotholes and this is when a lot of fanfictions get inspired by.

Also fandoms are not used to making fanfictions about manhwas or manhuas in general. They usually do when they see an anime.
The only manga I've seen (at least from yuri) getting some fanfictions without releasing an anime is Citrus so far.

What if No-Rae's sister is the first person to whom No-Rae admits she and Seol-A are dating (because by summer they HAVE to be dating, who am I kidding they won't lol) and No-Rae's sister casually says "Meh, I came here with my girlfriend from USA too"

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Yeah, I really want to see No-rae act as well. But if it keeps progressing like how it's been, I have a feeling Seol-a will be the one who does all the work.

And that's never good. I want No Rae to initiate and not be so reactionary.

Me too. It would be very different if it was actually No-Rae doing it instead of Seol-A

Yes, it's Hee-jin. I made a mistake. Norae says in the end to her brother that she wants to see her sister, and her brother says that she'll be visiting over the summer.

Over the summer? Pretty long from now...seems like she'll be the "final boss" of FF then lol

Something about Norae not graduating on time...
Norae and Seola don't say much to each other at the end, but the hand-holding is still sweet.

I have so many questions:

Who was the really, really tall chica chatting with Seol-a?!

Norae's older sister.

Okay. So I was kinda upset after you spoiled my previous guess with reality (that No-rae was just acting childishly depressed over her delayed graduation), but this makes way more sense for me, ha-ha. She's drawn differently. Hee-jin's hair is drawn black and plain, and, yeah, the height thing.

So looking forward to @halmoni making my day over again. (^__^ )

Guys...!! No-Rae's sister has brown hair like No-Rae xD