Foxy Lady

I haven't read anything that they "discussed" personal matters in the office especially during office hours.

oh, they do!

ch3 (scheduled their date night), ch33, ch74 (Flashback and recent time.. both are offices)

and those are all their meetings in the office, in exception to ch62.

Unpredictable mature story with interesting plot, character depth and hot realistic sex is what make wdtfs is the best yuri / gl manhwa or even manga right now.

Look at how far the discussion can be regarding this manhwa.

it is very unique, can't believe that this is Team Gaji's first serialisation

hahaha... okay... in our country, we call lawyers - Attorney/Atty.

I'm shocked !! I wasted 90 min checking chapters hehehehehhe dammit

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Foxy Lady

but wait a second! how did you know Ms. Choi's first name ?? O_o

chap. 4(the difference between Atty. Sangmi and Sungji.... Sungji doesn't give up)

Sangmi is the lawyer. Ms. Choi is the manager.

yeah I know that, the Atty name is new to me, I almost know the panels by heart, can't recall this name at all

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Since, I've said Sumin was not supposed to be there. She was expecting Sumin at her house not in the office. Please refer to chap. 54 phone conversation.

this would have been possible if Seju didn't already prepare the office, drinks and all. I read the phone call, original translation.. I couldn't get where she implied going to Seju's house.

Seju built the company for Sumin. If my trajectory is right, she was leaving the company. Away from Sumin to protect her.

this I could agree with you at.

Saehyun's reason is the place is safe. I think that is one asset of Seju unknown to her adversaries.

yeah, but the person who was able to follow her to the hotel room, will follow her to Sumin's.. he said in the original translation: I'm saying that this girl needs you.
he might have already known that Seju might suffer from PTSD and can't be left alone.. and body guards won't suffice.

Some may have shady business.

ah, very possible ! <- I like this idea!

I think it was a contract of the loan she gave the oldest brother.

Saehyun was the one preparing the folder but didn't know about the loan until he and Seju left the meeting. <- they left the envelope in there

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Foxy lady ah sorry for annoying you much, but I really tried to think of Seju's plan of getting Sumin off her back.. I mean I paid more attention to her dialogue in ch54.. she yells at Sumin: "THEN JUST COMEBACK TO ME!".. and her dialogue went in this direction. Her words were honest and she was hurt by the idea of Sumin getting away from her. next day at the elevator, she told Sumin that she throw the resignation letter > she didn't want Sumin to resign really.

ch65, obviously Seju wanted to start over < do you think that if Sumin agreed, they would have preceded with the father's plan immediately ?

but later,
If getting Sumin off her back to protect her is the plan, then it is even riskier that Seju stayed with her after the assault.
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Seju could never have predicted that Sumin and Sungji will comeback together after ch55, let alone ch66

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btw, what did the assassin mean when she said: "your brothers told me to tell you to stop interfering"

interfering in what exactly ?, Seju met them in ch71, but the assassin was already following her from ch66

• exclude what Seju said in ch71 as the trigger for the attack. (could it be a payback for declining the father's plan <- but then it means that Saehyun is the one who sent the assassin -> I have my reasons to dislike this idea)
• But! it's middle aged men <- Saehyun is 40 years old, right? and much younger then his other brothers. <- I also exclude Seju's step mother. http://imgur.com/a/XRgoi

speaking of which, in ch71 Seju holds an envelope from Saehyun, this envelope got a nice zoom-in in a couple of panels, and it's not about the brothers' failed investment <- Seju talks about their failure even before opening the envelope.

What's going on XDDD

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Not sure, but I thought his quote about conspiracy is funny XD

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seriously, I don't recall at all reading "Atty's" name anywhere!! what else did I miss!!!

"high level conspiracy" Ken

Foxy Lady

but wait a second! how did you know Ms. Choi's first name ?? O_o

chap. 4(the difference between Atty. Sangmi and Sungji.... Sungji doesn't give up)

Foxy lady

your high respect to Team Gaji's work is one of the reasons I highly appreciate your analysis for, it means that you take their hard work seriously and appreciate every detail.

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back to the story, you were talking about the rings, please check this link:
http://imgur.com/a/pwOed

Please look at the hand of Seju making a "sshhh". There are no rings. Look at chap. 55, there are rings.

the rings were there from the beginning.. and from the beginning this scene was planned in ch27. (only the sssh part you don't see them)

(it's okay they made a similar mistake in ch42, Gaji totally forgot Sumin's tattoo on one of the panels)
http://imgur.com/a/FUDDg
and the chairman's mustash <- he has one in ch44 but not in ch49 (he shaved it? I don't know XD)

Secondly: the getting caught part never changed from the beginning, so "returning the ring with no fight" is a bit extreme.

so the change might have happened in other areas than the one you are talking about.. because I could see some chopped off bubbles.

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I am sorry to make you be redundant on this point, could you elaborate more on your POV on that?

Putting it on hold just signifies that Sungji was getting results. The main point in here is that Sumin can love somebody more than she loves Seju.The greater she suffers, the greater the love she gave. To the point, she will not blame Seju anymore and maybe finally forgive her.

Foxy lady

I want to bring this here: S2 review

from TG review, I get that Seju wanted Sungji to end things off waaaay before it reached the point in season 2 finale. This contradicts with the idea that Seju wanted Sungji to be with Sumin because she doesn't give up (TG said that Seju assumed Sungji would)
again what Seju did by throwing the ring to Sungji assuming still that Sungji would break things off also tells me that Seju did want to end this plan way back.

in ch60, as Sumin asks Seju to pursue with her resignation, Seju smirked, which could mean that she knew that things ended between Sumin and Sungji (as Sumin wanted to hold the resignation off only so she could see Sungji)

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Seju did want to end things from ch27.. why do you think she is still considering it a plan rather than things going out of her control ?

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In my mind though, everyone is the fox when it comes to the other,

Sumin is the fox when it comes to Sungji (1st arc is a good example)
Seju is the fox when it comes to Sumin
Sungji is the fox NOW when it comes to both, Sumin and Seju current situation.
Nammi -> fulltime fox XD

One of those is a collage where Seju says:
So much I want to say...
.... so much I need to tell you ...
...... But so much I never can ....

Seju is the fox. The fox can't say, that's why there is still no answer to "What does the fox say?" :'D

this is exactly what Foxy Lady thinks btw.. I found your comment so funny XD

yoonie

So those words were fan-made or really from the author? I've never read these before >.<. This is the first.

I'm not sure about this, whether it was Fan made or official.

Nora, can you tell me other things from the podcast? I want to know

The translation consisted of few points that were published here, page 218 by MacySan

1- this manhwa will end in June
2- Seju won't die
3- first-falling in love story of Sumin*Seju will be told
4- DawoonX Sangmi (the lawyer)

I am just like you, can't confirm these points.. specially that later some ppl started adding more.

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How sad! I can no longer hit on Nora. Can't help then, I have to switch to using my "level pro encrypted pick up line" comments from now on. :'D

I need to learn this skill * _ * !!

something about that she skips boobs XDDD

I don't recall this scene.

Ch70.. just skipped the boobs fast.. "At least for Amy's tatse XD"

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Foxy Lady

Here is the thing about Dawoon, someone who translated the Radio pod cast of TG said that Dawoon will end up dating Sangmi (how random) .. this excludes the possibilty of Sungji×Dawoon in the near future.

I've seen Sungji's face while drinking with Dawoon and later how confused she was till the very end..there was something, that Sungji wasn't able to understand then. I can't guess what Sungji wanted to tell Dawoon in ch 64 in the car. BUT it was shocking that Sungji said that she felt no difference by breaking up with Sumin.

Sungji put the ring on the table and picked up the call with Dawoon when she felt so comfortable, till this moment, Sungji is confused and I think Seju's question for her during ch79 lunch already triggered something in Sungji <- but will Sungji now relate what Seju said about Sumin to how she felt with Dawoon?

Ah.. the possibility of Sungjix Dawoon still hard if the pod-cast translation was correct.

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So much I want to say...
.... so much I need to tell you ...
...... But so much I never can ....

Hehehe I thought this one was fan-made.. and much related to the fact that Seju never was able to say that she loves Sumin.. or that she was hurt.

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I have my own reasoning on why Seju made that plan (Sungji ×Sumin)

1. protect Sumin from the Baeks
   But: The assasin saw Sumin with Sungji, which then hinted that Sumin and Seju are no longer dating ch74
   however, the assasin still brought Sumin as Seju's weakness later ch76
   
   -> excluded

2. Seju wanted to test Sumin's feelings for her and their relationship once and for all
   (also confusing view.. because Sumin always dated, always broke up and always ran back in circles)
   Actually, Nammi's plan was much more effective in this regard.
   -> excluded

So what are your reasonings for Seju's plan?

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she told me: I'm marking my territory <- did she refer to me? XD

No, she meant Seju, lol, she's her territory, not your territory, lol.

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yoonie0104

^
oh wait.. are you who I think you are ???
....
I think my girlfriend is in the house XDD
(is it a payback ? I cut down to be freer so YOU go on dynasty and be busy) ??

LOL, a couple in the house, LOL. Should be funnnnnn xDDDDDDDDDDDDD

btw, your gf appears to be kick-ass woman more than you, Nora, lol.

she is .. she is!! .. she is much calmer in reality, so I get to see this new side
she told me: I'm marking my territory <- did she refer to me? XD

for the record tho, Amy_85
there is a bet between me and yoonie, I find that Sumin will end up with Seju and she thinks that Sungji will end up with Sumin..

what's your bet ?

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Amy_85

didn't you think that Sungji is bisexual tho ??
something about that she skips boobs XDDD

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^
oh wait.. are you who I think you are ???
....
I think my girlfriend is in the house XDD
(is it a payback ? I cut down to be freer so YOU go on dynasty and be busy) ??

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sia ue

t seems we are not living in the same time zone. From here, I see that the dates we created our accounts are not the same; mine is 05 Feb 2016, while yours is 04 Feb 2017.

hehehe no, 2016 had 29 days of Feb, but 2017 only had 28
so exactly 365 days <- a year heheheh (so technical)

sia ue

what's even weirder is that I registered exactly one year after you.. and now I'm catching up with your number of posts XDDD

I do talk a lot when I thought I was anti-social reality check

It's weird that this thread gets quiet 6 days before the new chapter comes out.. it's normally like that one or 2 days before.

sia ue

Haha. xD And I would suggest not to read comments from Doctor if you couldn't stand seeing Seju being severely attacked level pro.

well, the Doctor is sick XDDD

sia ue

I've checked this Ken dude.. my God
I don't recommend eating/drinking while reading his comments XD

Anonymous__

Hello again, you are a very nice person.. I can see this clearly from your replies.

I do understand that you were not the one doing all the chapters, and I can tell by your style that this belongs to you or not.
however, I felt like giving you examples of how errors can change the meanings in this particular work (even if the errors are not yours).. to be honest, this manhwa is truly hard to translate, I get that, and that's why I found you brave. the official translator seem to have contact with Team Gaji (this is an advantage that you don't have).. which make your effort more admirable

To be honest, I wanted to keep using English Honourifics because I feel that many readers are not used to reading Korean Honourifics and more used to Japanese Honourifics instead.

please keep them, they are very informative of the tone and the feel.. specially last chapter.

Se-Ju also said "안 어울려." which can have multiple meanings, or atleast to me.
She didn't say any pronoun, which means it's upto how you read her tone. She could be saying "That scarf won't look good on Sung-Ji" or "You knitting scarves like that doesn't suit the image that you have". It's confusing to just say "It doesn't suit.", so I ended up translating it as Se-Ju saying it won't suit Su-Min.

yes, actually yoonie pointed that out to me earlier. I understand how hard it was for you to make those decisions.

To be honest, I read the criticisms and feel I needed to justify my errors rather than accept it sometimes, but I do understand that you don't really have hate for me and just try it accept it and learn from it.

I want to clarify a thing in here, Anonymous__, I truly apologies, I comment here in dynasty very frequently.. and I even tend to overanalyse things and engage in arguments, sometimes the other party would use a literal meaning of the word to counter my point.. which later results in making me indirectly attack the translation. I apologise again!

I just went back to check my comments, I was in fact insensitive towards your genuine work.. you may never know, one day before you know it, you will come up with a translation that picky person like me would say WOW.
So keep them coming, and please understand, if you make a mistake then you will learn from it, no one hates you as a person.

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