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What on earth is wrong with these girls at the mixer? "Oh, hey, it's a woman with huge breasts who's dressed like Agent Scully. CLEARLY that means it's a man!"

I'm with you on that one. Kase-san was wearing a skirt for pete's sake. It's like saying these girls are so desperate for a guy they'll throw themselves at anyone who's remotely masculine.

This manga treats 'innocence' really, really weirdly. It's seems, like, literally unthinkable for the author that Yamada's friend just assumed Yamada had picked up a girl to go home with. It's somehow more plausible that she'd perceive an obvious girl as a boy.

As for Hanna-chan mistaking Kase-san as a guy, that one was at least plausible. Hanna-chan couldn't see very well do to the non-prescription contacts. I mean, I'm pretty sure that Hanna-chan met Kase-san before, and Hanna-chan didn't recognise her.

I think the very weird innocence themes (which have been an issue from the beginning: Yamada acts like she doesn't know what sex is even after they've had sex) is part of why people are squicked out by this chapter.

I think a lot of manga get weirdly hung up with innocent female characters. So I'm willing to that a pass.

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After reading the discussion, and rereading the last couple chapters, I'm fairly sure it's simply a communication issue. I understand why Kase-san wouldn't want her shy and naive girlfriend going to a mixer, where there would probably be predatory boys that could easily take advantage of her. I'm still not a fan of forbidding Yamada-san to go.
I also understand Yamada-san's unease about how little she knows about, what goes on in Kase-san's life. I would be pissed too, if my girlfriend told me she was leaving for a week, the night before she left. It make feel like I was an afterthought.
I don't think Kase-san was intentionally being a hypocrite, demanding to know what goes on in Yamada-san's life, while purposely hiding what she is doing. I just think Kase-san didn't feel meeting up with her team, at a club, after practice, was newsworthy. Still I could see how finding out, that your girlfriend had aspects of her life, you didn't know about, would be a shock, especially to a person like Yamada-san, who's been an open book, for Kase-san.
Both girls were too stubborn and scared to get in touch after the fight. Good thing Kase-san braved rejection, to rescue Yamada-san from that shady date rape mixer.

Edit: The conversation between Kase-san and her roommate shows us that Kase-san is both a bit airheaded, and absent minded. It's good bet Kase-san just forgets to tell Yamada-san a lot of stuff. Like she is going out of town for a week, and will be incommunicado for a while.

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I can't tell if Kase-san is dangerously possessive, or just a bit overprotective. At first I thought Kase-san forbidding Yamada-san from going to the mixer, was definitely boardering on psycho clingly territory. However, once I really thought it over, I realised that I wouldn't be comfortable with my girlfriend going to a party, set up specifically for hooking guys and girls up together. Although, I would NEVER forbid my girlfriend from going. That seems a bit to "I'm in charge"-ish for my liking.
Add in that Kase-san seemed to understand that, on some level, Yamada-san didn't really want go, maybe Kase-san had the right idea. I still don't like Kase-san forbidding Yamada-san from going though.

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I suppose this shows that the pair aren't nessessrily hopelessly stuck in the friends, with kissing benefits zone. So, I guess that makes the ending... better? (shrug)

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Was her mom not the only adult in her family at that time?

Page 24: "Minori's dad will probably be mad at me..."

They'd probably have moved into foster care if there were no adults left in the family, right? No way an elementary schooler would be left to look after two younger siblings on her own. Maybe the dad gets home from work too late to cook for the younger kids?

Probably. If there is one thing those Japanese are known for, not including all the weird stuff, is that they have work lives that can regularly work them to death. The dad's hours could very well be insane, and he would have to get a different job if he had to be back in time to make his children supper.

I don't care how much the dad works It's both unfair and unwise to put an elementary schooler in charge of making dinner for the family, especially one with no experience cooking.

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Are the Japanese so sexist, that they would make a child cook, just because she is the only "woman" in the house. Man, That's just disgusting. She just lost her mom, and now you're going to force her to learn to cook. Slap that jerk of a father, and tell him get his bitch ass in that kitchen, and cook for his family. I bet she will get stuck doing all the household chores too.

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Why are people dissatisfied? The manga is about a straight girl and her character development is that she's not that straight anymore. Anything beyond couldn't be put into a series that tells you it's about a straight girl in the title.

I am hoping for a follow up with a more explicit title though.

seriously, you can't see how anyone would be unsatisfied with, "We're more than friends, but we're not really lovers. And I'm happy with that."
Your hope for a follow up series tells me you aren't really happy with this ending either.

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(sigh) I know I'm probably catch hell for this, but that ending sucks. I can't imagine being happy with that kind of relationship. That seems like a recipe for constant frustration and heart ache. I can see this ending one of two ways. Either the "straight" girl is going to overcome her inhabitations about dating another girl, and the pair will become a proper couple. Or the straight girl will find a boyfriend and leave the lesbian alone and heart broken.

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I still can't tell how serious Kasumi, and Sakurako are, with their love play.

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Looks like this is the home stretch.

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I actually hate this series. The main character really has no redeeming qualities. The humor is from the worst part of a bygone era. And the series somehow manages to be sexist, even though 99% of the characters are women. Honestly I don't know why I read the damned thing. I guess I just keep waiting for Yurika to show some morals. Hell I will settle for Yuirka just giving up on the whole "I'm straight" shit. The whole straight girl forced into the life of a lesbian gigolo was never funny. I thought the series would get past it quick, but 24 chapters in, and here we are.

What's equally as bad is that most of the women she seduces aren't even lesbians but just women that fall for her because of her power to attract women. That means most of the yuri in this is just meant to be a joke and nothing more. Only a handful of characters can actually be considered gay.

Agreed.

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I actually hate this series. The main character really has no redeeming qualities. The humor is from the worst part of a bygone era. And the series somehow manages to be sexist, even though 99% of the characters are women. Honestly I don't know why I read the damned thing. I guess I just keep waiting for Yurika to show some morals. Hell I will settle for Yuirka just giving up on the whole "I'm straight" shit. The whole straight girl forced into the life of a lesbian gigolo was never funny. I thought the series would get past it quick, but 24 chapters in, and here we are.

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I got to say, chapter 24 was just terrible.

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I still don't understand the japanese obsession with girls' panties. Sure they can be cute, but when I was young enough to be chasing girls, I was more interested in what was underneath their panties, than the panties themselves.

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I find it a little ironic that the blond girl looked more like a boy than the "boy" she was out to meet.

I really hope I get to read this story all the way through. It looks fun.

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Kasumi and Sakurako's relationship is like a smoldering pile of wood, on the verge of fire, just not quite hot enough to ignite.

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It's infuriating when stupid assholes blame the victim.

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Who are they fighting, the russians, the americans, or is it a totally fictitious war all together?

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Your right, consent keeps getting redefined. As we learn to become more sensitive to the victims of these crimes, we refine our definition of consent to better protect them.
For heaven's sake! The girl was so young and naive, that she didn't even understand, what was being done to her, was sex! If that isn't too immature to give consent, then the concept, of consent, is meaningless!

To be fair, our understanding of murder and due process is pretty good too, yet few people criticize Murcielago and so on for doing away with that. Why is it that we have a tougher time with fictional sex crimes (or at least ethical dubiosity) than with fictional crimes of violence?

I'm fine with arguments like, "It's just a story, so relax.", or "If you don't like it, don't read it.". What disturbs me, is there seems to be people, who are arguing that the older woman did nothing wrong, when she is clearly a pedophile. Again the girl was too young and naive, to understand what was being done to her! If the age of concent laws are not set up to protect victims like that, then what the hell are they for?!
I might read books, or watch movies, where the protagonist, goes on a revenge fueled murder spree, hell, I'll even cheer the person on, as they mow down the vile scum, by the truck load. However, when I put down the book, or walk out of the theater, I know what the protagonist did was wrong. So, whether we liked this story, or not, we should all be able to agree, that the older woman is most assuredly a sex offender.

Edit; For the record I wasn't cheering the older woman on. rereading the comments, I agree with White Rose's point, we are ment to sympathise with girl. Still I wish, the author had made the girl sophisticated enough to give consent.

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AW, the ending was so cute!! Even though I was hoping that this series would’ve been longer, I enjoyed it and am satisfied with the ending

Lol some of these comments are amusing. Ima just sprinkle some of my controversial opinions: Me, myself and I personally believe that there is no predator nor victim here. I’m sure all of you are strictly law abiding citizens who would never think about committing crimes, even the most petty ones. But if you can manage to look past rigid (and arbitrary) laws, I think their relationship was consensual. The younger girl wasn’t raped nor coerced. Sure, she was seduced, but she also consented to everything that happened afterwards without any form of resistance. Since she has fully functioning mental faculties as well as reproductive capabilities, I believe her consent is valid :)

Yanno I've noticed a trend with your comments. >.> Please tell me you're not actually a pedophile who has a dodgy understanding of consent.

"Consent" is constantly getting redefined, what it means today is quite a bit different to what it meant 50 years ago and entirely unrecognizable to what it meant through most of human history. Yes consent is important, but I think it's important to not forget how rapidly things have changed and how poorly defined such things are. Thinking consent is a fixed and well defined and understandable thing I think is a sign of not having much life experience. What the term means differs vastly between cultures even in modern day world. It even differs between western countries, though to a lesser extent. Your own parents and grandparents probably define consent differently than you as well.

Your right, consent keeps getting redefined. As we learn to become more sensitive to the victims of these crimes, we refine our definition of consent to better protect them.
For heaven's sake! The girl was so young and naive, that she didn't even understand, what was being done to her, was sex! If that isn't too immature to give consent, then the concept, of consent, is meaningless!

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That was a meaningless BS ending. A total waist of time to read.

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Remember girls, it's important to learn how to cook, so you can make delicious meals for your man. (Or your tomboy girlfriend, if you swing that way.)

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I could have sworn this chapter, was not here when I checked on the 10th nor yesterday. How could I have missed it?

johnb
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Maybe someone has covered this already. If it is a video store, then why is there a bunch of music genres on the sign?

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Still Sick discussion 10 Dec 04:54
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This story is acceptable. I demand you bring me more of these chapters! (clap clap)