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Some people seem unhappy with the ending. I think it's fine. Mel and master kissed, then rode off into the sunset. What happens after that, should probably be left to our imagination.

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I'm still not sure how I feel about this pairing. It's cute and deeply wrong at the same time

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Even the barbaric practice, of child brides can become cute and innocent if you make the couple both girls, and slap animal ears on them. Oh yuri is there nothing you can't do.

Are you talking about the main character? Because she's not a child bride, the main character is 16 which is the age of consent in parts of Japan (it's actually 13 but most areas have laws bringing it up to 16-18).

It's an arranged marriage.

From what I understand parents marrying their young daughters to dirty old men, is a problem even right here in the good ol' usa.

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Even the barbaric practice, of child brides can become cute and innocent if you make the couple both girls, and slap animal ears on them. Oh yuri is there nothing you can't do.

last edited at Nov 27, 2018 4:34PM

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Marie and Mel, and Stella and master are much better pairings. I'm not a big fan of stories, where the girl passes up the love by her side, to chase new forbidden love. I always feel sorry for the one, the girl left behind, even when, the author turns them into a betrayer so you won't.

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Meh. Not a huge fan of the whole over the top, in your face, yuri at full volume thing. Still I'm not saying pass, on it.

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Yet another dumb whining about "double standards." Have any of you children realized that that feeling doesn't materialize in a vacuum? The reason people trust women more with minors is because it's a fact that men sexually assault children WAY MORE. 95% of all sexual predators are men. The existence of female rapists and female pedophiles do not erase that fact. That's why human logically form deeper mistrust and hatred towards males in this matter.

Every parent I have talked to, be it the mom or dad, be it the child is a daughter or a son, always want their babysitter to be females. No exception. That's called survival instinct based on real life fact, not double standard.

And even when a child is sexually taken advantage of by a woman, guess what? It usually leaves less physical damage and emotional damage to the child, that's why people typically don't get as angry as when a male does it. Go to youtube and search for the documentary report on men raping almost every male chidren on the street in Afganistan, or western tourists sex tourism in Cambodia. Listen to the sustain body damage to the children due to penetration. Now search for health report on victims of female pedophiles (spoiler: they're almost 100% healthy body-wise). There had never been a female lolicon who killed her victims, but it's pretty common with male lolicon. Look up all the gritty cases where a Belgium pedophile kidnapped and burried alive 2 little girls and left 2 others starve to death after raping them all, or the Japanese pedophile who kidnapped an elementary school girl and left her corpse naked in a sewage after raping her, or the father in Poland who locked up his daughter and raped her to death.

TL;DR: appropriate response based on fact is not double standards. People don't react aggressively towards female lolicons because they're far smaller in number and much less vile than male perpetrators. "If Touko had been a guy"? If Touko had been a guy, he would have raped Akari and threaten her to keep silent instead of being this cute and sweet - and that realistic knowledge is exactly why people are extremely allergic towards an adult male.

We get it already. Men are evil in carnate, while women are all pure and innocent as the driven snow.

johnb
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I've never seen BanG Dream!, so I know nothing about it. Blondy seemed impossibly naive, though. How on earth does a girl her age not know nipples get erect. I mean hasn't she ever been cold before.

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Momosa, The next time someone asks you if a relationship, based solely on getting groped against their will, is a bad one SAY YES!

johnb
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I see, little sis is about to take up the family tradition of delinquent taming

Minami seemed to be past needing to be tamed when Iori met her. I got the feeling she already wanted out, she just needed someone to give her a place to go, both physically, and emotionally.

johnb
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Iori's little sister with, Minami's psycho ex. (sjgh) Sure why not, I mean there is only so many people, in the world, so they were bound to meet sometime.

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johnb
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A good delinquent? You keep using that word. I don't think that word means, what you think it means.

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I dunno about horrible sexual predator but she isn't much of a catch either. Akari could do better.

Touko-san is pretty much the kind of person, I imagine, sparked the me too movement. Pushing ahead without making sure, her partner really wants her advance, and not just too scared to speak up, and say stop. It's just a matter of luck, that Akari is into it.
I've been wondering, how many times a guy has bulldozed his way through a sexual encounter, without making sure he had consent. The guy walks away thinking they both had a jolly good romp in the hay. meanwhile the woman is left traumatized.

johnb
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After rereading the early chapters, I have to disagree with Rahvindra's theory. Iori has always been a little violent with Minami. So I'm sticking with my original theory.
I was also reminded, that Iori was messing around with married men. So, it was partly her fault for having bad relationships. I think it is much more likely Iori was unconsciously choosing relationships, that would fail, because she is gay, and unable to fall in love with a man.

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johnb
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What's with all that hitting between girls? Is that some kind of stupid trend? That kinda ruins the mood. Why would you ever want to hit your girl? The one you love above all things! Damn that's insane (

The art style of in this manga makes it more intense, but hitting your love interest cliche has been used in many romance genres and portrayed as comedic, this one isn't able to do so because of lack of frames.

The beginning chapters of the manga did have an angst feeling to the abuse because of the parents, and certainly was violent when the friend and sister (thinking her to be a man) punched her.

But that last page had way more unexpressed emotions in that hit than violence. Because for Iori, after having constant toxic relationships and becoming numb to breakups, finally found someone who simply wanted to stay by her side, thats all she wanted and she is filled with happiness. She's even ready to beat up someone with a bat to get her girl back. Even after all this Minami thoughtless says something like "Are you really okay with going out with me?". (There are times when thoughtless words uttered by loved ones become way more painful than being stabbed by a blunt knife). In that moment Iori reacts the only way she could, she reacts impulsively and slaps her. You can't have someone like Iori remain calm and collected when they hear something like that from the very person she loves! There is no way she could have responded to that situation with a "I love you" or kiss her to reassure Minami.

Everyone is recognizing Minami's tragic past but are completely overlooking Iori's toxic experiences with relationships!!

Maybe. It's an intriguing possibly. If that is the case, it's deeper than what I was giving this series credit for. Honestly it's deeper than what I give most series credit for. I'll have to reread the earlier chapters to see, if I agree.

johnb
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It really feels inappropriate to make jokes about smacking each other, when the first half of the manga was about abusive relationships.

^Also this.

Maybe it's all some intricate meta-commentary about how fictional romance tends to blur the line between abusive, stalker-ish, and otherwise unhealthy behavior and supposed "romantic" gestures by throwing them directly into contact with each other. ^^

That seems a bit too deep for this manga. It's more likely that the feminine character expressing their feelings toward the masculine character through violence, is such an accepted trope, that the author put it in without thought.

A man beating up his woman, is a bleak portrayal of domestic abuse. A woman beating up her man, is comedy gold.

last edited at Nov 17, 2018 5:04PM

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I think we all can agree, that in real life Touko-san would be a horrible sexual predator. However, it's a yuri manga, so I think it's okay to relax and enjoy.

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Oh, I found it cute too.

But I couldn't help thinking that the OL was a bit predatory toward a teen.

Agreed.

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What kind of predator is that?

Imagine if it was an older male...

But by the yuri magic, it all becomes cute.

I think it's safe to say, that most yuri fans have a double standard when it comes to yuri, vs. het relationships. I, myself find all het romantic tropes annoying. I much rather see all of the tropes turned to the power of yuri.
You are right though. In the age, of the me too movement, we shouldn't be sending the message, that it's okay for anybody to take without express permission. However, I can't help but, to find it cute. (As long as it's in relatively harmless, manga form.)

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I don't think there is a more annoying phrase in yuri than, "It doesn't count if it's between girls." It's like the author is teasing you. "Hahaha, you thought that kiss meant something was going to happen, didn't you." It's also a cheap trick to build anticipation for the next installment of the story. Then deliver nothing.
A close second on the annoying chart, is when the protaganist's group, of friends, loses interest when, they find out she is talking about a girl. "So, that sempi in your club is a girl? How boring." Honestly I don't know why that one bothers me, it just does.

johnb
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It really feels inappropriate to make jokes about smacking each other, when the first half of the manga was about abusive relationships.

johnb
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I never got what's the big deal about the "indirect kiss". I guess it's suppose to be cute and innocent, but it just seems sad to me.

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Plutonic love simply means love without sex.

Plutonic love is when she loves you even though you're no longer a planet.

No,you got it wrong, It's a love of cartoon dogs.

What are you saying about love for THE LORD OF THE UNDERWORLD, mortal?

I'm more of a Venus lover myself.

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Plutonic love simply means love without sex.

Plutonic love is when she loves you even though you're no longer a planet.

No,you got it wrong, It's a love of cartoon dogs.

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I'm seriously confused. My basic concept seems simple enough. Romantic love is love with sexual desire. plutonic love is love without. In my mind it's as clear cut as, wet means there is water on it, while dry means it doesn't. Love is just love. It come in many forms. Too many to have a name for every single form. So breaking it down into two catch all categories, seems to make sence.
I guess it's hard to describe, those feelings of love, that live in the margins. Those deep, close, feelings, that have all the hallmarks of romantic love, minus the sexual desire. However I don't see labelling those feelings as plutonic as diminishing them, or soiling them, in anyway. Plutonic is just a way of saying it's not sexual.
Maybe we have been conditioned to think of plutonic love as open and altruistic. A parents' love, a love for a friend. It's not that simple. Parent have favorites. Friends get jealous. Children have sibling rivalry. It's all different aspects of love.
To be honest, I'm still kind of trying to wrap my mind around the concept of an exclusive asexual relationship. I understand how a relationship could evolve into one. How a relationship starts as asexual is a little fuzzy to me, however. The idea of a biromantic lesbian is absolutely giving me fits. (I'm not judging. I just don't know what that means. DY4Y gave me a technical definition, thanks by the way, but that didn't really help.)

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